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Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




CelticPredator posted:

I love the way the man character runs like a goober. It’s endearing.

Finally a main character in Star Wars that white males can relate to.

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Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time

Argas posted:

Finally a main character in Star Wars that white males can relate to.

Yeah it's really lacked for those.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Argas posted:

Finally a main character in Star Wars that white males can relate to.

Also calls himself trash in the first level!!

gfarrell80
Aug 31, 2006

Bust Rodd posted:

I honestly do not see a difference in the way Rick talks down to Beth & Summer and the way Rick talks down to literally everything else in the universe

Well, he's called Summer a 'dumb bitch' and 'stupid bitch', and he kicked it up a notch in "The Old Man and the Seat" by calling a random grieving alien female a "loving twat" over nonsense bullshit.

Rick is an extreme bully, but so far he's been limiting the bullying to Jerry and Morty; I enjoy the show very much but there is a bit of toxic creep starting to filter in. I don't believe S1 & S2 Rick had this poo poo going on.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
It's a real shame they didn't make a more interesting character, but then I saw that it's an actual actors face and felt a bit bad.

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

gfarrell80 posted:

Well, he's called Summer a 'dumb bitch' and 'stupid bitch', and he kicked it up a notch in "The Old Man and the Seat" by calling a random grieving alien female a "loving twat" over nonsense bullshit.

Rick is an extreme bully, but so far he's been limiting the bullying to Jerry and Morty; I enjoy the show very much but there is a bit of toxic creep starting to filter in. I don't believe S1 & S2 Rick had this poo poo going on.

"We have women in the writers room now so we're allowed to have the protagonist say oval office"

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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That kids pretty good from the Gotham clips I’ve seen. He was a better Joker than Jered Leto was.

He’s on shameless which I haven’t watched.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

gfarrell80 posted:

Well, he's called Summer a 'dumb bitch' and 'stupid bitch', and he kicked it up a notch in "The Old Man and the Seat" by calling a random grieving alien female a "loving twat" over nonsense bullshit.

Rick is an extreme bully, but so far he's been limiting the bullying to Jerry and Morty; I enjoy the show very much but there is a bit of toxic creep starting to filter in. I don't believe S1 & S2 Rick had this poo poo going on.

Yeah, but Summer doesn't just take the abuse -- she fights back. I like her. :)

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
That funko figure is even more hilarious now that I realize it is intended to be the same face as the redhead from Shameless.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018


GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

prefect posted:

Yeah, but Summer doesn't just take the abuse -- she fights back. I like her. :)

I don’t think the show intentionally engages with this stuff, but it’s true at least summer seems to not have internalised the abuse like morty. There’s a real subtext about toxic masculinity with rick and I think it’s ok for a show to focus up on how men act towards other men but pretty much every family member is in some stage of an abusive relationship with rick so there’s always gonna be something to unpack with the way he interacts with Beth and summer from that angle, even if it’s not strictly intentional

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Sounds to me like the writers room for this show is pretty sexist, probably starting around season 3. That's the only explanation I can think of, the idea that Rick is just a jerk to everyone is obviously silly and should be dismissed out of hand.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

It's hard to say what the through-line is going to be for this season after just two episodes, but Rick is making a lot of enemies.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

ashpanash posted:

It's hard to say what the through-line is going to be for this season after just two episodes, but Rick is making a lot of enemies.

A new mortal enemy came into being almost every episode of season 3, and the joke may just be we never see them again.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm not sure if I have to be clear about this but I meant that Rick is being deliberately depicted as having misogynistic traits.

It dovetails well with Rick ultimately being Boomer as all living hell, with his magical powers allowing him to live out his fantasies with no tangible consequences. (Consequences to his relationships on the other hand...)

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 205 days!

counterfeitsaint posted:

Sounds to me like the writers room for this show is pretty sexist, probably starting around season 3. That's the only explanation I can think of, the idea that Rick is just a jerk to everyone is obviously silly and should be dismissed out of hand.

I mean, it's not impossible for the writer's room to have become sexist right at the same time as women were added to it. Maybe they decided to double the size of the writing team by adding four women who hate other women, I guess.

That was also when the show became really critical of Rick being abusive to everyone in his life.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
Or maybe women can write gendered slurs without being part of the patriarchy

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
I'm going to call that they are building up to something. One of the things you'd hear from fascist Morty type fans yelling "no meta commentary just have fun" is incel slurs lobbed at the women in the writers room

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

Bust Rodd posted:

Or maybe women can write gendered slurs without being part of the patriarchy

Sorry, everyone is part of the patriarchy :negative:

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

BizarroAzrael posted:

A new mortal enemy came into being almost every episode of season 3, and the joke may just be we never see them again.

"Morty, twenty people try to kill me every week. I end up getting high with half of 'em. I mean, check it out, Gear Head's here."

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
Anti-booby suits.

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
Rick is an epic level troll.

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
So this is the inevitable AI turns evil episode.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I mean, seems pretty plausible that women can be more confident in exploring the aspects of Rick's toxicity that involve his treatment of women than a writer's room full of men might be. It's a theme that a lot of men want to stay away from because they aren't confident in doing it right or tastefully, while for women it's just working in the poo poo they deal with every day.

The thing about Rick is that on some level he thinks he's 'above' most human flaws when he really, REALLY isn't. At least Bojack Horseman can admit he's a selfish coward with an addictive personality and next to no self-control.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

I'm glad Mr. Poopybutthole is back not as an end joke.

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
drat they just took a poo poo on Elon Musk.

GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005

beauty by stroll
Holy gently caress, Elon lmao

Shitenshi
Mar 12, 2013
So are they gonna randomly bail to another dimension with the earth this hosed up?

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Elon Musk and Justin Roiland bonded over trying to bust their worker's unions.

Jonas Albrecht fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Nov 25, 2019

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please
That episode was amazing. It highlights how dependent he is on Morty and that he is incapable of growth from the last episode.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I know this was a parody of heist movies, but I was thinking of Predator this whole time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txuWGoZF3ew

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
This episode was emotionally devastating. Really wild writing here.

TerminalRaptor
Nov 6, 2012

Mostly Harmless
The real heist was that they stole our attention.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Had me grinning the whole time

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

it's in the mighty hands of steel
Fun Shoe
I feel like they glazed over a lot of the plot points just for the sake of being mysterious enough so that people would have to guess how the plot really progressed.

Honestly, I think this episode needed some revealing flashbacks.

Now, can we please talk about divorce and sexual harassment for 3 more pages? I need at least 20 posts about the deep meanings of vanity cards.

Garfu
Mar 6, 2008

Much like buttholes, families are meant to be tight.
Hey did you guys know Dan Harmon was the voice of Heistotron and Elon Tusk??

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

So it seems the throughline this season is about Beth

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Who did Elon Musk voice?

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE
Mar 31, 2010


General Dog posted:

Who did Elon Musk voice?

Elon Musk

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Bust Rodd posted:

Or maybe women can write gendered slurs without being part of the patriarchy
You don't understand how patriarchy works.

And that episode was a giant bummer and I'm tired of watching cynicism win out because that's just every day of everybody's life now, so if this doesn't culminate with some plot about how our Rick created evil Morty and is on track to do it again or something, this is gonna' be my least favorite episode ever.

Last season ended with the show rightly siding against Rick's worst impulses and then we yadda yaddad past that development with one line of dialog in the premiere when it would've been way more interesting to explore it and now we're just playing them for laughs again and if people don't grow or change, why am I watching this? People being cruel just because "lol cruelty" isn't funny anymore. Particularly not when it's an old white bigoted rear end in a top hat who thinks he's too smart for anything he thinks to be wrong.

How do you watch videos of your fans torturing McDonald's employees and eating McNugget sauce off of the dirty ground and not learn that maybe you're cultivating the wrong audience?

Please be going somewhere with this, but even if they are, this is a bad idea.

Garfu posted:

Hey did you guys know Dan Harmon was the voice of Heistotron and Elon Tusk??
The first credit was actual Elon Musk. Can you do that, wrt union rules and lawsuits?

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ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

General Dog posted:

Who did Elon Musk voice?

We all did, Morty. We all did.

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