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Scruffpuff posted:I'm not sure this is true; I don't think there's enough sucker money to keep this afloat. They really are caught in a trap of their own creation. When early donations were hot and heavy, they set up a pattern of spending that they can't scale back from now without looking like they're failing. Yet the current burn rate is unsustainable, which is why they needed outside investment. And regardless of the Reddit peanut gallery's expert financial opinions, CIG has no actual "valuation," because they have no product - just 8 years of technical debt and hundreds of thousands of "IOUs" to backers. They've already been paid for the "product," delivered nothing, and nobody else cares or will ever care. If the Calder's investment was the only thing keeping CIG afloat, and I think this likely, then they can cash their chips in at any time, ending the company instantly. That could happen this year, next year, by 3:00 PM today, or never. The ball is entirely in the investor's court. CIG will do fine, and make enough money from idiot backers to survive for years yet. I don't think we'll see the Calders pulling their money unless Sq42 doesn't release by end of 2021. Next year I can see CIG sneaking in more microtransactions and pay2win through the jank Battlefield-ripoff. Could the Cryrekt court case sink them next summer? Possibly, but unlikely. e: https://i.imgur.com/UgkxJv8.mp4 Quavers fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Quavers posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va1XZbkCOBA OK that's embarrassingly bad. Never seen one before, don't intend to see one again.
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 oops  Stand by your convictions Shap. If you believe you're so right, why delete it at all?
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Here is an ascending list of our estimates for total fundraising as of December 1. Current: $243,505,268 - Monday, November 25th, 11:20 EST Average:$255,280,739 Median (full million): $255,000,000 ================================================= $245,150,420 - Taintrunner $246,473,284 - Beexoffel $246,512,768 - Spatial $246,948,655 - TheAgent $246,948,658 - Sandweed $247,420,069 - Thoatse $247,696,969 - Bubbacub $247,861,935 - Jobbo_Fett $248,420,069 - Dwesa $248,424,242 - monkeytek $248,457,941 - Kosumo $248,902,021 - Sabreseven $249,842,042 - The Titanic $250,000,000 - UnknownTarget $250,424,242 - Quavers $251,000,000 - zebedy $251,227,605 - Zzr $251,345,678 - Barfolemew $251,947,069 - Koil $252,020,240 - Mr.PayDay $252,080,085 - AutismVaccine $252,639,488 - DigitalPenny $253,112,149 - downout $253,284,764 - skeletors_condom $253,769,823 - Dragonrah $254,421,541 - SoMoteItBe $254,545,454 - Bootcha $254,603,497 - Peter.Quint $255,000,000 - Iceclaw $255,328,603 - jarlywarly $255,420,069 - Sanya Juutilainen $255,420,693 - Midnight Voyager $255,743,119 - precision $256,789,012 - h3isenbug $257,024,024 - Hazamuth $258,000,000 - Inacio $258,522,420 - Baxta $258,895,345 - GoingPostal $260,000,000 - Agony Aunt $260,000,001 - Blue On Blue $261,135,996 - Jonny Shiloh $261,227,605 - 1500 $262,114,501 - Differo Cathedra $262,424,244 - commando in tophat $262,426,969 - Dogeh $263,100,100 - Colostomy Bag $264,300,000 - Shazback $264,666,666 - trucutru $265,000,000 - Ponzi $265,213,721 - Kikas Sign $265,227,605 - his nibs $266,666,666 - Orions Lord $267,593,481 - Bofast $267,999,999 - Zazz Razzamatazz $275,301,250 - Dark Off (@1.1 FX) spacetoaster 1$ Zaphod42 1m Note: I might have missed someone or got something wrong. I am not running this, did it just for fun. skeletors_condom fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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you know, one thing about that ShapCap post... 'top notch security?' like why the gently caress would a game company have top notch security? Combined with the 747 thing, he's totally delusional on having joined the 0.1% by virtue of being a Star Citizen
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Spiderdrake posted:G0rf is a really good poster. I've actually enjoyed reading g0rfs posts on Reddit. He used to get some decent updoots, even with his critique. That said, I'm surprised his comment was removed by mods on /games.
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Beet Wagon posted:Call me crazy but I don't think he actually looks that bad? I haven't played it so it's hard to judge from a couple of still images but it looks like they got Cameron Monaghan pretty accurately modeled and then just sort of stylized some stuff. I can see where maybe the art direction is off-putting to folks but to me that looks way less upsetting than the Old Man Mark Hamill stuff CIG was showing off a while ago. I can't exactly point down what puts me off. I think it's the odd contrast between the ingame model and the cutscene model (the ingame model looks way worse) plus - especially in early game - a lot of missing polish. Maybe it's just on the PS4 version, but I had cutscenes in the first third of the game where whenever he blinked, there were super strange shadows like he had double eyebrows. Also the hair that constantly reminded me of a certain gif I can't find at the moment. e: found it  Seeing the post above of the actual actor, I understand that the overall look seems to be close to the real actor, but playing the game, and seeing the other actors (humans or non-humans) he somehow always stood out to me as "that's a game dude" in contrast to "that's a 3d scanned actor doing mocap". I can't remember a single cutscene where he looked as natural as the others. The game overall imo needed a couple of weeks of polish to really stand out, but I assume they had to release it to fullfill some contract stuff with Disney. Mind you, it's still way better than what CIG procuded back then or produces nowadays. ee: I also decided to no longer have hair since two years, so maybe I'm just jealous 
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Quavers posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va1XZbkCOBA It's prerendered, no rush, but they still hosed up editing so that two background guys first leave the scene and them come into it the next time they appear. Is Justin "Money" Chambers still there? 
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Quavers posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va1XZbkCOBA Why don't the spaceships have seatbelts?
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Yeah, but all of them apart from Senua also are not state of the art. ( and Senua didn't look like that ingame, but super close to it, allthough everything they did was a masterpiece, and absolutely brilliant, so don't get me wrong. It was the most impressive "AAA" game that wasn't an "AAA" game I ever saw, due to so many things [not only graphic quality]) I mean, look at Death Stranding, or - I know what I am saying now - the new Call of Duty. Developers are pushing the current console tech to the absolute limits. And CIG is years behind. tuo fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:you know, one thing about that ShapCap post... 'top notch security?' Projection is a thing. He wants there to be some 'top notch' people around because the alternative is that his money was spent on a cryengine mod and the output of seven years of Art Director. No matter how people might justify their outlay into this  game, it's still going to hurt to admit that Derek was right.Also, bringing this forward from the past because it sank without race the last time around, and I need this validation to heal my crippled Star Citizen hating soul....  1 year ago...
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haldolium posted:why though? It's on pair with all of that and goes beyond it when it comes to proper lighting, the tech demos from Mike Seymour excluded which are in no UE4 game even though "(2018)". A Plague Tale too has amazing character visuals, but all of them are not perfect. What JFO especially does best is skin shading so you don't end up with almost unlit albedo hands like in that Star Citizen video.   Went back and looked at some 4K shots, and it might just be an artstyle thing.
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My favorite part about this story is that these guys brains are so damaged by f2p-itis than the price they sold the character for ended in 888. One million is a good chunk of change tho, I bet he could have used that money to get most of the waifus in FGO or something like that. trucutru fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Scruffpuff posted:I'm not sure this is true; I don't think there's enough sucker money to keep this afloat. They really are caught in a trap of their own creation. When early donations were hot and heavy, they set up a pattern of spending that they can't scale back from now without looking like they're failing. Yet the current burn rate is unsustainable, which is why they needed outside investment. And regardless of the Reddit peanut gallery's expert financial opinions, CIG has no actual "valuation," because they have no product - just 8 years of technical debt and hundreds of thousands of "IOUs" to backers. They've already been paid for the "product," delivered nothing, and nobody else cares or will ever care. If the Calder's investment was the only thing keeping CIG afloat, and I think this likely, then they can cash their chips in at any time, ending the company instantly. That could happen this year, next year, by 3:00 PM today, or never. The ball is entirely in the investor's court. They just have to downscale their operation, it's not like it'll make a difference. When you're producing nothing of value it's the same if you do it with 500 or 300 people.
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trucutru posted:They just have to downscale their operation, it's not like it'll make a difference. When you're producing nothing of value it's the same if you do it with 500 or 300 people. Aye, not to mention they already have problems on geting hirings in a few positions. It's telling how they were pleading for AI programmers in a stream a few weeks or months ago, and the absolute poo poo AI that was shown during the Keynote demo.
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stingtwo posted:Did they even mention how many were working at cig during the con this year, this is where they boast the employee counts every drat year “300 in UK alone” (or something to that effect) was mentioned as some point, but I don't remember anything more precise than that. It was too boring to pay any real attention.
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Since it's been awhile I feel homage needs to be paid to our thread's Title Cosplayer. Just uncontrollable laughter when I see the space garbage man. It also looks like the neck shoots vape clouds.
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Tippis posted:“300 in UK alone” (or something to that effect) was mentioned as some point, but I don't remember anything more precise than that. It was too boring to pay any real attention. Someone needs to dub Sarah McLachlan's 'arms of the angel' over some of the shots from the studios. In fact, just take the whole ASPCA audio from the ads and slap it over a bunch of the panning shots from the studios. Zushio posted:Just uncontrollable laughter when I see the space garbage man. It also looks like the neck shoots vape clouds. You're laughing now, but he was hotboxing the whole time and experienced life as a sandwich. Star Citizen is breaking all kinds of new ground.
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Quavers posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va1XZbkCOBA Jesus, these people are completely creatively bankrupt. Like, that's literally just fake Jeremy Clarkson. They copied most of his face, clothing, his paunch, even his loving laugh. And then they went ahead and put the Stig in there too as if it wasn't already obvious enough. Chris has never had a single imaginative thought in his entire life.
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Regrettable posted:Jesus, these people are completely creatively bankrupt. Like, that's literally just fake Jeremy Clarkson. They copied most of his face, clothing, his paunch, even his loving laugh. And then they went ahead and put the Stig in there too as if it wasn't already obvious enough. Chris has never had a single imaginative thought in his entire life. They're playing to the crowd though - the sort of idiot who slaps the bonnet of his car when he's boasting about how fast it goes and calls it "she".
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Regrettable posted:Jesus, these people are completely creatively bankrupt. Like, that's literally just fake Jeremy Clarkson. They copied most of his face, clothing, his paunch, even his loving laugh. And then they went ahead and put the Stig in there too as if it wasn't already obvious enough. Chris has never had a single imaginative thought in his entire life. The citizens looooove that character. They even write stig intros for cig to use.
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Regrettable posted:Jesus, these people are completely creatively bankrupt. Like, that's literally just fake Jeremy Clarkson. They copied most of his face, clothing, his paunch, even his loving laugh. And then they went ahead and put the Stig in there too as if it wasn't already obvious enough. Chris has never had a single imaginative thought in his entire life. I mean, ripping off TopGear is explicitly the point. It's supposed to be 'totally epic' so that the German dad-gamers can write "that's why I love this company xD" in youtube comments
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zebedy posted:I mean, ripping off TopGear is explicitly the point. It's supposed to be 'totally epic' so that the German dad-gamers can write "that's why I love this company xD" in youtube comments Yes, but you're supposed to make subtle nods to the thing you're copying, not just reproduce a near exact copy of it. I'm one of those people who loves Top Gear and this piece of poo poo ad had me groaning the whole way through.
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Regrettable posted:Yes, but you're supposed to make subtle nods to the thing you're copying, not just reproduce a near exact copy of it. I'm one of those people who loves Top Gear and this piece of poo poo ad had me groaning the whole way through. 
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Regrettable posted:Yes, but you're supposed to make subtle nods to the thing you're copying, not just reproduce a near exact copy of it. I'm one of those people who loves Top Gear and this piece of poo poo ad had me groaning the whole way through. No, the reality is that you are supposed to make it as similar as possible without getting sued, that's the path to big money.  
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Golli posted:If I recall, Not-Clarkson made his debut at around the same time as Real-Clarkson started the Amazon series Grand Tour and CIG was implying (but never actually claiming) some deeper relationship with Amazon surrounding Lumberyard. They are masters at implying association.
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Am I wrong or did they manage to quickly remade the planets thanks to this certain tech that was just introduced to Lumberyard this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX7O9K66zbY
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echothreealpha posted:Am I wrong or did they manage to quickly remade the planets thanks to this certain tech that was just introduced to Lumberyard this year. 
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echothreealpha posted:Am I wrong or did they manage to quickly remade the planets thanks to this certain tech that was just introduced to Lumberyard this year. Also https://store.speedtree.com/speedtree-for-lumberyard/
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That PC Gamer article made me look back on one of the previous articles which resulted in me getting 'Removed' from the comments section. Even funnier to read through now...  
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