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Duck and Cover posted:It's simply about having more realistic characters sounds like the USSR. oh you don't like painting in the socialist-realism style? i'm afraid your government art contract is expired. no comrade, of course you are not allowed to sell your art to anyone except the government criticizing pop culture is fine and all as a way to measure society, it's when people start trying to reverse engineer the criticism as some form of social engineering that it goes off the rails. ok yeah, lots of boobs in video games might be some kind of misogynistic reflection of our society. but it doesn't follow that we can make society less misogynistic by changing the video games. Rutibex fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Nov 24, 2019 |
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veni veni veni posted:Tiddy games, but make all of the tits sad and floppy. Nonono you made a different point that I like. How about games have large, nude tits in them, at all times, but they're kind of gross. We can't afford to be ideologically "pure" in times like these. We must be pragmatic and offer compromise. So I think tits for the people who WANT them, BUT the tits are gross and no one will get sexually attracted to them for the people who don't want sexualized games. Some posters out there are promising this idea of beautiful tits for all, saying "Look at Europe" or "Japan has done this for years!". But it's not possible in a country like the United States. Goddamnit, we're different!
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DildenAnders posted:Nonono you made a different point that I like. How about games have large, nude tits in them, at all times, but they're kind of gross. We can't afford to be ideologically "pure" in times like these. We must be pragmatic and offer compromise. So I think tits for the people who WANT them, BUT the tits are gross and no one will get sexually attracted to them for the people who don't want sexualized games. Some posters out there are promising this idea of beautiful tits for all, saying "Look at Europe" or "Japan has done this for years!". But it's not possible in a country like the United States. Goddamnit, we're different! What in tarnation.
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abigserve posted:a bit of sexualization and stuff like that in video games, or any media, is fine. But there's a difference between "there's a female love interest and she is pretty hot and sometimes dresses provocatively" and "this woman is naked because she is charged by the sun". Quiet's character needing to absorb energy from the sun wasn't really an issue, it was all of the sexualized goofy poo poo Quiet did and her gratuitous almost-rape scene. you'd think that someone who needs to absorb the sun's rays through her skin wouldn't have any use for torn stockings but that's Kojima for you
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Nov 24, 2019 20:56
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so have we reached the point of synthesis where we acknowledge that kojima's stupid wank fodder wouldn't be as much of an issue if more women held the reins of game development so that they could make their own stupid wank fodder, or just games that are less testosterone fueled in general
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Nov 24, 2019 21:14
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basically just have sexy time stuff for everyone
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Nov 24, 2019 21:17
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olives black posted:so have we reached the point of synthesis where we acknowledge that kojima's stupid wank fodder wouldn't be as much of an issue if more women held the reins of game development so that they could make their own stupid wank fodder, or just games that are less testosterone fueled in general women can make all the video games they want. you can publish Unity games for free. mobile app stores and Steam don't require anyone to be backed by a publisher.
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Nov 24, 2019 21:37
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Ban Kojima from making video games
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Nov 24, 2019 21:41
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Rutibex posted:women can make all the video games they want. you can publish Unity games for free. mobile app stores and Steam don't require anyone to be backed by a publisher. I am sure women are highly motivated to join the industry considering how many role models women game designers there are and considering the large amount of games made with a woman perspective currently on the market!
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Nov 24, 2019 21:51
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If movies are any indication, games would actually probably have more tits in them if more women got involved in game development.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:02
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I really enjoyed Prey 2006. The Art Bell broadcasts were pretty cool as you progress through the game.
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StarMinstrel posted:I am sure women are highly motivated to join the industry considering how many role models women game designers there are and considering the large amount of games made with a woman perspective currently on the market! there are thousands of games available for purchase from a womans perspective. there is games for every niche in existence. the Steam library has over 30,000 games here is the "female protagonist" category on Steam. there are 18 pages of games: https://store.steampowered.com/tags/ro/Female+Protagonist#p=0&tab=TopSellers
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Nov 24, 2019 22:09
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Just note that the 'female protagonist' tag has a heck of a lot of scantily clad woman gyrating in 3rd person. Tomb raider, Bayonetta, Nier, etc. Its not a number that I'd use in a positive way. edit: 3 Tomb raiders entries in the top 7 of that link.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:11
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StarMinstrel posted:I am sure women are highly motivated to join the industry considering how many role models women game designers there are and considering the large amount of games made with a woman perspective currently on the market! I know you're being ironic but everything you wrote is true, it's not 2009 anymore.
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StarMinstrel posted:I am sure women are highly motivated to join the industry considering how many role models women game designers there are and considering the large amount of games made with a woman perspective currently on the market! That's kind of akin to the naturalistic fallacy, saying that "x group of people don't want to do a thing because x group of people doesn't do a thing". It also distracts from the broader and more primary problem, that girls are socialized to not have praxis. An imbalance in floppy tit physics compared to floppy cock physics in games is pretty trivial compared to gender imbalances in science and public policy, the cause is the same in both and it's not the particular industry, vocation or discipline.
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Serephina posted:Just note that the 'female protagonist' tag has a heck of a lot of scantily clad woman gyrating in 3rd person. Tomb raider, Bayonetta, Nier, etc. laura croft is a bad-rear end action hero. if shes not a good enough role model than i don't know what you are even after
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Nov 24, 2019 22:16
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If you like videogames, you're not allowed to have a sexuality imo
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Rutibex posted:laura croft is a bad-rear end action hero. if shes not a good enough role model than i don't know what you are even after You're kidding right? She's also super sexualized, has been forever. I've seen literal pin-up posters of her in college guy's bedrooms. She's undeniably badass, but is hardly what I'd call a strong case for feminism in the industry.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:20
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Seems like a good time to bring back the Is Bayonetta Feminist discussion, I just know we're gonna settle it this time.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:24
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Bayonetta is a poo game for doodieheads. Dunno about feminism.
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Duck and Cover posted:I'm pretty sure no one here thinks that. It's simply about having more realistic characters instead of perpetuating the idea women exist for men's desires all (most of) the time every time. Of course this simple idea has been distorted to mean I'm for censorship/against breasts. All so you can have your softcore porn in your video games. Nudity isn't even generally the issue, it's the poo poo like the Everquest cover art/widowmaker/jaina breasts. Even Hearthstone actually replaced Succubus with Felstalker and Blizzard sucks. Lol the tagline for Succubus "Warlocks have it pretty good." Hilarious. At least it would maybe be mildly funny if it was such a frequent thing in games. Nah someone literally posted how they add tits to movies/shows for idiots to help bridge over the less exciting plot points which just smacks of some neck beard thinking they’ve self actualized and ascended beyond this mortal plane of base desires
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Nov 24, 2019 22:55
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Nah someone literally posted how they add tits to movies/shows for idiots to help bridge over the less exciting plot points They absolutely do tho? It's not like it's a big secret.
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Nov 24, 2019 22:59
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Jerry Cotton posted:They absolutely do tho? It's not like it's a big secret. Of course they do you moron, it’s the weird goony types who think they’re somehow better than watching boobs or asses on tv, whiteknighting TV nudity
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Nov 24, 2019 23:05
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StarMinstrel posted:I am sure women are highly motivated to join the industry considering how many role models women game designers there are and considering the large amount of games made with a woman perspective currently on the market! i definitely got into the game because i had so many native hawaiian game dev role mo--lmaoooo
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Nov 24, 2019 23:05
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I'm sure idiots will be fine if we replace tits and rear end in their entertainment with discourses on the hegelian philosophy of the right, and won't turn to some other privder of tits and rear end based entertainment.
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steinrokkan posted:I'm sure idiots will be fine if we replace tits and rear end in their entertainment with discourses on the hegelian philosophy of the right, and won't turn to some other privder of tits and rear end based entertainment. I’m the privder
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:I’m the privder thank you for your service
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Nah someone literally posted how they add tits to movies/shows for idiots to help bridge over the less exciting plot points which just smacks of some neck beard thinking they’ve self actualized and ascended beyond this mortal plane of base desires add tits to architecture imo, empire state with boobs. Big ben, with boobs. JFK airport - but with boobs
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sebmojo posted:add tits to architecture imo, empire state with boobs. Big ben, with boobs. JFK airport - but with boobs 
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sebmojo posted:add tits to architecture imo, empire state with boobs. Big ben, with boobs. JFK airport - but with boobs Tits in architecture were the norm until filthy modernists decided they were above such plebian concerns. The same is going to happen to games, heed my words.
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sebmojo posted:add tits to architecture imo, empire state with boobs. Big ben, with boobs. JFK airport - but with boobs Jugs, Funbags and Kans airport, just huge tits everywhere
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We need a revival of social realism architecture, heaving bosoms of female workers swinging hammers and scythes on every building's facade.
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Nov 25, 2019 00:29
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The men in games are just too hunky, i want them all to be sloped shouldered virgins with badly fitting t-shirts, enough of these disgusting pecs and overly sexual stubble, ugh god i bet their dicks are huge, disgusting
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Nov 25, 2019 02:03
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Caesar Saladin posted:sloped shouldered virgins with badly fitting t-shirts 
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sebmojo posted:add tits to architecture imo, empire state with boobs. Big ben, with boobs. JFK airport - but with boobs Women-led animated series Tuca & Bertie literally does this in the first moments of the opening sequence btw Serephina posted:You're kidding right? She's also super sexualized, has been forever. I've seen literal pin-up posters of her in college guy's bedrooms. She's undeniably badass, but is hardly what I'd call a strong case for feminism in the industry. It's actually worse since the reboot turned her into a misery porn emotionally damanged Whedon waifu. Shantae was designed by and popular with women, all indications are that women like fun and sexy female characters in video games with big boobs and exotic outfits, and it's p much entirely men who want to take those away and replace them with skinny brown haired white girls whose emotional range goes from grim determination to the edge of tears to appeal to a different set of creepy fetishes closer to 'am I kawaii? uguu~' than any sort of empowerment. Caesar Saladin posted:The men in games are just too hunky, i want them all to be sloped shouldered virgins with badly fitting t-shirts, enough of these disgusting pecs and overly sexual stubble, ugh god i bet their dicks are huge, disgusting Games have too many chads, this is misandry
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is pepsi ok posted:I know you're being ironic but everything you wrote is true, it's not 2009 anymore. If it's not the case anymore that 95% of the people designing games are men, I'd honestly love to see proper stats on it. As far as I know games are still super majorly made by men, and women in general still harbour the view that with very few exceptions, games are the domain of men: made by them and for them, to their unfortunate exclusion. If anyone has links to the contrary I'm all eyes. The White Dragon posted:i definitely got into the game because i had so many native hawaiian game dev role mo--lmaoooo Are you a woman? Popoto fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Nov 25, 2019 04:49
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StarMinstrel posted:If it's not the case anymore that 95% of the people designing games are men 
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Rutibex posted:it isn't *punches furiously into a calculator* the numbers are in, sexism is over
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Nier just turned into a text adventure about dreams. What the hell is happening?
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