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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

TulliusCicero posted:

This and the Seretary of the Navy thing proves one thing more than ever: Trump is a demented, sociopathic monster and he's only getting worse

Things will get worse before they get better. He seems emboldened or just frankly senile

Why not both?

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Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Gallagher is hated in the military isn’t he?

Wasn't it a bunch of SEALs who turned him for being a monster or was that another war criminal he pardoned?

olylifter
Sep 13, 2007

I'm bad with money and you have an avatar!
Has anyone asked a GOP type who's colluding with/being aided by loving russia whether he or she has considered what russia's motivations might be, or whether he or she thinks that russia's just being altruistic to some members of its former adversary of 70 odd years.

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

i am harry posted:

...No this is international Chinese genocide using consulates to extend reach.
I’m sure all countries consulates keep track of terrorists and threats to national security.

Dammerung
Oct 17, 2008

"Dang, that's hot."


GreyjoyBastard posted:

I suspect that was more directed at the Republicans who yelled about it but sure, same

I think that applies to me because I went hog on the whole Representative Omar/Erdogan meeting. My panic about it was shameful, unwarranted, unnecessary, and unfair. As unexpected as it was, it made sense for her to have met with him and I shouldn't have invoked it in a manner that suggested something improper, full stop.

TulliusCicero posted:

This and the Secretary of the Navy thing proves one thing more than ever: Trump is a demented, sociopathic monster and he's only getting worse

Things will get worse before they get better. He seems emboldened or just frankly senile

I'm surprised at the fact that I'm still surprised at those kinds of stories. It's not exactly a deviation from the norm for him!

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

olylifter posted:

Has anyone asked a GOP type who's colluding with/being aided by loving russia whether he or she has considered what russia's motivations might be, or whether he or she thinks that russia's just being altruistic to some members of its former adversary of 70 odd years.

Russia's motivations are white nationalism and so is the GOP's. Perfectly rational alliance.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Gallagher is hated in the military isn’t he?

Would you like to live and work with a psychotic murderer?

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Mooseontheloose posted:

Wasn't it a bunch of SEALs who turned him for being a monster or was that another war criminal he pardoned?

https://twitter.com/adamcbest/status/1146442955475083265

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Dapper_Swindler posted:

Gallagher is hated in the military isn’t he?

Other than his actual squad mates he's pretty popular cause he got to do what they all want to. Chuds love the guy.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

canepazzo posted:

Were there any for Chris Kyle? I honestly can't remember

Next time a chud argues "hurt durr gun free zones" remind them that Chris Kyle was shot at a gun range.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
like...there was literally a conspiracy theory that obama demanded loyalty from all the armed forces and fired those who wouldn't agree to fire on american citizens.

quote:

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years
What the president calls "my military" is being cleansed of any officer suspected of disloyalty to or disagreement with the administration on matters of policy or force structure, leaving the compliant and fearful.
10/29/2013
Here's a page debunking this myth:
and on and on. I found story after story either "uncovering" the story or debunking it. As well as a ton of mainstream media reports about how little obama loves the military and vice verse.

it's ALMOST like the media ISN'T liberal biased or something.

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.

olylifter posted:

Has anyone asked a GOP type who's colluding with/being aided by loving russia whether he or she has considered what russia's motivations might be, or whether he or she thinks that russia's just being altruistic to some members of its former adversary of 70 odd years.
They'll just give a mealy-mouthed answer about how Russia is a strategic rival, but have you considered how the real problem is that we're not investigating how Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election???

You cannot trap a Republican politician by asking them even the most slam-dunk question. Evading and redirecting tough questions is literally part of their job, and they're good at it.

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

Dad Jokes posted:

why is president wet cheeto so personally invested in this random jagoff war criminal


It's the suggestion that the military industrial complex should have any checks at all which people like Trump find deeply offensive. It also explains a lot of the resistance to any environmental regulation - the idea that capitalism should have any limits is deeply offensive.

they are fighting Bad Guys.

they are Making Profit.

Both of those are unassailable tenants of conservative thought. Well, this particularly stupid strain of conservative thought anyway. Even the military itself, and many capitalists, can acknowledge the nuance and know that everything needs some regulation.


e - as well as what everyone else has said too

Akumu
Apr 24, 2003

GlassEye-Boy posted:

I’m sure all countries consulates keep track of terrorists and threats to national security.

Hey guy, you want to expand on how being of a certain ethnicity makes one a "terrorist" and/or a "threat to national security"?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
I hope that hashtag catches on

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1198747096381345792

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

WoodrowSkillson posted:

Other than his actual squad mates he's pretty popular cause he got to do what they all want to.

Big ol' citation needed here.

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



BarbarianElephant posted:

Personal anecdotes about people you know might get through. So if you know someone whose parents were refugees and are now law-abiding pillars of the community, tell her about them.

Does she have problems empathizing with non-white born-and-bred Americans, too?

this is the woman that was upset that there were so many interacial couples in commercials. She doesn't think she is racist either.

Tuff Scrote
Apr 23, 2004
Congrats to new Secretary of the Navy Mick Mulvaney

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Fister Roboto posted:

Big ol' citation needed here.
Yeah, saying they all want to kill minorities with impunity is really unfair. Based on the guys I've known who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's like 50% tops.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



If there's one thing that separates the US military from their enemies it is certainly respect for the rule of law yessir.

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface
The dude hosed up so bad that his teammates ratted him out and they are attempting to throw the book at him. I don't think the military as a whole agrees with or likes him my dudes.

Trump has also basically gone out of his way to gently caress with the upper levels of the military that the troops generally like.

Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Nov 25, 2019

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1198732143284891648

who
is
ready
for a complete and total collapse of the power structure of a branch largest military in the world because our dumb president LOVES war criminals

Whelp, I see the answer is "Game on!".

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Wonder how many old Nixon supporters are crying now "Oh poo poo, they have tapes!"

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Telsa Cola posted:

The dude hosed up so bad that his teammates ratted him out and they are attempting to throw the book at him. I don't think the military as a whole agrees with or likes him my dudes.

this. eddie casts a really bad light on seals and other military teams and i doubt most troops or spec ops people are happy that the president is giving this loving psycho woman and probably child murderer a standing ovation.

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/lions-led-by-donkeys-podcast/e/64576454

this podcast talks about robert bales who was a super duper psycho fuckhead and they also talk about gallager a bit. its lefty military podcast by two vets.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1198732143284891648

who
is
ready
for a complete and total collapse of the power structure of a branch largest military in the world because our dumb president LOVES war criminals

i assume there will be a couple more resignations at least.

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Navy SEALS have an extremely bad reputation among other SOF groups already.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1198718178702118914?s=20

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/tpm_dk/status/1198674295691632642?s=21

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Yup, he is ignoring everyone and restoring everything to this loving pieces of poo poo

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1198746377720909824

We'll see you in a few months with the boot print on your butt, Ken. My advice, don't get comfortable. At this point i have to wonder why anyone accepts a job in this administration. Trump's had more people fired than Lincoln fired generals.

Slugworth posted:

Yeah, saying they all want to kill minorities with impunity is really unfair. Based on the guys I've known who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's like 50% tops.

From my experiences, lots of them going in feel that way, but the majority come out realizing and having befriended a number of middle easterners. It's the macho peaked in high school assholes that come out the same way they went in because to them what was cool when you were 18 is still cool when you're 48
ymmv though

Telsa Cola posted:

The dude hosed up so bad that his teammates ratted him out and they are attempting to throw the book at him. I don't think the military as a whole agrees with or likes him my dudes.

Trump has also basically gone out of his way to gently caress with the upper levels of the military that the troops generally like.

That medic was certainly pissed at him for gutting the dude for a selfie the medic was trying to save

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Nov 25, 2019

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Oxford Names ‘Climate Emergency’ Its 2019 Word of the Year
nytimes.com/Nov. 20, 2019
'Oxford Dictionaries has named “climate emergency” as its 2019 Word of the Year, choosing it from an all-environmental shortlist that also included “climate action,” “climate denial,” “eco-anxiety,” “extinction” and “flight shame.”'

Tesla’s Cybertruck Is a Vehicle for the Adult Baby Class War
vice.com/Nov 22 2019
"Who needs a bulletproof truck to go buy groceries? I'll tell you who."

Students Storm Field At Halftime Of Harvard-Yale Football Game To Protest Climate Change
wbur.org/November 23, 2019
"Protesters wearing the colors of both Harvard and Yale staged a sit-in at midfield of Yale Bowl during halftime of the 136th edition of the annual football rivalry known as The Game. Most left after about an hour when they were escorted off by police; a handful who remained were told by police they were under arrest."

‘This is a human tragedy and an ecological tragedy
hcn.org/Nov. 22, 2019
'She wasn’t alone: Over 300 environmentalists, Indigenous activists, Samaritan groups and human rights defenders had gathered, for the first time, to protest the panels of steel bollards going up just a few miles down the road. Organizers hadn’t expected so many concerned people, alerted by social media, to make the journey from elsewhere in Arizona and the surrounding region. “I guess I shouldn't be surprised that this many people traipsed all the way out here,” said Randy Serraglio, with the Center for Biological Diversity, one of the event’s organizers. “Border issues really get people fired up, they really do.”'

Paris Protesters March Against Deadly Domestic Violence Towards Women
time.com/November 23, 2019
'(PARIS) — Several thousand protesters marched through Paris on Saturday to demand a national wake-up call and more government investment to prevent deadly domestic violence against women, a problem that President Emmanuel Macron calls “France’s shame.”'

Protests are everywhere. The world is rising up. So can humanity
theglobeandmail.com/2 days ago
"Activists learned a tremendous amount from successes and failures of the previous cycle of protest movements. As did governments."
....
"It’s happening again: Revolutionary fever is infecting the social body. The people of Hong Kong, Lebanon, Chile, Iran, Iraq and beyond are mobbing the streets in massive numbers. These movements are achieving a level of militancy not seen in a decade."

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

I was reading GIP they brought up an excellent point.

What’s stopping every disgruntled enlisted CHUD from calling Fox News and making GBS threads all over their commanders after this?

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

SocketWrench posted:

We'll see you in a few months with the boot print on your butt, Ken. My advice, don't get comfortable. At this point i have to wonder why anyone accepts a job in this administration. Trump's had more people fired than Lincoln fired generals.

isnt ken a career dude too?

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

I read the replies to that NBC tweet about Spencer's letter: vets are pissed at Trump. It's clear that it's a "you made an oath to the Constitution not the President" situation.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Dapper_Swindler posted:

this. eddie casts a really bad light on seals and other military teams and i doubt most troops or spec ops people are happy that the president is giving this loving psycho woman and probably child murderer a standing ovation.

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/lions-led-by-donkeys-podcast/e/64576454

this podcast talks about robert bales who was a super duper psycho fuckhead and they also talk about gallager a bit. its lefty military podcast by two vets.

He was definitely a child murderer. One of the stories told was how he murdered some kid for simply crossing in front of his crosshairs. Guy was a murdering sociopath who should spend his life in prison

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

SocketWrench posted:

He was definitely a child murderer. One of the stories told was how he murdered some kid for simply crossing in front of his crosshairs. Guy was a murdering sociopath who should spend his life in prison

prison is way too good for him. he should just be gotten rid of and forgotten.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/stat...ingawful.com%2F

half cocaine
Jul 22, 2019



Did he take out a 500 year lease on the Gaza strip and least it back to the Palestinians in exchange for a negative cashflow rent?

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

GreyjoyBastard posted:

I suspect that was more directed at the Republicans who yelled about it but sure, same

It was blanket directed at everyone who doesn't understand the difference between a deliberate 'not-voting' with simultaneous release of a letter referring to the armenian genocide as a genocide and voting against. But yeah, mostly what you said

Slugworth posted:

Yeah, saying they all want to kill minorities with impunity is really unfair. Based on the guys I've known who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan, it's like 50% tops.

yeah and plenty of non SOF guys have killed prisoners, used to be pretty common for marine intelligence units.

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Nov 25, 2019

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Tax.

https://i.imgur.com/E8oUcIJ.mp4

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Scott Forstall
Aug 16, 2003

MMM THAT FAUX LEATHER
extremely normal that the President of the United States is siding with a war criminal over the Secretary of the Navy, such that the SecNavy is pushed out, the war criminal can retire with full benefits and then move on to a cushy Fox News wingnut welfare gig.

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