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KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
Did Teddy Hart miss the tournament rules since he was only on developmental deals?

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davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!

MassRafTer posted:

AJ's biggest non Obama racism is liking the tweet about Muslim refugees being invaders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezJKs7-v3Dc

Actually, he also said once on a hot mic that "since [The] Rock’s not black or white, people like that can say ‘[the N-word, only he said it]’ whenever they want.”

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

davidbix posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezJKs7-v3Dc

Actually, he also said once on a hot mic that "since [The] Rock’s not black or white, people like that can say ‘[the N-word, only he said it]’ whenever they want.”

LOL I remembered him saying it about Obama.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

Brock 110% doesn't deserve to win this poll, I'm getting charged up about this one friends. AJ is such a bigger shithead!

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

NienNunb posted:

Brock 110% doesn't deserve to win this poll, I'm getting charged up about this one friends. AJ is such a bigger shithead!

:hfive:

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
I'm glad Bix is here to bring some more detail to this prestigious second year of the NY64.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Wait, so Linda thought it was ONLY a grown man getting aroused by looking at the feet of children he was baiting with the promise of meeting pro-wrestlers? :crossarms:

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Vince is such a fascinating and awful character. Like, the vile poo poo you've seen his character do on tv isn't even in the same league as the things he's done for real.

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
USEFUL ADDITIONAL NOTES AFTER LISTENING TO THE PODCAST, NOW WITH RECEIPTS:

Benoit tried to bully either London or Kendrick into seducing a waitress while he, Jamie Noble, and the London/Kendrick partner his in the hotel closet, watched, and masturbated.

From their initial Highspots shoot, IIRC. Should be on Highspots Wrestling Network. Summaries:
https://whatculture.com/wwe/10-weirdest-real-life-wwe-friendships?page=10
http://the-w.com/brian-kendrick-paul-london-shoot-interview

Vince Sr helped cover up Mel Phillips, bragged on an FBI wiretap about threatening Dr Jerry Graham.

Graham info here, including FBI records: https://deadspin.com/fbi-records-show-vince-mcmahons-dad-caught-on-tape-brag-1793690848

Phillips thing mentioned by both Superstar Graham on Donahue (I know, but...) and Bruno Sammartino (to Jeff Savage in Penthouse) in 1992, as well as by John Arezzi at various times, including on his settle the beef podcast with Vince Russo.

Donahue video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPTCRnBEUJM

Donahue transcript: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6560722-Donahue-Transcript-03-16-92-OCR-Titangate.html

Jeff Savage article: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6560721-No-Holds-Barred-by-Jeff-Savage-Penthouse.html

John Arezzi on Mel Phillips: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6560726-John-Arezzi-on-Mel-Phillips-Pro-Wrestling.html

Linda was key in the Tom Cole cover up. At one point she said she didn't believe anymore that he was abused and that Mel Phillips just had a foot fetish that was misconstrued.

Tom Cole interview in Wrestling Perspective:
http://wrestlingperspective.com/issue/78/cole1.html
http://wrestlingperspective.com/issue/79/cole2.html

Tom Cole and Linda McMahon on News 12 Connecticut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCq8t5rDhVQ

Mike Mooneyham interview with from 1993 (listed date is incorrect; only part 2 deals with Cole):
http://www.mikemooneyham.com/1992/11/01/linda-mcmahon-part-1/
http://www.mikemooneyham.com/1992/11/08/linda-mcmahon-part-2/

Bischoff was directly accused of using racial slurs in the discrimination lawsuits on top of his institutional failure. Was successfully sued for discrimination when he basically called a certain Torch columnist/elementary school teacher a child molester. Yet he learned nothing, and 18 years later, he more or less said on his podcast that Dave Meltzer looks like a pedophile.

Racism: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6531682-Thunderbolt-Patterson-Response-to-WCW-Motion-for.html

Meltzer: Episode of 83 Weeks that dropped the week of 9/11/2018.

Bruce/Torch: I can't find the actual interview anymore, but it's discussed during his April 2000 Wrestling Observer Live appearance during my call that falls apart after that point. An Observer WCW retrospective mentioned the settlement years later, not sure which one, but Bruce has mentioned it obliquely at times. This was the line, you can see why WCW would pay up:

https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1194413668307484672

Flair was accused of martial rape in Beth's divorce filing.

Part of the infamous Grantland article: https://grantland.com/features/the-wrestler-real-life/

Hogan was privately accused of raping a Mall of America public relations staffer, sued her for extortion, she countered...and he settled?!?!?

Hogan sues: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1996-01-07-9601070379-story.html

Settlement:
Hogan book: http://bit.ly/hoganbookkennedysettlement
Court docket showing dismissal with prejudice out of nowhere on top of his admission: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/10218867/bollea-v-johnson/

Jannetty actually posted a few stories of sexually assaulting people on Wrestling Classics. The plane story is most famous, but they was also the rape by deception where had a straight friend who he told he was hooking up with a female groupie...only to find a gay guy to do it instead.

No receipts, unfortunately. It got deleted before anyone saved it. But here's an archive of the flight story, which was confirmed by others on the plane, including...Buddy Rose and one of the Bushwhackers, I think?: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=132966&page=1

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



NienNunb posted:

Brock 110% doesn't deserve to win this poll, I'm getting charged up about this one friends. AJ is such a bigger shithead!

i agree and hes loosing currently :)

davidbix
Jun 14, 2016

Wow, Bix. First K.Rool, then Steve and now SEPHIROTH? Your dream game is real!
BTW, it should be noted that we don't know the totality of what Brock told that reporter about not liking "gays." The reporter felt that most of it was too awful to print.

bartok
May 10, 2006



I voted AJ because he just gives off Sandy Hook Truther vibes. They are both racist homophobic assholes but AJ has that extra something that makes me believe he is into some Alex Jones type poo poo.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

It was fun when the stuff about the Saudi airplane fiasco came out, it was mentioned exactly one anonymous wrestler actually bought the presented story about airline difficulties, and everyone was like "Okay so this is either Seth or AJ"

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

bartok posted:

I voted AJ because he just gives off Sandy Hook Truther vibes. They are both racist homophobic assholes but AJ has that extra something that makes me believe he is into some Alex Jones type poo poo.

Good call because Styles is Alex Jones' cousin.

Biscats n Gravy
Jun 13, 2018

Smile.
I know this will only make me depressed but I'm going to have to ask this question to sate my curious nature. What did Andre the Giant do to get on this list?

Saucer Crab
Apr 3, 2009




Biscats n Gravy posted:

I know this will only make me depressed but I'm going to have to ask this question to sate my curious nature. What did Andre the Giant do to get on this list?

http://www.armpit-wrestling.com/andre-the-giant-and-bad-news-allen-almost-come-to-blows/

Racist and generally belligerent drunk.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

I just noticed Fuji was on the list. I know he was allegedly a fixer for when the boys would overdose or get up to trouble but I'm curious to hear about the specifics.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon

TheKingslayer posted:

I just noticed Fuji was on the list. I know he was allegedly a fixer for when the boys would overdose or get up to trouble but I'm curious to hear about the specifics.

Mr. Fuji cleaned up after Jimmy Snuka's little incident

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Also he carried padlocks with him and would lock people's bags onto whatever could fit a padlock

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Well one of those two things is drastically less horrific.

Armitage
Aug 16, 2005

"Mathman's not here." "Oh? Where is he?" "He's in the Mathroom."
He was the OG bag shitter

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



TheKingslayer posted:

Well one of those two things is drastically less horrific.

To a wrestler it's the same

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

TheKingslayer posted:

I just noticed Fuji was on the list. I know he was allegedly a fixer for when the boys would overdose or get up to trouble but I'm curious to hear about the specifics.

Fuji cooked dogs and fed them to people as a joke

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Smoking Crow posted:

Fuji cooked dogs and fed them to people as a joke

Big Boss Man was just stealing that act? I thought he was an innovator :(

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

TheKingslayer posted:

I just noticed Fuji was on the list. I know he was allegedly a fixer for when the boys would overdose or get up to trouble but I'm curious to hear about the specifics.

He and Muraco came to help Snuka after Nancy died. So on top of all of the other fixing and ribs there's that.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

MassRafTer posted:

He and Muraco came to help Snuka after Nancy died. So on top of all of the other fixing and ribs there's that.

This makes all those Fuji Vice bits insanely dark.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

these things are all why i think KungFu Grip should be forced to change their avatar from that image of Mr Fuji in WWF WrestleMania 2000.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
Three way dance!

https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1199382229417414659

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
I guess I’ll have to protest vote the 4 Chan alt right flavor of nazi and not the biker flavor just yet (I assume there are more biker nazis in the field) though TNA hiring the Harris twins to intimidate production staff into working for free is really hosed up.

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



That TNA picture of a Harris brother is peak something.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

I went with Dana Warrior for turning her CHUDband into a prop martyr for profit off of sick kids.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

coconono posted:

I went with Dana Warrior for turning her CHUDband into a prop martyr for profit off of sick kids.

Same.

That having been said; I can't figure out if the Harris Bros are better or worse for just owning up to being Nazis than Triple "It's the Iron Cross, it's not Nazi" H.

ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Nov 26, 2019

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



Eh, had to give it to the Harris bros just because of that time they went around showing their brand new SS tattoos to everyone in ECW, including Heyman who's mom was a holocaust survivor

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

The Harris guys thought it was smart business following Russo around so I had to deduct points for These Boys Aint Too Smart.

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
I keep looking at the bracket and i feel like Kenzo Suzuki vs Sean O'hare is the weakest match up in general? Is Kenzo only in because he accidentally killed a guy during training? IF that's the case someone like Great Khali could easily slide in there?

KungFu Grip posted:

Did Teddy Hart miss the tournament rules since he was only on developmental deals?

or a guy with multiple allegations of rape, sex trafficking, and animal abuse

hunnert car pileup
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

O'Haire getting smashed by butterbean in Pride was hilarious

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Teddy Hart's crazy didn't require Trump Fundraiser backing. Dude's just Calgary as gently caress.

bartok
May 10, 2006



For me it comes down to the Harris Twins and Dana Warrior. Mansoor is a piece of poo poo but not on that level quite yet. I say give him a year or two and he might surpass the Nazi Twins and Dana.

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Mansoor's a dork, that can be grown out of. Harris Twins and Dana both know better.

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Pinstripe Hourglass
Nov 27, 2008

=RIVER PEOPLE=
Ay yi yi! We look
like... cartoons!

Didn’t Marty also have like a 16 year old girlfriend when he was in his thirties, too

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