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DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

this AV Club review of this week's episode is really wonderful, everyone should really read it.

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General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
I’m seeing the word “I” a hell of a lot of times in the first two paragraphs, pass.

Klungar
Feb 12, 2008

Klungo make bessst ever video game, 'Hero Klungo Sssavesss Teh World.'


I recognized “I Don’t Want to Set the World on Fire” from Fallout of course, but the fact that all the period songs were from a group called The Ink Spots is quite appropriate for this universe.

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time

Shout out to The Ink Spots for Fallouting it up this episode. I counted no less than three of their songs popping up throughout.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

Heavy Shit
Grimey Drawer
How did Don Johnson manage to cause himself to lift off the ground while hanging?

I mean, the episode was really good. The hanging thing was a pretty big unknown for the audience to guess at (can a 100+ year old man lift a body up into a tree) and then it gets hand-waved away in a jarringly impossible self-hanging scenario?

Pure Lindelof.

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe

Midgetskydiver posted:

How did Don Johnson manage to cause himself to lift off the ground while hanging?

Stepped off a stool. Though it looked like he left way too much slack when he tied off the rope to the other branch.

The Clap
Sep 21, 2006

currently training to kill God

General Dog posted:

I’m seeing the word “I” a hell of a lot of times in the first two paragraphs, pass.


What a stunningly moronic thing to say. Is it impossible for you to imagine that a black TV critic could relate this episode to their own lived experience in the course of reviewing the episode? Grow the gently caress up.

AccountSupervisor
Aug 3, 2004

I am greatful for my loop pedal
*cuts into brick with knife*

*lifts powder to tongue and tastes it, eyes widening in shock*

"My god, its Pure Lindelof"

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Midgetskydiver posted:

How did Don Johnson manage to cause himself to lift off the ground while hanging?

I mean, the episode was really good. The hanging thing was a pretty big unknown for the audience to guess at (can a 100+ year old man lift a body up into a tree) and then it gets hand-waved away in a jarringly impossible self-hanging scenario?

Pure Lindelof.

He stepped off a small a stool but it was nowhere close to the height he was found at.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
He mind controlled a guy with a flashlight but the stool is just too much.

nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

ded posted:

He mind controlled a guy with a flashlight but the stool is just too much.

One is a plot device. The other is a continuity error. I don't care though, just pointing it out.

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

After Don hanged himself, Will obviously mind-controlled the tree to grow a few feet taller.

Sleeveless
Dec 25, 2014

by Pragmatica
Alan Moore was right to publicly fill his dipes about this show existing because now that we're 30 years past the point where comic book nerds will latch onto anything even remotely literary becase of how desperate for validation they are this adaptation eclipses the original on every level. Rest in piss.

Scooter_McCabe posted:

Oh yeah no way would I have come up with anything this good, which is why I didn't become a script writer. Dipshit.

Glad you agree your posts are worthless trash, please remember that any time you ever feel tempted to smash the Submit Reply button in the future. Dipshit.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Sleeveless posted:

Alan Moore was right to publicly fill his dipes about this show existing

Has he made any public comment about the show? Or is this still the general bitching about him not wanting to be associated with any adaptation?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Sleeveless posted:

Alan Moore was right to publicly fill his dipes about this show existing because now that we're 30 years past the point where comic book nerds will latch onto anything even remotely literary becase of how desperate for validation they are this adaptation eclipses the original on every level. Rest in piss.


Glad you agree your posts are worthless trash, please remember that any time you ever feel tempted to smash the Submit Reply button in the future. Dipshit.

Thanks, now I hate the show

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
That ep was self indulgent and frankly boring.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
Man like the opening scene of the series, this was raw as hell for me. Thought it was pretty well done.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Sleeveless posted:

Alan Moore was right to publicly fill his dipes about this show existing because now that we're 30 years past the point where comic book nerds will latch onto anything even remotely literary becase of how desperate for validation they are this adaptation eclipses the original on every level. Rest in piss.


Glad you agree your posts are worthless trash, please remember that any time you ever feel tempted to smash the Submit Reply button in the future. Dipshit.

Don't be a bad poster. Working on flaws is HOT in 2019, and "having a constant meltdown" is a great opportunity.


Supreme Allah posted:

That ep was self indulgent and frankly boring.

Interesting! Boring is not a word I'd use to describe it (although the girl I was watching it with did fall asleep...)

It was an amazing episode in my opinion, although I'm surprised to see an episode like this in a 9-episode season.

I was disappointed we got no Veidt or LG, but I don't think the episode would have been better for including them; it just would've slaked my curiosity for the week.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

GoGoGadgetChris posted:

Don't be a bad poster. Working on flaws is HOT in 2019, and "having a constant meltdown" is a great opportunity.


Interesting! Boring is not a word I'd use to describe it (although the girl I was watching it with did fall asleep...)

It was an amazing episode in my opinion, although I'm surprised to see an episode like this in a 9-episode season.

I was disappointed we got no Veidt or LG, but I don't think the episode would have been better for including them; it just would've slaked my curiosity for the week.

It's a quality show, everything is being done at the top level.

I loved, loved the Fallout soundtrack.

...I don't want to set the world on fire....

And I don't want to start a boring drawn out discussion that nobody cares about. I think the racial stuff is being over-indulgent in lue of actual, Watchmen related story telling.

Where's my blue cock.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

The Human Crouton posted:

When the last episode ends on a cliffhanger, then the show needs to address it at the start of the next episode. If we are supposed to care about the story then the show needs to address the story more, and jerk itself off over its zaniness less.

Normally I'd agree with you but the story they told tonight was way more interesting* than "did Buster Scruggs get killed" and I definitely didn't care about the 2019 plot within a few minutes



*If the name "Hooded Justice" already means something to you, anyway. Tonight was the first time I felt like the show actually benefits from a good understanding of the old graphic novel rather than just let you spot a bunch of easter eggs



Still curious what's up with the romaine lettuce and egg motifs


HJ getting shot at by the shopkeeper was a funny inversion from the clip of Cheyenne Jackson saving the shoppers

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Sleeveless posted:

Alan Moore was right to publicly fill his dipes about this show existing because now that we're 30 years past the point where comic book nerds will latch onto anything even remotely literary becase of how desperate for validation they are this adaptation eclipses the original on every level. Rest in piss.


Glad you agree your posts are worthless trash, please remember that any time you ever feel tempted to smash the Submit Reply button in the future. Dipshit.

you know that quote everyone was passing around a few weeks ago was from years before this TV show ever existed right? Moore hasn't, to my knowledge, said anything about this show, because at this point he completely and totally gives zero shits about adaptations to his work, to both his and our benefit

General Dog posted:

I’m seeing the word “I” a hell of a lot of times in the first two paragraphs, pass.

why are you so terrible

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
Just realised there was a lot of Birdman in this episode as well. More I mull on it the better it gets, apart from mesmer torch hanging which was a bit silly even for this.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
.
Taco Defender
WIfe: You should do this, you are an angry black man, main character reeves!
20 minutes later
WIfe: Look what you let yourself do! I'm leaving you!

Adder Moray
Nov 18, 2010

Tenzarin posted:

WIfe: You should do this, you are an angry black man, main character reeves!
20 minutes later
WIfe: Look what you let yourself do! I'm leaving you!

It's more
Wife: Here's an outlet for what you're after, you should do it.
5 minutes later
rear end in a top hat: Do it. but with me.
Wife: Don't
Will: *Does*
15 minutes later
Wife: Well, you've gone and turned this into poo poo. I hoped it was going to help you, but now it's just made it worse. gently caress off forever, Will.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Supreme Allah posted:

It's a quality show, everything is being done at the top level.

I loved, loved the Fallout soundtrack.

...I don't want to set the world on fire....

And I don't want to start a boring drawn out discussion that nobody cares about. I think the racial stuff is being over-indulgent in lue of actual, Watchmen related story telling.

Where's my blue cock.

Exploring a complicated political issue through the lens of superheroes is totally in line with Watchmen tho.

Figures Lady Treau would be into objectivism. She was reading The Fountainhead as Angela woke up.

ghostwritingduck
Aug 26, 2004

"I hope you like waking up at 6 a.m. and having your favorite things destroyed. P.S. Forgive me because I'm cuter than that $50 wire I just ate."
I saw the The Watchmen movie and vaguely remember it as ok. I haven’t read the comic. Will this show make sense to me?

CAROL
Oct 29, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
It doesn’t even make sense to us

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

ghostwritingduck posted:

I saw the The Watchmen movie and vaguely remember it as ok. I haven’t read the comic. Will this show make sense to me?

Are you cool with mystery box shows?

Then you have your answer.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Sleeveless posted:

Glad you agree your posts are worthless trash, please remember that any time you ever feel tempted to smash the Submit Reply button in the future. Dipshit.

Oh lol.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Klungar posted:

I recognized “I Don’t Want to Set the World on Fire” from Fallout of course, but the fact that all the period songs were from a group called The Ink Spots is quite appropriate for this universe.

I was wondering why the Ink Spots soundtrack and it wasnt until the talky breakdown (every Ink Spots song has the exact same into riff and talky bit) that I remembered like Will, they were black but often people assume they're white.

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

Quantum Shart posted:

Just realised there was a lot of Birdman in this episode as well. More I mull on it the better it gets, apart from mesmer torch hanging which was a bit silly even for this.

Drums-only soundtrack: check
Scene transitions in the same shot: check

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


My only complaint about this episode would be that it doesn't feel like it really drives the show's narrative forward at all. It was very fun to watch and interesting in its own right but it feels like we put the show on pause to dabble in a side story.

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

LesterGroans posted:

Has he made any public comment about the show? Or is this still the general bitching about him not wanting to be associated with any adaptation?

There was a bunch of tweets from mores daughter about her dad recently where she said that his hatred of anything superhero is based on bad memories of how he's been treated in the industry more than the merits of the work, they are aware that yes, theres a tonne of great material out there he doesn't get exposed to.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Agent355 posted:

My only complaint about this episode would be that it doesn't feel like it really drives the show's narrative forward at all. It was very fun to watch and interesting in its own right but it feels like we put the show on pause to dabble in a side story.

This is the story. HBO's Watchmen is a story about Hooded Justice enlisting his granddaughter in a fight against a conspiracy that has infested, or perhaps thrived within, law enforcement possibly nationwide.

Jay-V
Nov 8, 2009

Agent355 posted:

My only complaint about this episode would be that it doesn't feel like it really drives the show's narrative forward at all. It was very fun to watch and interesting in its own right but it feels like we put the show on pause to dabble in a side story.

Kind of, but it did seem to clarify present day affiliations, as well as the potential nefarious scheme from 7K (mesmerism). And come on, the side stuff in the original was the best part too. Edit: and as s-m above says, it isn’t even exactly “side” stuff

Quantum Shart posted:

Just realised there was a lot of Birdman in this episode as well. More I mull on it the better it gets, apart from mesmer torch hanging which was a bit silly even for this.

Yes totally, there was one specific part of the soundtrack (maybe when the son was putting on makeup?) that was distinctly Birdman.

Jay-V fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Nov 25, 2019

Legin Noslen
Sep 9, 2004
Fortified with Rhiboflavin
Am I loving crazy or were one of the cops literally jerking off to American Hero Story?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Has anyone actually listened to The Adventures of Superman episodes where he takes down the KKK, Clan of the Fiery Cross? I'd be curious to see if there any deep-cut references to that here.

Agent355 posted:

My only complaint about this episode would be that it doesn't feel like it really drives the show's narrative forward at all. It was very fun to watch and interesting in its own right but it feels like we put the show on pause to dabble in a side story.

The mesmerism stuff is going to be the big narrative thrust moving forward.

Also, goddamn do I love the Cyclops plot. It is so perfectly, wonderfully Golden Age pulp. It's the first stuff in this show that has truly felt "comic booky" to me, and it's exactly what I want out of period superhero stuff, grounded in something truly harrowing. It struck just the right balance for me that the comic does with taking silly concepts and treating them seriously. The fact that it's also going to be pulled into the modern day in an equally horrifying way is going to be something to behold.

feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Nov 25, 2019

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

Agent355 posted:

My only complaint about this episode would be that it doesn't feel like it really drives the show's narrative forward at all. It was very fun to watch and interesting in its own right but it feels like we put the show on pause to dabble in a side story.

Seems like it fills a similar thematic purpose to Dr. Manhattan's origin story, which also took place in the middle of the original series and involved a lot of nonlinear storytelling.

It also, funnily enough, reminded me of Time's Arrow from Bojack Horseman, which also involved reliving the traumatic memories of an older character and used a lot of the same stylistic flourishes that this episode did.

SimonChris
Apr 24, 2008

The Baron's daughter is missing, and you are the man to find her. No problem. With your inexhaustible arsenal of hard-boiled similes, there is nothing you can't handle.
Grimey Drawer

feedmyleg posted:

Has anyone actually listened to The Adventures of Superman episodes where he takes down the KKK, Clan of the Fiery Cross? I'd be curious to see if there any deep-cut references to that here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ol8Gmi57DI

It's on youtube. I haven't gotten around to it yet.

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SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
"I'm telling you, Hooded Justice is Dr. Manhattan!" -Random Cop in episode 5

"Maybe I'm Dr. Manhattan." -Hooded Justice in episode 2.

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