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If my priority is immersive gaming and my couch is pretty close to the TV which makes more sense: 55-inch QLED/OLED 65-inch LED/LCD it's the first one isn't it? gently caress, they are so much more money
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Well keep in mind QLED is not OLED it's just samsung trying to make people think their LED/LCD screens are special. Also yes OLED is incredible but I went with a 65" sony x900f (LED/LCD/etc) last year 'cause I wanted bigger and I'm still really liking it.
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Nov 22, 2019 15:56
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MagusDraco posted:Well keep in mind QLED is not OLED it's just samsung trying to make people think their LED/LCD screens are special. Ah that's good to know. There's actually a 65-inch Samsung QLED that would be feasible for me, but now I have this stupid idea in my head that only OLED will do.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:03
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fuf posted:Ah that's good to know. 65" OLED is the best option.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:19
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oh ok cool i'll just go bankrupt brb
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Nov 22, 2019 16:28
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fuf posted:oh ok cool i'll just go bankrupt brb Well I mean... what's your budget then?
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Nov 22, 2019 16:32
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BonoMan posted:Well I mean... what's your budget then? https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-Electro...LE&sr=1-21&th=1 This is what I'm currently trying to justify to myself (£1100). And even that is like insane for me.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:46
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It appears LG is making hospitality versions of its OLED sets, so that's interesting.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:49
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Is there another sweet spot for price to performance above the TCL/Hisense price point? EDIT: fuf is in the UK, so the question doesn't really work for them, but I'm curious. Unless something else pops up, probably taking the plunge on the 65" TCL 6-series at Costco on thanksgiving. $600 feels like a steal.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:56
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TheWevel posted:It appears LG is making hospitality versions of its OLED sets, so that's interesting. Not OLED, but the hotel I stayed at this week has a pretty nice 4k LG set-up in the room complete with Chromecast support. No joke, there was a literal 2nd gen Chromecast plugged into the service box behind the TV. There was some portal registration stuff with a code on the screen that did the network trickary to make it visible to that device only. Only downside was a complete lockout of picture menus and Trumotion was turned on at a moderately high level so it was hard to watch I don't just mean from the motion smoothing perspective either. LGs Trumotion is garbage and causes a ton of nasty artifacts, especially on animation.
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Nov 22, 2019 16:58
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fuf posted:https://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-Electro...LE&sr=1-21&th=1 Then don’t buy it?
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Nov 22, 2019 17:07
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Dogen posted:Then don’t buy it? thanks for the useless reply you fuckin killjoy. I'm trying to get excited about a new tv over here!
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Nov 22, 2019 17:19
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Guide to buying affordable OLED in UK: 1. Scrap Brexit 2. Wait 3. Economy now isn't a cesspool and things are back to being not priced at 1 pound = 1 dollar.
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Nov 22, 2019 17:34
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fuf posted:thanks for the useless reply you fuckin killjoy. I'm trying to get excited about a new tv over here! Enjoy bankruptcy, I guess?
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Nov 22, 2019 17:57
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EL BROMANCE posted:Guide to buying affordable OLED in UK: finally some advice I can act on
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Nov 22, 2019 18:16
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Yeah it's a crummy situation because there's gently caress all regular people can do. When I was in the UK, TV buying was always a more expensive art than some other places, and lack of choice didn't help. It's only gotten so much worse in the last few years from what I can see. I'm constantly astounded when I see things like digital store purchases being practically the same in terms of cost with a different symbol in front. And we always used to moan before it was this bad!
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Nov 22, 2019 18:37
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Anyone have the scoop on lower-end Samsung units? I've got one of those workplace EPP sites that I can browse and I can pick up a 65" Samsung NU6900 (full model UN65NU6900F) for $480. (I guess that's normal Best Buy price, but I get some other 'perks' for buying it through the site.) I'm not a TV snob or anything, 2 of my 3 current TV's work like poo poo (Vizio TV's with the world's least reliable chromecast built in) so I'm just really wanting something that works and isn't going to break the bank. Otherwise, it looks like Costco seems like it's shaping up to have some real good BF deals, just by skirting through the last few pages of the thread... Macichne Leainig fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Nov 22, 2019 21:15
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Is this NOT the 6 series if I want to hook my pc up? I dont currently game with a 244 hz monitor or higher than 60 fps if that matters. Its $479 right now Samsung 65" Class - 6 Series - 4K UHD LED LCD TV Item 9656950 Model UN65NU6950FXZA Edit lol sorry just saw the post above mine
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Nov 22, 2019 22:42
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I ended up just stopping at best buy and picking up the 55" LG UM7300PUA. 55" is about perfect for where we wanted the TV (in the bedroom) and so far I really like the picture quality, sound quality and the remote being decent was a good surprise. I'll have to save up for a nice OLED to replace the aging Vizio E480i-B2 in the front room...
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Nov 23, 2019 16:36
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Other than HLG and Variable Refreshrate/HDMI 2.1, is there anything bleeding edge cool on the horizon? Or is that a CES question.
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FilthyImp posted:Other than HLG and Variable Refreshrate/HDMI 2.1, is there anything bleeding edge cool on the horizon? CES will definitely reveal what the next year looks like. I'd say that VRR/HDMI 2.1 is the big thing I expect (hope) to see just about every manufacturer embrace this year. We'll probably see some more micro LED and 8K stuff, but I expect this will still be crazy expensive for a few years and may never really hit the mainstream given the inherent issues with generating content. I know Samsung is sinking money into OLED TV production, but I'm not sure we can expect to see any actual products next year? Hisense had that interesting prototype last year which used two LCD screens to generate additional contrast. That definitely seems like something that could hit the mainstream fairly readily from multiple makers, but I'm not sure if they had a patent.
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Nov 23, 2019 18:07
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HDMI 2.1 becoming more mainstream with more of the optional features like VRR being supported is probably what to expect. 2020 is also the year of the next Xbox and PlayStation so it's the last CES we get before their release, so a lot of companies are gonna ship with VRR if they want in on that. 60+ refresh rate is the dream now that we might see VRR go mainstream. ufarn fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Nov 23, 2019 |
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Nov 23, 2019 18:19
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BeastOfExmoor posted:
No way would they license that out. I'm sure they have a patent on it. It was a nice "simple" idea (and they even upgraded the b&w panel to 4K from the original 1080p concept). I imagine there are several issues, namely pushing light through two panels and probably a ton of QA issues with joining the two panels. I could be wrong though.
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Nov 23, 2019 18:35
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MicroLED seems like the holy grail but it will probably be a few years before 4K displays are commercially viable which will also line up with affordable 8K OLEDs.
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Nov 23, 2019 18:42
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ufarn posted:HDMI 2.1 becoming more mainstream with more of the optional features like VRR being supported is probably what to expect. 2020 is also the year of the next Xbox and PlayStation so it's the last CES we get before their release, so a lot of companies are gonna ship with VRR if they want in on that. So hold off on the 2.0 6 series for now if I ever want to use my pc and tv in the future?
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Nov 23, 2019 18:45
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You people have made me realize that my "amoled" display on my galaxy s7 active has some burn in on it that is starting to get visible in various screens.
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Nov 23, 2019 18:52
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:So hold off on the 2.0 6 series for now if I ever want to use my pc and tv in the future? We only just figured out how to do HDR decently, especially with Game Mode.
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At some point (hopefully this upcoming year) LG is going to have a next generation panel. Since the 6 series, the panels have only been a small evolution year over year and not a real generational change. Most of the changes have only been subtle design changes and software tweaks. The things that we really want to see out of a next generation LG panel are better near black performance and higher overall brightness so highlights won't clip as much.
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Nov 23, 2019 19:42
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American McGay posted:MicroLED seems like the holy grail but it will probably be a few years before 4K displays are commercially viable which will also line up with affordable 8K OLEDs. I'm cautiously optimistic at best about any sort of self-emitting LED technology. Once we get to a point where panel sizes can be sane for them, there's probably still other factors to consider. Pure blacks are one benefit of OLED, but something that seems easily forgotten is their nearly instantaneous response time and superb viewing angles. These are not characteristics that are often associated with typical LED panels. Like, you can add "infinite contrast" as a feature to IPS, VA, or TN panels and there would still be major reasons to prefer an OLED over them.
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The Big Bad Worf posted:I'm cautiously optimistic at best about any sort of self-emitting LED technology. Once we get to a point where panel sizes can be sane for them, there's probably still other factors to consider. But all the problems you mention are generally because of the LCD panel correct? MicroLED is having the LED *be* the actual pixel instead of just a backlight thus eliminating the LCD portion of the panel? Unless I'm just misunderstanding MicroLED.
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The Big Bad Worf posted:I'm cautiously optimistic at best about any sort of self-emitting LED technology. Once we get to a point where panel sizes can be sane for them, there's probably still other factors to consider. This is kind of my gut feeling as well. OLED is here now, and relatively affordable. By the time microLED gets to that point OLED will only by better and cheaper. For very large to huge displays I think a self-emitting LED will definitely be the best option and an easy sell to replace things like LCD video walls and projectors. Both those technologies have incredible downsides and I cannot wait to see them vanish into rear view mirror.
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Not sure if this is the best thread but I am looking for help for watching movies. I have a giant collection of 500 or so movies on a external HDD, and am looking at the best (and hopefully inexpensive) solution for watching them on a dumb tv. I have tried - PLEX server, which didn't work well for me since my server desktop computer is normally off and on a different floor than my TV. - Android box (100$ on amazon) which has terrible menus, slow, stutters on many movies, glitchy Oddly enough I used to have a samsung LCD from like 2012 that played it all flawlessly from its usb drive but I no longer have that TV. I am considering the Nvidia shield, but its a big expensive for this, or a better android box as well. Am I missing something obvious? PS4 or Xbox? Maybe there is a Roku or similiar that supports USB HDDs?
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Nov 24, 2019 16:20
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If you do the shield option, you can run plex server on that and open up a ton more options (ie can get cheap streaming sticks for other TVs in the house, watch on phone etc).
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Update on the deal I posted earlier, the 55" has dropped in price LG B9 bundle: 55" $1197 shipped with code, 65" $1797 quote:You'll also get a Deco Gear 31" soundbar, a flat wall mount, a 6-outlet surge protector, and a wireless keyboard smart remote with touchpad mouse.
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Really pleased with the Vizio PX65 so far. Way better panel than the TCL I had before. When local dimming is set at low, I don’t notice any of the weird flashing that happens between light and dark scenes when they go back and forth. Great value for 999, and with the 5 year Costco deal, no worries.
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Recently got an Xbone and am thinking about jumping up to a 4K hdr display. I have a pretty modest home theater setup, I mostly play games and watch movies, and the room it’s in is usually decently lit and has I’d say medium wide viewing angles. Tv is in the corner next to a front window facing roughly 45 degrees out to a couch and two chairs. Currently have a vizio from ~2016 that’s served me well, so I don’t think I’m super picky about most of the concerns. Mostly gaming and movies are what I care about, plus the hdr sound cool to me. Not really interested in high refresh rates. Size about 50-55”, budget would be $500 at the very maximum, preferably decently under that. Is there any models I could be in the lookout for during holiday sales? Also I don’t care about smart stuff, I have a million ways to get Netflix in the tv.
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Nov 25, 2019 07:13
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I caved and got the 55" C9. On rtings.com they show the difference that calibration makes. Do people actually calibrate their TV for home use?
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Nov 25, 2019 10:52
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lordfrikk posted:I caved and got the 55" C9. On rtings.com they show the difference that calibration makes. Do people actually calibrate their TV for home use? For a given reading of "calibrate". By all means note down RTings' recommend settings for the Picture menu and mirror them on your TV. You don't need to call a professional and have them go hog wild with a colorimeter, probably.
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Nov 25, 2019 13:59
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I have a B7 and I just mirrored recommended settings and it's perfect.
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BonoMan posted:But all the problems you mention are generally because of the LCD panel correct? MicroLED is having the LED *be* the actual pixel instead of just a backlight thus eliminating the LCD portion of the panel? No, you are correct. Current "LED" TVs have an LED backlight, as apposed to a cold cathode or similar, just to show how out of date calling an LCD panel LED is today. I don't think microLED panels will hit LCD prices, or even OLED prices any time soon. Each bit of panel seems to need a micro controller etc. so we'll see how that shakes out. I think the big advantage of LCD is the panel takes very low amounts of power to to it's twisting to turn the pixels on and off, while the backlight LEDs take higher amounts of power but only fairly large blocks of them turn on and off for the full array backlight effects. A microLED TV is basically a full array backlight, except for every pixel you have 3 colored backlights and no LCD panel in front of them, if you wanted to think about it that way to put them in perspective of current TV technologies.
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