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Muscular Typist posted:Not a huge fan of the new icons. Maybe it's nostalgia but I feel like all they did was remove that polished feeling that Samwise was known for. Then again maybe he's gone now, I can't figure out if he retired like Metzen did. I remember this art pack on the unity asset store... No for real, this is a pointless change and most of the new ones are worse. What the heck did they do to the "build structure" logo? The three horizontal planks was iconic, literally its an icon, and now its some generic perspective hammer shot?
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Muscular Typist posted:Not a huge fan of the new icons. Maybe it's nostalgia but I feel like all they did was remove that polished feeling that Samwise was known for. Then again maybe he's gone now, I can't figure out if he retired like Metzen did. Some of these new icons are flat out worse and harder to read, what the gently caress.
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Nov 22, 2019 09:42
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I like Reincarnation and Death Pact, the rest are either pointless or hideous. E: Sheesh, what happened to that poor tiger??
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Nov 22, 2019 09:44
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The new raise dead is a terra cotta soldier because ?????? Gold mine is total rear end.
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Milo and POTUS posted:This seems like a ridiculously open ended and impossible to objectively answer question but what is the most difficult feat of micromanagement in ladder play? I mean sometimes you'll be watching a replay and see something ridiculous and you'll be like wow I could never do that in 100 years but what is the epitome of that For me it's always been zeppelin micro, watching someone perfectly rotate their army through a zeppelin to slowly take down enemy units is just so frustrating and impressive to watch at the same time.
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Nov 22, 2019 10:29
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Yeah zeppelin stunts. There's more than just dodging projectiles too, for example if you have good timing (and high latency) you can cast staff of preservation/sanctuary on your zep just before your hero is picked up and it'll activate with your hero inside, sending you home instantly without burning a TP. Standing in the way of units trying to move and blocking them for any period of time is difficult to do on purpose but easy to do by accident on your own units for some reason.
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Nov 22, 2019 10:42
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they got rid of the Captain America helmet, there goes my enthusiasm
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Milo and POTUS posted:This seems like a ridiculously open ended and impossible to objectively answer question but what is the most difficult feat of micromanagement in ladder play? I mean sometimes you'll be watching a replay and see something ridiculous and you'll be like wow I could never do that in 100 years but what is the epitome of that Muscular Typist posted:Not a huge fan of the new icons. Maybe it's nostalgia but I feel like all they did was remove that polished feeling that Samwise was known for. Then again maybe he's gone now, I can't figure out if he retired like Metzen did. Same with the "generic 3d render that looks vaguely like the old one but worse." Some of the other ones are an upgrade or sidegrade, but most of them look like a cheap knockoff and lost visual clarity & distinctiveness compared to the originals. It looks like the left is the original and the right should be the remaster for most. Stabby dagger is a positive change, lumber is too if you want lumber to have a blue glow for some reason. Without the blue glow it'd be an upgrade. Khorne fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Nov 22, 2019 |
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Nov 22, 2019 16:10
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Zaphod42 posted:The new raise dead is a terra cotta soldier because ?????? Chinese media can't show skeletons? I don't know if that's a real law but it fits Blizzard flavour at the moment.
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wording is something like undermining of national religious policy, advocating cults or superstitions So yeah no ghosts unless you bribe the right person.
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Nov 22, 2019 17:49
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Chinese media can't show skeletons? I don't know if that's a real law but it fits Blizzard flavour at the moment. There are other skulls which undermines that theory. Most of the other things with faces have been drastically redesigned to more closely resemble the new models, and the new skeleton model has that helmet, so that’s probably it. With the image so small and the helmet like that it’s not immediately obvious that’s what it’s meant to be. It’s like consistency for the sake of consistency without consideration for why certain designs might work for some things but not others.
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Nov 22, 2019 18:24
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McTimmy posted:They're trying to be different from the actual important lore heroes. Mountain King no longer looks identical to Muradin. Paladin no longer looks like Uther. Hell, even all the generic one-off Paladins now have their own models. lol why? really glad they fixed the issue war3 having iconic characters that everyone loves, by replacing them with app store game thumbnails that are impossible to tell apart
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Nov 22, 2019 19:13
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 I forgot the original had a fertility idol. Put it back you cowards. And more importantly, goddamn that human build icon losing the backdrop is going to drive me batty.
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FoolyCharged posted:And more importantly, goddamn that human build icon losing the backdrop is going to drive me batty. Now it's just the repair icon. Might be a mistake?
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ROFLburger posted:
It really does look god awful. The coolest thing about wisps was that they were mysterious, faceless, mute kindred spirits. With that said, the texture style on the new wisp heads is closer to the "Painted" look I was hoping for in Reforged. I think "Unity asset pack" is a great way to describe these realistic models.
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Nov 22, 2019 20:48
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I was really excited for this when they announced it, but goddamn it is honestly one of the most ugly and charmless games I've ever seen.  Maybe in a few years they'll patch in WC3 having a visual identity.
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It's not finished yet relax. Heroes of the storm looked worse when it first came to be as well.
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dr.acula posted:It's not finished yet relax. Heroes of the storm looked worse when it first came to be as well. That's a lot of polish to fit into a month
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Nov 23, 2019 00:35
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I suspect late in December they're going to release the game with unfinished-looking remastered units, a functional classic graphics setting, and lots of bugs. Then a few months into 2020 they'll rework some unit models, fix some bugs, and start selling skins.
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Nov 23, 2019 00:47
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Can't believe they removed captain america mask. A true tragedy.
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personally, while i agree the new graphics are not good, i don't give a poo poo because now i can play those classic hd=0 graphics but with an actual playerbase they do need to fix the hosed up client and backend tho
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FoolyCharged posted:
What's the fertility idol icon?? Like, I see it, the preg belly+tits, but what is that for in-game?? 
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Nov 23, 2019 03:33
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Tubgoat posted:What's the fertility idol icon?? Like, I see it, the preg belly+tits, but what is that for in-game?? I think it's a niche campaign icon, the only thing I can find that uses it is an item that increases a hero's intelligence by 1 in the ROC orc campaign called the "ancient figurine."
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Zaphod42 posted:The new raise dead is a terra cotta soldier because ?????? If it's the one I'm looking at, that's a zombie wearing armor. Like the ones in the Wrath cinematic. Like I don't understand the complaint in general, most of them are literally just the same but slightly fancier.
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Milo and POTUS posted:This seems like a ridiculously open ended and impossible to objectively answer question but what is the most difficult feat of micromanagement in ladder play? I mean sometimes you'll be watching a replay and see something ridiculous and you'll be like wow I could never do that in 100 years but what is the epitome of that As said, zepplin poo poo by far. Otoh, if you're new and looking for an easy one to learn, dreadlord sleep + ghoul move command surround looks slick and is effective. I missed my screen cap, but level 3 water elementals with bloodlust are comically huge. Like bigger than a town hall.
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:As said, zepplin poo poo by far. Otoh, if you're new and looking for an easy one to learn, dreadlord sleep + ghoul move command surround looks slick and is effective. Along the same lines, I vaguely remember Grubby/Tillerman/one of those guys pulling off a hero surround with 4(?) footmen and it being a big deal. My lovely carpal tunnel ridden hands can barely pull off the sleep+ghoul combo.
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:I missed my screen cap, but level 3 water elementals with bloodlust are comically huge. Like bigger than a town hall. Lmao, screen please!
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:That's a lot of polish to fit into a month I doubt this game is coming out this year I forgot to mention that part. e; in an official capacity. We'll be in early access / beta mode for another 5 or 6 months and then the game will officially release. At least I remember HoTS doing something similar.
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Icon art peaked in 2002. These are bad. Why would you throw away things like readable silhouettes in favor of some lovely additional shading? I like that they are making more unique models for things that used the same models in the original but I don't like that we lose iconic designs for the units we actually see in multiplayer. As said above, new paladin is kinda trash.
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Why are like 90% of the new icons duller than the originals? Really don't understand that at all. The old icons are in general considerably brighter and more readable as a result.
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I’m the photorealistic hand holding the cultist sacrifice dagger
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Yeah okay they handed off development to some mobile game studio and then they in turn made some mobile game graphics, but that's entirely missing the point of Reforged: Arranged Team and Random Team matchmaking is combined now. Which means you can bring a friend and search for 4v4, effectively making it a 2v4 game. Dynamic gametype with excellent results so far. Edit: Remember to play with classic graphics not just because they're nicer to look at, but also because female death knights are invisible (and unclickable) which adds to the challenge. Tower crews have dwarven infrareds though don't worry! Fiskiggy fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Zaphod42 posted:Direct comparisons: Blizz artistic memes aside, these are so well made that I wonder if they were actually made for a new RTS/warcraft game that got canned and they're just doing the blizz thing where they try to salvage assets by shoehorning them into something. Cuz those honestly don't look like they were made with a remaster of a 2002 game anywhere in mind (E posted this in the wrong thread, my bad) Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Blizz artistic memes aside, these are so well made that I wonder if they were actually made for a new RTS/warcraft game that got canned and they're just doing the blizz thing where they try to salvage assets by shoehorning them into something. Cuz those honestly don't look like they were made with a remaster of a 2002 game anywhere in mind A third person dynasty warriors hack n slash in Warcraft universe would own
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Fiskiggy posted:Yeah okay they handed off development to some mobile game studio and then they in turn made some mobile game graphics, but that's entirely missing the point of Reforged: Arranged Team and Random Team matchmaking is combined now. Which means you can bring a friend and search for 4v4, effectively making it a 2v4 game. Dynamic gametype with excellent results so far. here's the full game...it's one of those "suspenseful ones". in case you didn't read iggy's post: iggy and blinn take a 2v4 and the other team has invisible death knights
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I can't wait until this wonderful, finished product is released.
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Tubgoat posted:Are the DKs supposed to be invisible and noncorporeal?? It's a bug. From my understanding they added new female death knight models with the new graphics, but didnt account for the old graphics not having those. So the game cant find a model to render and thus interact with.
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Wait, so you got TFT "classic" players B.netting ladder vs Reforged players?
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