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BobHoward posted:vsync works fine on the best unix desktop, macOS, which has had a tearing-free compositing window server since march 24 2001 
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is it free of tearing if it’s unusable to begin with?
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Yes, that's also the windows update approach
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i have never gotten fullscreen firefox video to work on linux with opengl enabled and no tearing I can watch full screen hardware accelerated video in chromium on gnome 3.34 with arch Linux
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feedmegin posted:Have u heard about what double buffering is 
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can linux use variable refresh rate with a compatible display to side step vsync all together?
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only on amd hardware, probably
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Perplx posted:can linux use variable refresh rate with a compatible display to side step vsync all together? the nvidia proprietary driver supports this i've never tried it because i don't have a compatible monitor
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abigserve posted:Some rear end in a top hat told me that "OSX is made for developers" next time, respond with some airquotes developers??? more like ~*DeVoLopErz*~
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Poopernickel posted:next time, respond with some airquotes lol wow serious ownage
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how can they even develop when their disk is fully encrypted, anyway. hmm? 
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pram posted:how can they even develop when their disk is fully encrypted, anyway. hmm? now you're getting it
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It’s not encrypted, that’s just what PHP and node.js looks like.
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Newer versions of polkit rely on mozjs as a dependency. What the gently caress. 
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Athas posted:I updated my work macOS yesterday and it took a ridiculous amount of time (maybe 45 minutes after downloading?), far more than when I update my NixOS desktop (superior Unix). What's it actually doing after all the files have been downloaded and the "updating" progress bar starts? When updating a Linux system, the vast majority of the time is spent actually downloading the new files (or recompiling), which makes more sense to me. there’s a system for safe installing updates so that a failure partway through can be rolled back. it predates apfs, and i don’t think they’ve reimplemented it on top of apfs snapshots yet, so it’s almost certainly doing all kinds of extra work which won’t be necessary in the future i remember macOS updates in the oughts (which were as unsafe as your typical linux distro update is to this day) being as fast as you want them to be
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ratbert90 posted:Newer versions of polkit rely on mozjs as a dependency. What the gently caress. What do you want to see instead, v8
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Rufus Ping posted:What do you want to see instead, v8 json-glib, json-c, json-c++, json for modern c++ Take your pick.
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ratbert90 posted:json-glib, json-c, json-c++, json for modern c++ Polkit rules are actual executable js not json, can those libraries do that?
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Rufus Ping posted:Polkit rules are actual executable js not json, can those libraries do that? In that case they should use protobufs
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again, polkit policies aren't declarative, they're executable scripts that approve or reject an action
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pseudorandom name posted:again, polkit policies aren't declarative, they're executable scripts that approve or reject an action I'm mainly frustrated that mozjs seems to require a good 14+ patches to cross-compile, and many of the patches are ignored or outright rejected by upstream.
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i wrote a patchset forever ago to use duktape https://github.com/magcius/polkit/commit/951c354472ae14af34a6a034ff0f79376cd085ed
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Suspicious Dish posted:i wrote a patchset forever ago to use duktape https://github.com/magcius/polkit/commit/951c354472ae14af34a6a034ff0f79376cd085ed Oh hey, that was you on the gentoo forums wasn't it?
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ratbert90 posted:Oh hey, that was you on the gentoo forums wasn't it? whjat? i have never posted on the gentoo forums lol
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ratbert90 posted:Oh hey, that was you on the gentoo forums wasn't it? fuckin outed
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i used to post on the gentoo forums but i was not subtle about trolling it was in the era when the new fad was to remove pam from gentoo i am pretty sure a diligent yosposter could find my old account because my posting persona is larger than life
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i used to post on the gentoo forums but i was not subtle about trolling idk i think "pedantic rear end in a top hat who will never admit being wrong" might have some false positives on the gentoo forums
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Phobeste posted:idk i think "pedantic rear end in a top hat who will never admit being wrong" might have some false positives on the gentoo forums oh yes that was the source of the joy in "trolling" and by "trolling" i mean insisting that maybe pam is a useful feature i was demonized and also correct and also the source of much meta-moderation
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my posting persona is eternal and constipated i bought this av because it is furious, and obviously trying and failing to take a poo poo. nothing could sum up my posting better
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Phobeste posted:idk i think "pedantic rear end in a top hat who will never admit being wrong" might have some false positives on the gentoo forums but most of the gentoo forums posters are definitely not wearing a smoking jacket while posting thus cannot possibly be nbsd
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Nomnom Cookie posted:but most of the gentoo forums posters are definitely not wearing a smoking jacket while posting thus cannot possibly be nbsd i don't even own a smoking jacket but i do know men my age who do, because, 19th century cosplay, i guess?
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virtio, a set of standards for exposing hardware resources to guest virtual machines as various types of idealized pci devices, is quite well-standardized and well-supported these days well apparently hardware vendors are now looking at the virtio specifications and going "hmm..."
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slowly developing a fetish for bifurcated asses due to the relentless tearing of my pornographs
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Scud Hansen posted:slowly developing a fetish for bifurcated asses due to the relentless tearing of my pornographs 
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Sapozhnik posted:virtio, a set of standards for exposing hardware resources to guest virtual machines as various types of idealized pci devices, is quite well-standardized and well-supported these days VirtIO is cool enough that macOS has included drivers for a couple releases now and Mezzano only included VirtIO drivers for quite a while, though I guess now it runs on some bare hardware platforms too
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I think VirtIO is also the primary target device set for OpenVMS on x86-64 2020 will be the year of VMS on the hypervisor
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eschaton posted:VirtIO is cool enough that macOS has included drivers for a couple releases now what does macos need virtio support for?
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:what does macos need virtio support for?
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mystes posted:So they can run it in a VM even if they don't let anyone else? the license allows virtualization just, i wouldn't have guessed apple would be virtualizing things on linux, where virtio is useful for talking to the host. does the macos native virt stuff support virtio ?
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