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Sandweed posted:Rex and crew is probably not gonna have as much fun when they aren't the only 30+ people on the server anymore. It's only 40 people per game, so both teams will be played by his forces. And nobody will want to shoot him.
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I discovered this farce around the infamous Christmas stream where Croberts struggled to play the game he apparently was all in on. I think it’s high time we direct Greenpeace and PETA in his direction; this amount of whaling must be breaking some international treaties.
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Sorry guys Star Citizen card game is delayed. https://twitter.com/ThomasE00871246/status/1198616287947214848 RubberJohnny posted:The Pyro thing was obviously faked, right? They're emphasising in the presentation it's streaming out one environment and streaming in another, but the portal has a massive gas cloud blocking what's behind it, the camera clips outside of the tunnel and reveals they're just going through the gas cloud and then they've stuck a vista on the other side of the gas cloud. Welcome to Star Citizen.
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Aiming for the best? I hate to see what the result is when Robert's says "gently caress it" on some project then.
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Aramoro posted:I love the comments about how 'Not even Skyrim was this good' Skyrim was released 8 years ago, cost $80 mill to make and was an actually released game. Skyrim's lead platform had 512 mb of RAM.
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We may or may not be reading too much into Crobbers performance, but his closing keynote definitely had some very different vibes than usual. Just compare it to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuDj5v81Nd0&t=3647s Maybe this year was the first time that he was presenting sober, and the cold harsh reality of the janky shitpile that is SC was staring him in the face.
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Inacio posted:fun fact: when i got my account back from this guy who stole it (long story) i found it had a super hornet and a mustang omega. You can downgrade, by way of melting the ships for store credit and then buying something new, it's just a stupidly convoluted process that takes place in a separate part of the website from their ship upgrader thing. I think maybe you can't melt the Mustang Omega cause it came from an AMD code but you should be able to get ~150 in store credit for the Super Hornet if you actually want to lol.
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Quavers posted:
Holy hell. They are never going to finish this loving thing.
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Quavers posted:
Just imagine being on a loving project where you've had to re-make the same character at least 4 times over 5-6 years all because a thumb demands it. Just imagine coming in to work day in and day out, simply to polish a poo poo character for a poo poo game who's only purpose is to help sell poo poo ships during the poo poo ship sale.
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Quavers posted:
We're reaching Peyton Manning levels of forehead. That or the guy's hair is receding with age.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:We're reaching Peyton Manning levels of forehead. That or the guy's hair is receding with age. Caught up with the thread. Looks like an Extinction Level Event to me. Why does nobody mention land claims to Cymelion and Dolvak? Clearest example of scope creep that appears to have completely fallen by the wayside for the past two years. I mean they do the shutting the eyes really tight thing and claiming that they can’t see, which feeds entirely into their sunk cost/shilling, but poo poo, they’re falling behind on the basic deliverables, let alone all the whizzy stuff they’ve been buying every year.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Just imagine coming in to work day in and day out, simply to polish a poo poo character for a poo poo game who's only purpose is to help sell poo poo ships during the poo poo ship sale. I do. And when I do, I’m ready to put $20000 into this game — I’M READY TO SPEND IT ALL!!! Hav posted:Caught up with the thread. I did mention land claims to Dolvak. And his bear meme thievery. And the /Games mod deleted my post! 
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Quavers posted:
 Can you spell REFACTOR, Citizen?
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What's been sticking out to me lately is how... "bad" the human models look. They've got this really creepy possessed-Ken-doll look to them.
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Taintrunner posted:What's been sticking out to me lately is how... "bad" the human models look. They've got this really creepy possessed-Ken-doll look to them. Uncanny valley. The closer you get to realism, the more disconcerting something looks. It's insanely difficult, arguably impossible in a video game.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:We're reaching Peyton Manning levels of forehead. That or the guy's hair is receding with age. I wonder how Dan Snyder would handle development.
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It gets joked about a lot here that no AAA title can compare with dreams.txt, but to see it so lovingly rendered is amazing. It's so hard to believe, amidst the comedy of Bagman and hilarious demos, that people are so deeply emotionally invested that they've quite literally substituted their imaginations for reality. It's funny, but a sad kind of funny, and I guess that feeling is Star Citizen.
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It obviously looks good, but that's about it. What I dont get is how terrible the gameplay is compared to the keynote just a year before. Did they break everything? Did the people who created the keynote demos before left the company?
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Taintrunner posted:What's been sticking out to me lately is how... "bad" the human models look. They've got this really creepy possessed-Ken-doll look to them. Possessed Ken-doll is already taken   (seriously, why does the protagonist in this game look so bad when most of the other characters look actually fine for TYOOL 2019) e: regarding the Star Citizen Jeremy Clarkson video: was their mocap rig broken? His eyes look constantly in the wrong direction. I'd like an answer from the Junior Senior MoCap Specialist at CIG! tuo fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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tuo posted:Possessed Ken-doll is already taken Finally a game that lets me play a good looking late adolescent white dude. I guess SC is improving representation since all their player models look like bloated cop thumb people.
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One of the more laughable things I have is for a space game with all the lore, not a single alien species is in-game. Yet there is a panel on how one of them will talk.
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Taintrunner posted:What's been sticking out to me lately is how... "bad" the human models look. They've got this really creepy possessed-Ken-doll look to them. From what I've looked at, they are actually fairly solid, with two exceptions - mouth and eyes. Mouths are really hard to do right, because people usually keep most of their teeth hidden, and similarly, most people close their eyes more than you'd imagine them to do. But that goes directly against the main rule of computer rendering safety rule - keep everything apart so that it doesn't clip. This leads to unnaturaly wide open eyes and mouths. And while CI seems to have partially solved the former (like HL2 years ago), the latter still seems to be a problem in these screens - and the underlying problem is of course we have some instincts, and the instinct for "they are showing teeth, but aren't smiling" is fear / aggression. Of course this is a (somewhat) minor problem with prerendered motion capture with professionals. It turns into HUGE problem once you put players in seat with wonky cams for $5 - see Robbaz's videos for excellent examples of that.
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tuo posted:Possessed Ken-doll is already taken Call me crazy but I don't think he actually looks that bad? I haven't played it so it's hard to judge from a couple of still images but it looks like they got Cameron Monaghan pretty accurately modeled and then just sort of stylized some stuff. I can see where maybe the art direction is off-putting to folks but to me that looks way less upsetting than the Old Man Mark Hamill stuff CIG was showing off a while ago.
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Beet Wagon posted:Call me crazy but I don't think he actually looks that bad? I haven't played it so it's hard to judge from a couple of still images but it looks like they got Cameron Monaghan pretty accurately modeled and then just sort of stylized some stuff. I can see where maybe the art direction is off-putting to folks but to me that looks way less upsetting than the Old Man Mark Hamill stuff CIG was showing off a while ago. It's not photo realistic, therefore bad.
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Colostomy Bag posted:One of the more laughable things I have is for a space game with all the lore, not a single alien species is in-game.
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Hav posted:Why does nobody mention land claims to Cymelion and Dolvak? Because they aren't arguing in good faith? 
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tuo posted:Possessed Ken-doll is already taken The dude just looks that way.  From a technical pov, JFO characters are all pretty great since they're well rigged 3D scans of actual humans with probably the most you can do currently with UE4.
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Its probably not a compliment to say the video-game Monaghan is less uncanny-valley than the real Monaghan.
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haldolium posted:
ima call bs on that if you dont mind my dude   2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5bmk00Auw 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyqJghINrV4 2018 bonus - paragon also ran on base consoles at 60fps many years ago:    it's a shame that it's really hard to find ingame, non-blurry close up shots of paragon characters. most are video stills. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-VyoqRB5_g
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trucutru posted:The backers do not need any mention about sales starting or whatnot. They have an alarm set up for the 24th of November of each year that goes "buy buy BUY BUY NOW LTI NOW!". The game is buying ships, they know about the sales. I'm not sure this is true; I don't think there's enough sucker money to keep this afloat. They really are caught in a trap of their own creation. When early donations were hot and heavy, they set up a pattern of spending that they can't scale back from now without looking like they're failing. Yet the current burn rate is unsustainable, which is why they needed outside investment. And regardless of the Reddit peanut gallery's expert financial opinions, CIG has no actual "valuation," because they have no product - just 8 years of technical debt and hundreds of thousands of "IOUs" to backers. They've already been paid for the "product," delivered nothing, and nobody else cares or will ever care. If the Calder's investment was the only thing keeping CIG afloat, and I think this likely, then they can cash their chips in at any time, ending the company instantly. That could happen this year, next year, by 3:00 PM today, or never. The ball is entirely in the investor's court. Of course it could theoretically go on forever, assuming that CIG continues to find outside investment every year or two to the tune of $50 million or so. I would agree there are that many stupid millionaires world wide for that to happen. But I don't think CIG's optics lately make that likely.
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SoftNum posted:Because they aren't arguing in good faith? Yeah, but that's how you get the best pretzels.
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Inacio posted:ima call bs on that if you dont mind my dude why though? It's on pair with all of that and goes beyond it when it comes to proper lighting, the tech demos from Mike Seymour excluded which are in no UE4 game even though "(2018)". A Plague Tale too has amazing character visuals, but all of them are not perfect. What JFO especially does best is skin shading so you don't end up with almost unlit albedo hands like in that Star Citizen video. It's very good and I don't really see the need to poo poo over JFO It's well done technically.
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Scruffpuff posted:I'm not sure this is true; I don't think there's enough sucker money to keep this afloat. They really are caught in a trap of their own creation. When early donations were hot and heavy, they set up a pattern of spending that they can't scale back from now without looking like they're failing. Yet the current burn rate is unsustainable, which is why they needed outside investment. And regardless of the Reddit peanut gallery's expert financial opinions, CIG has no actual "valuation," because they have no product - just 8 years of technical debt and hundreds of thousands of "IOUs" to backers. They've already been paid for the "product," delivered nothing, and nobody else cares or will ever care. If the Calder's investment was the only thing keeping CIG afloat, and I think this likely, then they can cash their chips in at any time, ending the company instantly. That could happen this year, next year, by 3:00 PM today, or never. The ball is entirely in the investor's court. Just you wait. They'll fill all those senior engineering people in the closing 'vinegar-strokes' of 2019, and burst into 2020 with layering in the simple and iterable network transport layer using microservices as an abstraction layer across a software-defined model using quantums after moving to Google services. On a more serious note, they'll have quite the arc for extending more lines of credit to keep the fumes burning for a while, and I wouldn't discount the weirdly consistent money-making ability they have with people. I do think that the Canari in the coal-mine is conspicuous by her absence, though. G0RF posted:I did mention land claims to Dolvak. And his bear meme thievery. And the /Games mod deleted my post! The struggle is real, comrade. Their freedom of speech against our fully automated luxury gay space communism.
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