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I am a pretty good cook thus I would like to nominate myself minister of middle class caramel and pastry
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Mr. Apollo posted:Minister of Rural Economic Development. I know you lot hate us rurals but this is a little over the top.
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Nov 22, 2019 03:47
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I want to be the “Minister of Upper-Lower-Middle Class Types”
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Nov 22, 2019 04:20
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Dr. Stab posted:Minister for poo poo trudeau wants to sweep under the rug. It’s 2020 so gender equality is now outdated.
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Nov 22, 2019 04:26
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When monsef was given those positions after electoral reform I knew it was the libs giving those issues a massive gently caress you
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Nov 22, 2019 04:30
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Arivia posted:It’s 2020 so gender equality is now outdated. I mean more doing anything for it except having more women ministers.
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Nov 22, 2019 04:39
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https://twitter.com/wabkinew/status/1197724509278597120?s=21 I too hope those police officers are safe after unloading 9 bullets into another human being
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Nov 22, 2019 05:00
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Wait... Was "the shooting" literally the police shooting someone?
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Nov 22, 2019 05:02
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infernal machines posted:Wait... Yes, the man had a knife and had just robbed a 7-11
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Nov 22, 2019 05:03
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DariusLikewise posted:https://twitter.com/wabkinew/status/1197724509278597120?s=21 that is not the kind of response I want from an indigenous ndp leader, gently caress
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Nov 22, 2019 05:03
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DariusLikewise posted:Yes, the man had a knife and had just robbed a 7-11 Cool cool. I always love it when the police de-escalate by filling the suspect full of lead. Good work lads. Also, WTF Wab?
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Nov 22, 2019 05:05
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infernal machines posted:Wait... Armed robber got shot when they were trying to leave the store https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/drop-the-knife-police-shoot-armed-suspect-after-attempted-robbery-1.4697065
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Nov 22, 2019 05:29
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Drunks are waaay worse than methheads ime
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Nov 22, 2019 06:21
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infernal machines posted:Cool cool. He was walking up to an officer with a machete and was winding up to chop his head off.
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Nov 22, 2019 06:37
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Sure, of course he was. Is there video of the interaction? Because IDK about there, but here in TO police have a habit of ventilating suspects, and then telling tales about the incident that don't exactly match the footage, or each other. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Nov 22, 2019 06:39
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infernal machines posted:Sure, of course he was. Like EJ said there's a couple videos out there from multiple angles. If you don't want to watch someone getting lit up and still don't believe it though, here are the stills right before any shots were fired. http://i.imgur.com/moQ6A0P.png http://i.imgur.com/dJJQpGs.png http://i.imgur.com/HWWQapO.png http://i.imgur.com/mHlmOIu.png
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Nov 22, 2019 06:49
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Okay, fair enough.
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Nov 22, 2019 06:51
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Yeah, the guy came charging at the cops with his machete.
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Nov 22, 2019 07:08
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Huh. Government isn't interfering in the CN strike action. ...So far.
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JohnnyCanuck posted:Huh. Government isn't interfering in the CN strike action. loving over workers is easy, bringing back Parliament two weeks before they intended to, not so much.
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DynamicSloth posted:loving over workers is easy, bringing back Parliament two weeks before they intended to, not so much. Once the propane shortage start really getting felt and people start bitching at the right places, it will get "resolved" by the Govt.
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They had the minister of middle class prosperity on the CBC radio this morning and it was no very reassuring.Arivia posted:that is not the kind of response I want from an indigenous ndp leader, gently caress I don't trust marxist when they say stuff like ID Politics is fake because I assume bad faith, but ID Politics isn't super legitimate and doesn't award people who fall into marginal groups special knowledge that make them always good at analysis of structural problems, public speaking, politics, etc. Believing blindly, or even using as a guideline that marginalized people will know and respond better, can lead to disappointment and risks producing weird hierarchies. We should trust what marginalized people say, give marginalized people platforms to say it, genuinely listen to marginalized people, and strive at all times not to reproduce inequalities in coming up with socially just policies based on this information and participation. But marginalized people don't have an existence that inherently lets them see the truth all the time or express it, and can fall into supporting patterns that reproduce the status quo. Also a comment on his language: 'It sucks when bullets suddenly penetrate the body like that in public places with no apparent causes!' Toalpaz fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Capital punishment is not legal in Canada and the Winnipeg cops are not judge and jury The cops rolled up to the store guns already out of holsters and immediately pointed and yelled at the guy with the machete as soon as he came out store with no attempt at de-escalation. He didn't so much "charge" as he walked towards an officer with the knife up and the cops fired three times, he staggered and started to fall and six more bullets were fired. Do not allow police discharging a weapon in any situation to escape scrutiny, everything should be analyzed and reviewed to ensure that they never need to shoot anyone.
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DariusLikewise posted:Capital punishment is not legal in Canada and the Winnipeg cops are not judge and jury That's when you die.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:24
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Vintersorg posted:That's when you die. It never should have gotten to the point and the police are at fault
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Nov 22, 2019 16:28
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DariusLikewise posted:It never should have gotten to the point and the police are at fault What should they have done, in your eyes?
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Nov 22, 2019 16:31
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DariusLikewise posted:It never should have gotten to the point and the police are at fault I kinda feel like the guy robbing the store with the machete has to have some of the blame here.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:45
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listen if you can't stop a guy with a knife without fatally shooting him while several other cops also fatally shoot him, you should not be a cop if you are that afraid of the knife man then perhaps you should not have chosen a career where it is your job to deal with knife men
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TheCenturion posted:What should they have done, in your eyes? They could have used any of the de-escalation training they get to try and well, de-escalate the situation. The extra 6 shots fired after the guy started going down were incredibly excessive.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:47
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vincentpricesboner posted:I kinda feel like the guy robbing the store with the machete has to have some of the blame here. I didn't realized armed robbery carries a sentence of death
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Nov 22, 2019 16:48
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Yeah I know that the proliferation of 'less lethal' options like tasers masks real questions we should be asking about police use of force, but also they should have maybe tried that before killing the guy too.
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Toalpaz posted:Yeah I know that the proliferation of 'less lethal' options like tasers masks real questions we should be asking about police use of force, but also they should have maybe tried that before killing the guy too. I'm not sure what winnipeg police is like but I know Toronto used to only give the tasers to sargents, giving the regular joe schmoe cops less options. DariusLikewise posted:I didn't realized armed robbery carries a sentence of death Re-read my post. I'm not advocating for the death penalty for armed robbery, thats crazy. But you can't say the person who just robbed the store with a machete is blameless
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vincentpricesboner posted:I'm not sure what winnipeg police is like but I know Toronto used to only give the tasers to sargents, giving the regular joe schmoe cops less options. I never said the guy was blameless, I said that there was several different actions that the police could have taken before drawing weapons and yelling that could have de-escalated the situation and resulted in no weapons being fired at all.
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vincentpricesboner posted:I'm not sure what winnipeg police is like but I know Toronto used to only give the tasers to sargents, giving the regular joe schmoe cops less options. Nobody said he was blameless. You're creating a false dichotomy. Police being at fault in wrongful killing soneone doesn't mean that the guy they killed was perfectly innocent.
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vincentpricesboner posted:I'm not sure what winnipeg police is like but I know Toronto used to only give the tasers to sargents, giving the regular joe schmoe cops less options. I don't think the cops really need people defending them, and there should be serious consequences for killing people. I think that the dead person has shouldered enough blame at this point and it's time to mete out blame among the living.
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Toalpaz posted:I don't think the cops really need people defending them, and there should be serious consequences for killing people. I think that the dead person has shouldered enough blame at this point and it's time to mete out blame among the living. Of course there should be serious consequences for killing people. We both agree on that. There is going to be in investigation into this shooting and if police are responsible they should be punished severely. I don't think this is that case but we will see. The man deciding to rob a store with a machete set this all in motion. He put the staff in incredible risk and then himself and the public when he left the store.
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There won't be consequences because of the way the IIU is structured in Manitoba but that's a separate issue
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DariusLikewise posted:They could have used any of the de-escalation training they get to try and well, de-escalate the situation. The extra 6 shots fired after the guy started going down were incredibly excessive. This is what got James Forcillo convicted of attempted murder. Not that he shot Sammy Yatim, but that he shot him excessively, with a second volley after he was incapacitated.
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Cool and normal that the police spokesman is admonishing the public for filming police officers.
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