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Ghost of Mussolini posted:What do you mean by donkey vote? it's when you have a ranked choice system (so you give a preference number to some or all of the candidates), and the voter simply assigns their numbers based off the order the candidates appear on the voting form.
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Again, anyone got a source on that rights bill for candidates getting indefinitely suspended?
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Darth Walrus posted:Again, anyone got a source on that rights bill for candidates getting indefinitely suspended? I posted the source for the "will come later" yesterday, I saw a short clip from Bolivia TV this morning before work, claiming it was off the table, but I can't find it online at the moment, and can find nothing concerning the bill at all at the moment. So it clearly at best is still in the "later" stage https://twitter.com/MintPressNews/status/1199092542211575812
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megalodong posted:it's when you have a ranked choice system (so you give a preference number to some or all of the candidates), and the voter simply assigns their numbers based off the order the candidates appear on the voting form. Yeah, I used the wrong term, I guess I meant spoiled or blank ballots.
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Bolivian elections are gonna be very bigly free and fair! After the flash cards on TV showing which MAS politicians are all gonna be arrested, they started issuing actual arrest warrants: https://twitter.com/pagina_siete/status/1199306952347533312 https://twitter.com/evagolinger/status/1199134107575476225 Arrest order out for "former MAS strong man" (minister of the presidency) Juan Ramón Quintana, whose currently hiding out in the Mexican embassy. There's also twitter vids of less prominent MAS delegates being arrested and being put onto the backs of pickup trucks, but those are hard to verify. Meanwhile the galaxy brains at the atlantic https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1199323654808584192?s=19
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The Atlantic has never found a fascist they wouldn't carry water for, so that's not very surprising.
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Cerebral Bore posted:The Atlantic has never found a fascist they wouldn't carry water for, so that's not very surprising.
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So I was told to figure out the Uruguay elections and I think the outcome seems to be grim. 
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https://twitter.com/amandaguayaquil/status/1199450956737458176 Two of the small right wing parties already asked Camacho, whose civic committees like driving cars like this, to run as a "unity candidate"
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Christ. So at this point I gotta ask, when's the Wiphalanacht scheduled for?
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What's the actual story with the Nazi fetishism of the Bolvian political right. Was there a community of exiled Nazi's there or do they just admire them for getting rid of all the lefties and non-whites?
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Marenghi posted:What's the actual story with the Nazi fetishism of the Bolvian political right. Both!
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Marenghi posted:What's the actual story with the Nazi fetishism of the Bolvian political right. Literal Confederate-style slavers in the east wanted white-supremacist militias to defend themselves from uppity natives. The fash then took over the local government there after being hailed as heroes for leading a successful uprising against Morales in 2008, and started getting aggressively expansionist. Do we have any idea of who the Bolivian right are coalescing behind for the upcoming elections? Is Mesa still in the game? Does Anez still see herself as a caretaker? Has Camacho managed to snag the support of anyone important, or is he being sidelined now his usefulness has run out?
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Darth Walrus posted:Literal Confederate-style slavers in the east wanted white-supremacist militias to defend themselves from uppity natives. The fash then took over the local government there after being hailed as heroes for leading a successful uprising against Morales in 2008, and started getting aggressively expansionist. I mean, "confederate-style" kind of falls short, because these people can trace their proud "traditions" back way further. The UN report that was linked somewhere in this thread describes how they basically kept the colonial Spanish "encomienda" system around until the present. So you have the original gangsters of new world slavery plus US-employed German Nazis like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Barbie plus croatian Ustaša who found the political system very welcoming. As for who they are coalescing behind for elections, the sorta good news is that they as of yet don't seem to be united, I have seen politicians argue about who to unite behind (or if at all), social media is full of "Mesa supporters must understand that only Camacho is the way" and vice versa.
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http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/Blatant,_patent,_and_flagrant_double_standards_in_the_OAS_quote:Another almost scandalous manifestation of the double standard being applied in the OAS — and one that Secretary General Almagro has never explained — is that almost in the same words that the OAS electoral observation mission used to describe the elections of October 20 in Bolivia, another OAS electoral observer mission to Honduras in 2017 denounced the election result in that country. But neither the secretary general nor governments brought the matter to the Permanent Council, nor did they seek to conduct an audit of the election, nor did they demand new elections. I don't suppose it'd surprise anyone that the government of Honduras is in the hands of a strongly right-wing party.
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In news from Colombia, generally things have calmed down a bit. Protests are still on going. People are wondering whether protests will continue into December, but overall while being annoying, the protests have not gotten violent or as destructive as on the first few days of protests. During the first few days of protest a protestor named Dilan Cruz was hit by a tear gas canister launched by the Colombian riot police and eventually died. Reactions from protestors and the media coalesced around a de-escalation of protests. Several mayors of the larger Colombian metros' requested the Riot Police not be present at protests. Overall, unlike the Chilean situation; there seems to not be a lot of appetite for escalation of protest from either sides in the major cities. Protestors obtained some minor concessions from the President in the form of 3 tax holidays, and a tax rebate that are going to be applied to the lowest earning members of the population (about 50%) on the 19% VAT tax Colombians currently pay. But overall things seem to be at a bit of a stalemate. While president Duque does not hold a majority in congress or the senate, the tea is that former controversial paramilitary loving president, and current Senator Alvaro Uribe seems to be leaning on him to focus on social legislation, like increasing payouts to poor families via the "Familias en Accion" subsidy program that Uribe introduced during his first term of presidency. The member of the riot police who shot the tear gas canister has been charged by the nations attorney general, and Dilan's death is being processed as a murder. Just a few days ago, a soldier responsible for the murder of a demobilized ex-FARC combatant last year was sentenced to 20 years in prison (for reference the max is 30). That murder was one of a series of events that lead to these protests in the first place.
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Good news everyone, white savior Camacho has announced that he will run for president to make sure that the changes that were started are permanent and the likes of Morales and Linea will never govern Bolivia again. No campaign announcement would be complete without talking about his faith in god and the bible in the palace, of course. https://www.lostiempos.com/actualidad/pais/20191130/camacho-renuncia-al-comite-confirma-su-candidatura
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Spice World War II posted:Good news everyone, white savior Camacho has announced that he will run for president to make sure that the changes that were started are permanent and the likes of Morales and Linea will never govern Bolivia again. No campaign announcement would be complete without talking about his faith in god and the bible in the palace, of course. Assuming for a moment that God exists and the Bible is true, it is small consolation that when all LatAm’s right wingers in due course turn up at the pearly gates, St Peter will be waiting there with a nasty grin and they’ll have some loving explaining to do.
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Spice World War II posted:Good news everyone, white savior Camacho has announced that he will run for president to make sure that the changes that were started are permanent and the likes of Morales and Linea will never govern Bolivia again. No campaign announcement would be complete without talking about his faith in god and the bible in the palace, of course. Be interesting to see how much momentum he picks up. He's got at least two significant opponents on the Bolivian right who saw him as a useful weapon and won't be all that inclined to share power.
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The saddest part about the impending Bolivian elections is that when the MAS-supporting majority is suppressed and all its candidates prevented from running and some fascist wins a majority of the remaining white vote, it will be treated as definitive proof that Morales committed fraud and the coup and fascist violence was legitimate, since when a "free and fair" election was finally held the MAS vote evaporated.
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So, Añez had relieved the commander of the armed forces, General Kaliman, shortly after the coup. There was conspiracy theories around that he had been paid off and was now enjoying retirement in Miami. Turns out, it was probably something else: https://www.paginasiete.bo/segurida..._medium=twitter This article, which is of course like anything in the media in Bolivia at the moment ridiculously pro-coup, goes nevertheless into great length to describe the events on that day, even though of course in their write up it is not a coup, merely the military stepping in to save the Bolivian people from the bloodthirsty MASistas. The article lionizes General Rojas, who saved the nation by threatening Kaliman with arrest if he didn't step in front of the cameras and call for Morales to step down, and also deploy troops to put down the pro-Morales protests. Appearantly Rojas was sure of the support of the officer corps outside of the high command ("the colonels will come and arrest you all!"). The article spends a lot of paragraph with a dramatizes description of the events, and then ends on a paragraph denouncing that Kaliman was loyal to Morales by listing a bunch of quotes from 2019 which indicate support for Morales policies. The article literally talks about how heroic Rojas guy and "the colonels" were ready to arrest people unless the commander of the armed forces asked Morales to step down, and at the same time claims that clearly this was no coup Spice World War II fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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In some good news, AMLO's approval rate rose to 68% according to El Financiero, at a time where latam governments are generally unpopular (it specifically mentions Bolsonaro's support has tanked). Looks like redistributive policy is what people want (shocker), and he's delivering. Of course Reuters leads with "number didn't go up enough!!", but eh. Everyone else seems to be teetering on the edge of recession at this point. Edit: They also picked a picture that makes him look fat 
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hmm that looks like definitive proof that AMLO has corrupted Mexican democracy and must be coup'ed https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c948_story.html quote:AMLO is Mexico’s strongest president in decades. Some say he’s too strong.
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Extremely concerned about these tyrannical elected politicians building a base of loyalists by *checks notes* running for office promising to help the poor and then helping the poor.
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almost as good as the NYT's line on Morales: "The country's growing economy and shrinking inequality propped him up for years. " love 2 be "propped up" by effective leadership helping the people of my country e: the WaPo piece I linked on AMLO is in their *~objective news~* section, at least the NYT one was in opinion. Though it was by the Editorial Board, so lol
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THS posted:how long until they stop calling them AMLO loyalists and start calling then militants “Mexican coca growers, traffickers the backbone of AMLO support, Washington Post finds”
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ThanosWasRight posted:In news from Colombia, generally things have calmed down a bit. Protests are still on going. People are wondering whether protests will continue into December, but overall while being annoying, the protests have not gotten violent or as destructive as on the first few days of protests. We've been working with Newsy and local Colombian groups, including La Liga Contra el Silencio and Cerosetenta, to look into the Dilan Cruz shooting, and managed to find the officer who fired the lethal shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg944YRoQRo
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https://twitter.com/freedomrideblog/status/1201697498361974786?s=20 Apparently there is another color revolution going on in Dominica, using the same tactics honed in Hong Kong: Dominica protesters block airport roads in election fight quote:ROSEAU, Dominica — Protesters trying to cancel national elections blocked roads leading to the main airport on the eastern Caribbean island of Dominica on Tuesday, forcing passengers to drag suitcases through the street to make their flights.
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:https://twitter.com/freedomrideblog/status/1201697498361974786?s=20 I love how tankies use the term "Color Revolution" as though it self-evidently means a "fake" revolution created out of whole cloth by George Soros or something to disguise a coup. I'm not ruling out the possibility that corporations and/or another government will overthrow Dominica's government for the sake of cheaper bananas or something, but it's just as likely that this is just a normal internal electoral dispute that will be resolved nonviolently after the East Caribbean Supreme Court rules on it. Eh, who am I kidding. This is 2019; whatever happens is bound to be horrible somehow. But at the very least, it's highly unlikely that Hong Kong has anything to do with it.
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Silver2195 posted:I love how tankies use the term "Color Revolution" as though it self-evidently means a "fake" revolution created out of whole cloth by George Soros or something to disguise a coup. you start off by conceding that you don't know what's going on and it goes down from there
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:you start off by conceding that you don't know what's going on and it goes down from there He’s the same dude who cried about hypothetically taking away muh property rights from the Bolivian far right as they began purging indigenous people, he’s a full on chud.
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uninterrupted posted:He’s the same dude who cried about hypothetically taking away muh property rights from the Bolivian far right as they began purging indigenous people, he’s a full on chud. No, I objected to the suggestion that everyone right of center should be put in forced labor camps.
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Silver2195 posted:Eh, who am I kidding. This is 2019; whatever happens is bound to be horrible somehow. But at the very least, it's highly unlikely that Hong Kong has anything to do with it. it’s highly unlikely that anything has anything to do with anything, really - nothing is related to eachother in the context of an integrated world system. who can say, really
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Silver2195 posted:No, I objected to the suggestion that everyone right of center should be put in forced labor camps. lol shut the gently caress up bootlicker
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wielder posted:It is darkly hilarious when you see people on both the right and the left downplaying protests and blaming international parties for civil unrest, rather than acknowledging local tensions and concerns. no one is saying that there aren’t grievances from sectors of the population, or that the protests are totally astroturfed from the get-go. the CIA isnt giving everyone $200 to go out on the streets. where foreign support comes in is pushing it over the edge of toppling a government in favor of a more capital friendly government, where before it would remain as civil unrest
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