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poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
how has the international community stood up for hong kong exactly

is it just asking china to please dont release the tanks? because theyve done that for catalonia too

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
The gamers rose for hk

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
The farmers are at it again, illegally storming the Hague now

https://twitter.com/omroepwest/status/1184397567066591232?s=19

Seems they’re calling in the army to stop the farmers now

https://twitter.com/delangemars/status/1184162717889957888?s=19

https://twitter.com/Rechtsengroen/status/1184376871733084162?s=19

twoday has issued a correction as of 12:20 on Oct 16, 2019

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Edit

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



I hope public perception keeps changing against them, and maybe also be a wake up call that the (far) right is all to glad to cuddle them; but who am I kidding.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/chrsvndrstn/status/1184434689551093767?s=20

They are blockading the highway now

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
The Minister of Justice is saying that the farmers are now attempting to storm the Binnenhof, a literal medieval castle around which parliament is built

He says that they shouldn't do that

https://twitter.com/ferdgrapperhaus/status/1184435198794108929?s=19

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/evawiessing/status/1184424761444708352?s=20

Now a total hermetic blockade of the parliament area has been declared so all the government officials coming back from lunch can’t get back into their offices

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/rtvoostlive/status/1184440892855390208?s=20

Now a giant mob of farmers is roaming around the city setting off fireworks and blocking tram lines and making lots of noise

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
People are saying that the military is allowing the farmers to pass through blockades in defiance of their orders

hmm

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
Normally the government hires civilian trucks to block roads, the drivers of those were intimidated last protest though and declined to return. So army trucks it is.

twoday posted:

People are saying that the military is allowing the farmers to pass through blockades in defiance of their orders

hmm

Government is saying the only military deployed are the truck drivers to move the trucks on police direction. Quickly looking at pictures that seems accurate, all logistic types, not infantry. So I doubt they have any enforcement orders or even legal authority at all.

AlexanderCA has issued a correction as of 13:35 on Oct 16, 2019

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

twoday posted:

Now a giant mob of farmers is roaming around the city setting off fireworks and blocking tram lines and making lots of noise
perfect place to start some agitprop about the big monsanto bosses stealing all their profits and govt not being socialist generous enough with subsidies, imo

uncop
Oct 23, 2010
Is it wrong for me to see that Dutch farmer protest as inspirational? I feel like people planning disruptive protests should start looking at producing killdozer mod kits for the kinds of vehicles that have the power to push regular cars around.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747
While they have a legitimate grievance to a certain degree when it comes to the issue of nitrate deposition. Having already reduced 65% of emissions and now being told to do more. It's also become a rural vs urban identity war with the expected conservative vs progressive sentiment and the denial of scientific findings by farmers.

The unfortunate fact is that despite the large reductions made by farmers in emissions, farming remains the biggest pollutor by far in this regard. Shrinking the sector as a whole becomes necessary if efficiency measures don't cut it. Of course this presumes you care about local nature to begin with. To some degree all "nature" in the Netherlands is artificial after centuries of shaping the land.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/DenHaagFM/status/1184446693833658369?s=19

Through the blockade and zipping around downtown, yeehaw. I think they're headed towards parliament

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Not that it matters much, but the King in India at the moment

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/edgarmulder1/status/1184453066311028743?s=19

Almost there!

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
This is apparently the unimpressive defense they have set up at the entrance to the Binnenhof:

https://twitter.com/BoelensL/status/1184452698772574209?s=19

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






twoday posted:

This is apparently the unimpressive defense they have set up at the entrance to the Binnenhof:

https://twitter.com/BoelensL/status/1184452698772574209?s=19

Those bollards are tractor proof I'd imagine

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Behold renewal

https://twitter.com/RenewEurope/status/1184786591363018752

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/publico_es/status/1185659354541899776?s=19

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/luisgonzaloseg/status/1189617301286461443

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009
This was a fun week in portuguese pol, from the three parties with inner fighting the one who came out worst and more publicised was the left's newest dearest, Livre. With a really high school level of gossip played out in all to see.
Having voted for them in part due to their identity platform, it's really disappointing how this played out and I still don't get what really happened.

Dawncloack
Nov 26, 2007
ECKS DEE!
Nap Ghost
What happenned was the media overamplifying the fights inside some parties and hiding the fights in others.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

The silver lining is that it made the press be actually specific about Pro-Palestine activism and support it on some level.

Honest Thief
Jan 11, 2009

Dawncloack posted:

What happenned was the media overamplifying the fights inside some parties and hiding the fights in others.

you'd figure accusations of forged signatures would take a more center stage but it is easier to report on bickering and some people were dying to make a stand on how this was all due to her stuttering

Kunster posted:

The silver lining is that it made the press be actually specific about Pro-Palestine activism and support it on some level.

oh yeah, even one of my uncles commented on the ideological position of the european left on the palestine issue

Honest Thief has issued a correction as of 11:38 on Nov 26, 2019

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
Try talking to German leftist about Israel and the issue of Palestine; fun times guaranteed!

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

yikes

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1202442772608716800

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

i just noticed that Spain had another parliamentary election last month. i'm gonna take a wild guess and say that the Socialist-led coalition held together like a vase put together with magic tape in a rainstorm

also Vox is now the third largest party in the Cortes and i'm gonna bet that they're the people behind this. good job Spain!

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



liberalism is only vaguely disguised fascism.
liberals have given their soul to capital and will do anything to preserve that status quo.
never enter into a coalition with liberals, they will never align with anybody left of extremist centrism.
speaking of centrists, they too (and the liberals) will betray you for a fascist liar's kiss

Tewdrig
Dec 6, 2005

It's good to be the king.
Euro Minor League Update

Switzerland has a council of seven as its executive, and it has traditionally been a grand coalition of the parties across the spectrum that then are supposed to support the decisions made by the council (the parties in the legislature are not so bound, just the individual members). Currently the makeup is 2-2-2-1, of nationalist right wingers, socialists, liberals, and Christian dems (centrists, mostly)

The far right nationalists are the biggest party. There was an election this fall and the Greens and the Green Liberals (liberals in green branding, really) did great. The nationalists took a beating, but all the traditional parties did in favor of the Greens or Green Libs. Greens ended one seat shy of being the third largest party (Liberals). With the Green Libs, Green is the second largest block. So they demanded a seat on the council from the liberals, who currently have two, on the basis that the two parties did practically the same in the election.

The nationalists, libs, and CDs rallied to the defense of the liberal and said Greens hadn’t really earned the seat. Maybe in five years if they do well in the next election, but this one doesn’t count. So the centrists, libs, and extreme right allied to keep their 5-2 majority on the council rather than give up one seat and still have a majority.

anyway here is the fun left/right parliament picture. the centrist-right wingers have a majority and have decided to essentially cut the left from government, since the two socialists would always get outvoted but in public respect the :decorum: of supporting the policies the government tries to shove through.


maroon is the lone communist. Then the big ones are socialists, greens, green libs, Christian dems, liberals, and far right nationalists.

same chart prior to the election:


don’t trust the liberals, they will betray you

anyway my city is run by the Socialists and a local leftist-Green party, just raised taxes by a public vote, decriminalized a bunch of actions that were being used to harass the poor and immigrants, just voted to allow foreigners with five years residence to vote, and is in general pretty awesome. so there are pockets of hope out there.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

oliwan posted:

Try talking to German leftist about Israel and the issue of Palestine; fun times guaranteed!

:confused: that depends heavily on the leftist? They're not all anti-deutsche

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

what

Kefahuchi_son!!!
Apr 23, 2015
I just watched the night news in the portuguese public broadcaster and the themes chosen by the resident commentators were the twin dangers of the left winnning the us democratic primary and the possible hijacking of the struggle against climate-change by anti-capitalist forces.
Love to have dipshits everywhere feeling mad and threatened by Bernie Sanders.

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
theyre correct in feeling threatened, and going forward they ought to be terrified instead. this is good

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/CTyrants/status/1207304043066003467?s=20

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Populism Updates trolls a lot, but he did teach me about the surprisingly popular animal rights parties

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1209180292356820992

Kefahuchi_son!!!
Apr 23, 2015

I guess nowadays you can measure the success of something by the lengths the mainstream press goes to ignore it. Barely a mention in portuguese papers or tv.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1209547178143666176
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1209548401538322432

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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1207666896872456192?s=19

The EU has dashed France's attempt at bringing Airbnb into line with its property and rental regulations.

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