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What's the origin of the use of the Dr. honorific in lucha libre?
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Nov 25, 2019 02:47
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rujasu posted:Sure, but they're rare. They might as well say, "The following contest is not a cage match!" There are half a dozen every night of the week.
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Nov 25, 2019 02:48
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Gaz-L posted:My ringside confession is that I kinda like the King Of The Mountain match. For some reason I think they're actually a lot more entertaining than they should be on paper. I think its because fundamentally the forced drama of climbing a ladder to get the belt is the same as climbing a ladder with the belt. Its all the same spots and psychology and basically ends the same way. And the penalty box is funny in a mostly intentional way.
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Nov 25, 2019 02:56
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At the end of the day the KOTM is basically mashing up a Texas Deathmatch (you gotta pin a guy before the special win condition triggers) with a ladder match. Like, if the belt was already at the top, I guarantee people would whine way less.
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Nov 25, 2019 03:06
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I mean, its objectively dumb so I wouldn't accuse people of "whining". It just somehow works out better than it should. Its like that time Don Callis introduced the Ultimate X match as inspired by his laundry drying on a clothing line.
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Nov 25, 2019 03:28
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Gaz-L posted:At the end of the day the KOTM is basically mashing up a Texas Deathmatch (you gotta pin a guy before the special win condition triggers) with a ladder match. Like, if the belt was already at the top, I guarantee people would whine way less. And a penalty box.
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Nov 25, 2019 03:34
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MassRafTer posted:And a penalty box. Sorry, i should've said it's better than just a combo.
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Nov 25, 2019 03:48
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forkboy84 posted:When did wrestling fans start repeating "one fall"? To my knowledge it started during a NXT Taping in Full Sail, they recorded so many episodes and the crowd was getting restless so they just keep echoing the "ONE FALL" at the later part of the recordings, and slowly, that became a thing to the point of the announcer takes a break during takeover events to let the crowd say "ONE FALL" I like it when paired with a time limit - "the following contest is set for one fall with a twenty minute time limit..." i think its annoying, but then again most WWE audiences put themselves over because there isn't anything to really do. When I last checked up, "Fandangoing" was a thing.
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Nov 25, 2019 04:15
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The "one fall" chant has been a thing in BritWres long before NXT fans picked it up; I remember the York Hall crowd for those first few Summer Sizzler shows with NJPW would yell it loud and proud before every match.
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Nov 25, 2019 04:24
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Pollyanna posted:Do independent wrestling promotions also scope out storylines and plan matches and stuff? I feel like that would be harder when you are dependent on random indie wrestlers who may or may not be available. Are those matches real? PWR did a year-long story that was based on the silliest in-joke. In the pre-show, there is a masked jobber stable named El Consejo de Trabajadores (basically, The Council of Jobbers) who is led by Trabajador Supremo, a wheelchair-bound fat man with mic skills suspiciously similar to a main roster member (spoiler: they're the same person). They claim to "work in the shadows so that those in the light may shine" so you know what they're going for. But there was this Trabajador who dared to win: Quatro. After showing some incredible skills and almost winning his match, Supremo punished him for daring to step into the light by having the rest of the Trabajadors beat him down. But Trabajador Quatro started to win his pre-show matches. He was just drat good (he has a slick Destino as his finisher). So Supremo decides to personally face him at the promotion's biggest show of the year, (where the light is strongest, casting the deepest shadows), granting him the power to walk and wrestle. In that match, Supremo's might was almost too much for Quatro, who was unmasked, but he managed to scrape a win. After the match, Supremo proclaimed him to be The Lightbringer, The One Destined to Shine, and he graduated to the main show, eventually becoming champion a year later. One of the most satisfying storylines I've seen, and it was told entirely over the pre-show of an indie promotion!
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Nov 25, 2019 05:12
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Why are there heel commentators? It sucks to have hear a bad faith arguments over and over again. Part of the reason I like AEW commentary is that it's basically a non-partisan focus on making what you're watching entertaining and understandable. (Except JR burying things he doesn't like, but even that feels better than supporting the villain).
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Nov 25, 2019 07:37
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Are there any matches where the stipulation was "Multiple refs at ringside to make sure the heels don't cheat after a ref bump" and if yes how did the heels manage to cheat?
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Nov 25, 2019 07:43
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CHaKKaWaKka posted:Are there any matches where the stipulation was "Multiple refs at ringside to make sure the heels don't cheat after a ref bump" and if yes how did the heels manage to cheat? Only thing I can recall immediately is the match where Shane and Daniel Bryan were both reffing the match and kept getting in each other's way and eventually fighting.
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Nov 25, 2019 07:49
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i was at a chikara show in 08 where a finish was blown early on in the night and a visual pinfall happened that wasn't supposed to. the rest of the night would be "this contest is set for one fall..." "TWO FALLS!"
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Nov 25, 2019 12:41
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fez_machine posted:Why are there heel commentators? It sucks to have hear a bad faith arguments over and over again. Because Bobby Heenan and Jesse Ventura were goddamn Gods when it came to heel commentary, with Lawler being a distant second (well, third I suppose). And they will be forever trying to recapture that. Heel Cole proved that these endeavors have hitherto been unsuccessful.
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Nov 25, 2019 14:00
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Heel Cole would have been fine if he wasn't also the pbp guy. He should have been a manager, imo, after revealing how heelish he could be. Managers are too pro wrasslin', though.
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Nov 25, 2019 14:06
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Smoking Crow posted:ONE FALL! is so bad One fall is great. It encourages the crowd to make noise, it's not intrusive like counting ahead of the ref, it's not during the match. It's the perfect 'THE MATCH IS GOING TO START AND YOU ARE PART OF IT' notification to fans.
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Nov 25, 2019 14:27
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Heel Michael Cole should have been the anonymous GM. They teased it a few times but didn’t follow through.
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Nov 25, 2019 14:31
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Schneider Heim posted:PWR did a year-long story that was based on the silliest in-joke. That fat man is a good friend of mine and wrote this storyline hahaha Check out his entrance everyone https://youtu.be/xMSWVmJcMYM
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Nov 25, 2019 15:24
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Low Desert Punk posted:What's the origin of the use of the Dr. honorific in lucha libre? Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Nov 25, 2019 15:39
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Schneider Heim posted:PWR did a year-long story that was based on the silliest in-joke. Oh my god
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Nov 25, 2019 17:16
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Web Jew.0 posted:That fat man is a good friend of mine and wrote this storyline hahaha me gusta
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Nov 25, 2019 17:24
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I'm bad with money, so if I want to buy like old NWA/WCW wrestling figures or japanese ones is all just ebay or are there any other good sites that sell them? (I'm in europe for shipping purposes)
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Nov 25, 2019 19:53
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MrBling posted:I'm bad with money, so if I want to buy like old NWA/WCW wrestling figures or japanese ones is all just ebay or are there any other good sites that sell them? Highspots for puro guys http://www.highspots.com/c/Japanese-Figures.html Also https://www.entertainmentearth.com/product/new-japan-prowrestling-ultimates-kazuchika-okada-action-figure/sup80670 El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Nov 25, 2019 |
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Nov 25, 2019 20:31
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MrBling posted:I'm bad with money, so if I want to buy like old NWA/WCW wrestling figures or japanese ones is all just ebay or are there any other good sites that sell them? Toudoukan is in Japan and is like the holy grail of wresting shops: https://www.toudoukan.com/@en/ I think they'll ship if you order enough stuff and they're adding new stock literally ever day. Lots of cool finds as far as figures go. When I was visiting for Wrestle Kingdom I got an out-of-box Hayabusa and a still-in-box Minoru Suzuki vs Jushin Liger Pancrase X New Japan set. You'll find many things you don't need and everything you want.
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Nov 25, 2019 20:45
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I know it'll be hard to choose because they were all perfect: what is Mr. Perfect's best match?
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Nov 26, 2019 00:00
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I know it'll be hard to choose because they were all perfect: what is Mr. Perfect's best match? vs Butt "The Shitman" Fart at Summerslam
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Nov 26, 2019 00:16
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CM Punk is the real shitman
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Nov 26, 2019 00:46
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Admiral Joeslop posted:I know it'll be hard to choose because they were all perfect: what is Mr. Perfect's best match? Flair-Perfect Loser Leaves WWF.
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Nov 26, 2019 00:46
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MrBling posted:I'm bad with money, so if I want to buy like old NWA/WCW wrestling figures or japanese ones is all just ebay or are there any other good sites that sell them? You might want to go to your local comic con when it comes around. I've definetly seen old NWA/WCW figures there in the past. 80s toys are always well represented in the dealer halls, though a lot of it is Star Wars. (This was in Belgium)
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Nov 26, 2019 11:35
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Since UltraMantis Black adopted his current name, have they ever done an angle with an UltraMantis Red or Gold or whatever?
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Nov 26, 2019 16:47
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Halloween Jack posted:Since UltraMantis Black adopted his current name, have they ever done an angle with an UltraMantis Red or Gold or whatever? Over a dozen ants, but only one mantis.
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Nov 26, 2019 19:12
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UltraMantis Black also probably has the best shirts going. I can wear them in public and not feel like a wrestleweirdo. Just a regular old weirdo.
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Nov 26, 2019 19:18
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Von Linus posted:One fall is great. It encourages the crowd to make noise, it's not intrusive like counting ahead of the ref, it's not during the match. It's the perfect 'THE MATCH IS GOING TO START AND YOU ARE PART OF IT' notification to fans. Also a good barometer on how hot a crowd is. I imagine it's useful for the wrestlers to determine if they need to fight to get the crowd back.
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Nov 26, 2019 21:56
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The Rey and Dominic stuff had me thinking, what were the biggest matches (McMahon family aside) that featured parent vs child? Were there any title feuds? Off the top of my head I can think of Paige's family, but not sure what else.
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Nov 26, 2019 22:04
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Does OSW ever stop doing slurs/racism/misogyny/rape jokes? I like the videos otherwise and this poo poo is really wearing on my nerves.
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Nov 26, 2019 22:17
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Does OSW ever stop doing slurs/racism/misogyny/rape jokes? I like the videos otherwise and this poo poo is really wearing on my nerves.
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Nov 26, 2019 23:04
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I think they've gotten better about it over the last couple years. If I had to guess I'd say it was Jay either telling the other two to tone it down or just editing more of that stuff out than he used to.
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Nov 26, 2019 23:10
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spongeh posted:The Rey and Dominic stuff had me thinking, what were the biggest matches (McMahon family aside) that featured parent vs child? Were there any title feuds? Off the top of my head I can think of Paige's family, but not sure what else. Can we count any match featuring Yuji Nagata and a Young Lion, since he's their WrestleDad? 
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Nov 26, 2019 23:42
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The Great Kabuki and Great Muta were not actually related but billed as father and son. Things got pretty wild. https://twitter.com/MrLARIATO/status/952269085601095682
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Nov 26, 2019 23:55
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