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sexpig by night posted:it's amazing how we've memory holed the time when democrats actually had complete power and McConnel's only leverage would have been to cry like a bitch, and we just threw it away This seems to be a constant source of angst for the left and democrats in general, but for entirely the wrong reason. People assume that it was incompetence which prevented the democrats from accomplishing anything meaningful. They were too dumb to pass real healthcare reform. Too dumb to pass sensible gun control. Too dumb to fix the roads, schools, and financial institutions. Too dumb to tax the rich. This is all complete nonsense. They didn't change healthcare because they are funded by insurance companies. They didn't didn't pass gun control because they are being paid by arms dealers. They didn't fix the roads, schools, and financial institutions BECAUSE it would require taxing the rich. And guess what? They ARE the rich. Nancy Pelosi is worth over 100 million dollars. Schumer, Feinstein, every high ranking bastard with D too. It was no mistake, they didn't do poo poo on purpose.
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maniacripper posted:To me the thing is just haw far we've come from the Bush Sr era republican party in such a short time.  This is the moment for me. It was the moment that any pretense of civility or working together went out the window. The cries against the Bush administrations war mongering ultimately weren't met with excuses or downplaying. It was "gently caress you, we're ghouls. Try to stop us"
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fool_of_sound posted:Ya'll need to stop shitposting now. nah (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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What the gently caress man? Like I should no by now America has a very special cadre running the executive right now but these loving people are still something loving else man. It really is like a lovely reality show with cheesy betrayals, back stabs, "leverage" and gross incompetence. It really is just the most garbage dysfunctional bottom feeder people running the White House. Like it's just so out in the open is the part that get's me, like they all view it as just totally normal behavior.
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rkajdi posted:After the discussion that happened here early today (plus some talk with my therapist, thanks everyone here who told me to see one) I'm requesting a permaban. I get that we're all doomed and everything is going to go to poo poo, but I have to find a way to enjoy what few years are left in life until that happens. I can't do that with other sad brains here constantly revving up my stress levels. I had to call the suicide hotline for the second time regarding this thread in the last month, and that's just too much. log out too hard.txt
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rkajdi posted:After the discussion that happened here early today (plus some talk with my therapist, thanks everyone here who told me to see one) I'm requesting a permaban. I get that we're all doomed and everything is going to go to poo poo, but I have to find a way to enjoy what few years are left in life until that happens. I can't do that with other sad brains here constantly revving up my stress levels. I had to call the suicide hotline for the second time regarding this thread in the last month, and that's just too much. I requested one, wish you the best.
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rkajdi posted:After the discussion that happened here early today (plus some talk with my therapist, thanks everyone here who told me to see one) I'm requesting a permaban. I get that we're all doomed and everything is going to go to poo poo, but I have to find a way to enjoy what few years are left in life until that happens. I can't do that with other sad brains here constantly revving up my stress levels. I had to call the suicide hotline for the second time regarding this thread in the last month, and that's just too much. Edit: nevermind. Get help, tell your therapist if you're feeling the desire to self harm
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RBG dying makes an authoritarian revolution - like, suspending elections to "investigate fraud" type revolution, with the court ruling that "well we may not like it but it's within the powers of the executive branch" - much, much more likely. If you think that's paranoid speculation, recall that the Supreme Court ratified the theft of an election in 2000 that started us on the hellworld timeline that we're on now.
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Does RBG feel bad about any of this? That’s what we should really be wondering.
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Since I dealt with my depression, my outlook on life has improved markedly, and it has led me to things like volunteer work and political activism. So I'm not a doom and gloom person anymore. That being said: Trump winning in 2020 is the end of America as we know it. It means that we collectively don't give enough of a poo poo to stop Nazis by the simple act of getting up and voting. It means the populace as a whole is irredeemable. And it means violence will come. I don't think Trump can win again though
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terrorist ambulance posted:RBG dying makes an authoritarian revolution - like, suspending elections to "investigate fraud" type revolution, with the court ruling that "well we may not like it but it's within the powers of the executive branch" - much, much more likely. If you think that's paranoid speculation, recall that the Supreme Court ratified the theft of an election in 2000 that started us on the hellworld timeline that we're on now.
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Trump says he might veto legislation that aims to protect human rights in Hong Kong because bill could affect China trade talks washingtonpost.com/November 22, 2019 "President Trump suggested Friday that he might veto legislation designed to support pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong — despite its near-unanimous support in the House and Senate — to pave the way for a trade deal with China." U.N. Condemns U.S. for World’s Highest Rate of Children in Detention democracynow.org/Nov 19, 2019 'Manfred Nowak: “Of course, separating children, as was done by the Trump administration, from their parents — and even small children — at the Mexican-U.S. border is absolutely prohibited by the Convention on the Rights of the Child. I would call it inhuman treatment for both the parents and the children. And there are still quite a number of children that are separated from their parents and where neither the children know where their parents are nor the parents know where their children are.”' While you weren't looking, the trade war with China went off the rails businessinsider.com/Nov 17, 2019 "America's trade war with China has lost its way." [Imagine that. A trade war lost it's way.] What does female authority sound like? Marie Yovanovitch and Fiona Hill just showed us. washingtonpost.com/November 22, 2019 "The next day, Marie Yovanovitch took her turn at the witness table. Impressively credentialed and equally poised, the former Ukraine ambassador’s testimony prompted a standing ovation in the hearing room, but it didn’t prompt adoring comparisons to any deceased icons. Her voice did not, after all, sound like Walter Cronkite’s. Hers was the precise, measured tone of a polite 61-year-old woman. And we simply don’t have as many reference points for 61-year-old women who’ve been elevated to the status of most trusted voice in anything." 70% of millennials say they'd vote for a socialist axios.com/Oct 28, 2019 [Yep, a month old. Do you imagine it's swung back by now?] https://la.eater.com/2019/11/22/20978280/dennys-trump-supporters-video-fight-culver-city-twitter-news la.eater.com/Nov 22, 2019 Sunday Afternoon at Denny’s vimeo.com/2 days ago [Video referenced in the article above.] Hong Kong ablaze as protests intensify: 'We might as well go down fighting' christianpost.com/November 21, 2019 "The protests in Hong Kong continue to intensify, as hope wanes among natives, some of whom say they are afraid but might as well go down fighting. Recent reports indicate that children as young as 11 are now fueling the protests and violence between protesters and police is growing. According to The Wall Street Journal Friday, the protests of late have been some of the most bloody to date and schools have been driving Hong Kong's uprising against China's ruling party." The 11-Year-Old Dissident: Hong Kong’s Schoolchildren Fuel Protests wsj.com/Nov. 15, 2019 [Referenced from the above article.] Bolivia interim president announces peace talks amid renewed fury over deaths cnn.com/November 22, 2019 "Interim Bolivian President Jeanine Añez has agreed to meet with opposition groups Saturday to "bring peace to the country" after weeks of deadly political clashes."
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FlamingLiberal posted:No, that would not change anything since there are currently 5 awful Justices. It’s not suddenly going to be tanks in the street because of one additional bad Justice. It’s just going to make people’s lives shittier It's gonna be bad. Roberts is savvy enough to not upset the apple cart in obvious ways. If another Kavanaugh gets through, Roberts loses control. They will speed run through undoing every major liberal legislative victory
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FlamingLiberal posted:No, that would not change anything since there are currently 5 awful Justices. It’s not suddenly going to be tanks in the street because of one additional bad Justice. It’s just going to make people’s lives shittier The Republicans already have control, worst case is that it helps legitimize court packing The die was cast when Kennedy retired. I hope she hangs on and that Thomas gets hit by a car.
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oxsnard posted:Since I dealt with my depression, my outlook on life has improved markedly Aren't those the same thing.
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Also remember that in 2009 the tea party didn't exist yet, the GOP had elected Michael fuckin Steele at the chairperson of the RNC to "modernize" the GOP, and just a few years earlier George W Bush had signed into law a 40% raise in the minimum wage and a few years before that George W Bush and the GOP had expanded Medicare to include Medicare Part D. In retrospect that 3 month window in 2009 when the Democrats had 60 senators before Kennedy began to die was the last shot to accomplish major reform, but at the time no one really knew how bad things were going to get.
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Ague Proof posted:Aren't those the same thing. lol yes. I meant to imply that my outlook on the country as well
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In any sane sense, a laughingstock buffoon like Donald J Trump being allowed to nominate and confirm 2 Supreme Court justices is an absolute miscarriage. 3 is beyond comprehension. My family is going to hate me when I literally quit my job to binge magnesium citrate and soak McConnell’s burial plot in a deluge of my watery excrement. LeeMajors fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Nov 24, 2019 |
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Why does this thread always have the melodrama of a games thread that derailed into politics.
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I forgot Kennedy got replaced by a temporary D before Coakley dropped the biggest ball ever, but my point of no one knowing what was to come still stands.
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i am harry posted:Does RBG feel bad about any of this? That’s what we should really be wondering. Obviously she is Cthulhu, and the cause of all our problems. Readjust your foundations, because she's coming through the toilet as you poop. Or something.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:I forgot Kennedy got replaced by a temporary D before Coakley dropped the biggest ball ever, but my point of no one knowing what was to come still stands. I remember starry eyed think pieces that predicted the GOP would become the centrist party allowing the Dems to shift left into a real labor party LOL
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cr0y posted:Lol rudy is the deep state Is there a shallow state? Cause that would be cool to vote and/or sell coffee at that protest event.
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oxsnard posted:I remember starry eyed think pieces that predicted the GOP would become the centrist party allowing the Dems to shift left into a real labor party Just waiting for those *~demographic shifts~* that will make the GOP powerless!
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Previa_fun posted:Just waiting for those *~demographic shifts~* that will make the GOP powerless! This is unironically true, but foolish in retrospect to have assumed it happened with Obama's election
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oxsnard posted:This is unironically true, but foolish in retrospect to have assumed it happened with Obama's election I mean it was pretty stupid then too, and the demographics of fascism changing isn’t going to fix anything either
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Otteration posted:Is there a shallow state? Cause that would be cool to vote and/or sell coffee at that protest event. The shallow state would be the political appointees who get cycled out with each administration, so basically everyone at the top.
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haveblue posted:The shallow state would be the political appointees who get cycled out with each administration, so basically everyone at the top. I'm a gonna guess that Rudy didn't get a membership card then.
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rkajdi posted:After the discussion that happened here early today (plus some talk with my therapist, thanks everyone here who told me to see one) I'm requesting a permaban. I get that we're all doomed and everything is going to go to poo poo, but I have to find a way to enjoy what few years are left in life until that happens. I can't do that with other sad brains here constantly revving up my stress levels. I had to call the suicide hotline for the second time regarding this thread in the last month, and that's just too much. Just take all these sky is falling hyperbolic takes for what they are man, bullshit conjecture from people who have no idea what is going to happen. Alot of the folks in this thread push this poo poo and it is honest to God hysterics. Sexpig is a prime example.
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Peacoffee posted:I mean it was pretty stupid then too, and the demographics of fascism changing isn’t going to fix anything either "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.”
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Also remember that in 2009 the tea party didn't exist yet, the GOP had elected Michael fuckin Steele at the chairperson of the RNC to "modernize" the GOP, and just a few years earlier George W Bush had signed into law a 40% raise in the minimum wage and a few years before that George W Bush and the GOP had expanded Medicare to include Medicare Part D. And there was an economy in the midst of spiraling into a deep recession.
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There was every sign and still is, but even now people call it hysterical and others accuse people of degrading their mental health at the mention of it. People can now vote who weren’t alive when this really started rolling faster. Interestingly they are the ones more willing to face the horror.
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Previa_fun posted:Just waiting for those *~demographic shifts~* that will make the GOP powerless! They're still coming, but 2008 was a real dumb time to talk about them
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Previa_fun posted:Just waiting for those *~demographic shifts~* that will make the GOP powerless! Medicare for the elderly and increasingly good medicine means we are stuck with them for the next 20 years or so. At which point, Gen X will become the worst.
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i am harry posted:Does RBG feel bad about any of this? That’s what we should really be wondering. Probably too senile to care by now.
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BarbarianElephant posted:Medicare for the elderly and increasingly good medicine means we are stuck with them for the next 20 years or so. Gen X is too small to make a difference about anything.
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BarbarianElephant posted:Probably too senile to care by now. Do you have any basis for saying this or is it just straight from your rear end? I saw her in person pretty recently and she didn’t seem senile.
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BarbarianElephant posted:Medicare for the elderly and increasingly good medicine means we are stuck with them for the next 20 years or so. Leave 'um on the floe. Sounds progressive.
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