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Man, people have joked about making the UK a new US state but I didn't think it'd be like this! Edit: 355 tweets is the amount Laura Kussenberg will make covering for the Tories before she's fired.
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Is there any word on how these documents leaked yet? I'm not surprised at all that the NHS is in fact, 'on the table' despite the government's claims to the opposite.
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Kuensbergg appears to have been fed the lines already. She's saying the document doesn't mention that any specific minister was involved so we can toss the whole thing out lol. With a dollop of retweeting Piers Morgan about anti-Semitism to boot. The fact she's already trying to spin this means the document probably has legs.
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Barry Foster posted:Interesting, I kinda came to spiritual traditions through Spinoza too but only on the most cliché and surface level 'boy there's a lot of similarities between his thought and Indian traditions' - what did you disagree with/what conclusions did you come to? At risk of doxxing myself I wrote a thesis on Spinoza's version of the ontological argument and how to interpret Spinoza's concept of substance. Now Spinoza has a tendency to look at substance as being constituted of numerous aspects of which mind and matter are only two. Thus there's one substance but with two aspects. Where I think I parted ways with Spinoza was on the point of this meaning that everything needs to resolve to a single substance - I used to believe this before I wrote the thesis, but Kant makes compelling arguments against the idea that all facets of existence necessarily need to come to a unity in a single object: he describes this as a bias towards "the ideal of pure reason". But broadly speaking I thought Spinoza's view of substance was in line with my intuitions about the universe (as well as offering a compelling solution to the mind-body problem). If you tweak a panentheist view away from a single substance which is God to an infinite number of substances, which collectively and in their interactions we might describe as 'God' then you get to something close to the Daodejing. Laotze posted:All the ten thousand things arise, and I see them return. Now they bloom in bloom but each one homeward returneth to its root.Returning to the root means rest. It signifies the return according to destiny. Return according to destiny means the eternal. Knowing the eternal means enlightenment. Not knowing the eternal causes passions to rise; and that is evil. This also gives a pretty solid metaphysical basis for performing rituals and other "worldly" religious acts, which I feel a lot of secular Buddhism in the West lacks. So one major motivation for heading to Asia is to look at how daily religious experience and overall pantheism can interact in a cohesive way.
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She needs the loving sack, LauraK is a disgrace.
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Gonzo McFee posted:At this point Corbyn could release footage of Boris Johnson singing "Send the buggers back" while wearing blackface with a bone through his nose and they'd try to get the topic back to antisemitism. They just don't give a gently caress.
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Rarity posted:Well this is a nice way to wash away all the poo poo from yesterday I was out of the loop, what happened yesterday?
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I wonder if they were specifically saving it as a comeback for whenever they decided to go full antisemitism.
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Leggsy posted:Kuensbergg appears to have been fed the lines already. She's saying the document doesn't mention that any specific minister was involved so we can toss the whole thing out lol. With a dollop of retweeting Piers Morgan about anti-Semitism to boot. can't wait for her to tweet about having food poisoning after she has to eat US food
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kanonvandekempen posted:I was out of the loop, what happened yesterday? They wheeled out the chief rabbi again to whinge about how jeremy corbyn is a megahitler.
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kanonvandekempen posted:I was out of the loop, what happened yesterday? Chief Rabbi said Corbyn was antisemitic
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Jose posted:can't wait for her to tweet about having food poisoning after she has to eat US food lol only plebs get chemical washed chicken in a can. https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1199643626487369728 hmm i wonder who they got to do that
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I feel like this might be of interest to several posters ITT if they happen to be in London at the weekend:quote:Bishopsgate Institute is home to the UK Leather and Fetish Archive, a national collection documenting the history and heritage of the leather, rubber, BDSM and fetish communities, and is committed to increasing holdings relating to kink and fetish history in the UK.
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Purple Prince posted:At risk of doxxing myself I wrote a thesis on Spinoza's version of the ontological argument and how to interpret Spinoza's concept of substance. Now Spinoza has a tendency to look at substance as being constituted of numerous aspects of which mind and matter are only two. Thus there's one substance but with two aspects. Cool stuff, cheers man. I've never managed to really get my head around Kant, but I'll take your word for it!
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Barry Foster posted:Cool stuff, cheers man. I've never managed to really get my head around Kant, but I'll take your word for it!
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lol @ how dare you question the mighty journalists presuming to know what's good for you shut up and take the news you're given filthy plebs.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:08
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Gonzo McFee posted:lol only plebs get chemical washed chicken in a can. gh0stpinballa posted:https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1199638353903312896?s=19 It's 10pm here in Aus right now, but uh, this seems like it's going to be a massive day in british politics. I half expect to wake up and find out that you've nuked each other, and trump's just sitting there nodding "it needed to be done, too many spies in Britain"
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Nov 27, 2019 12:10
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All these journalists have had less than an hour to read a 450 page technical document and they're all completely certain it's not a big deal. Just full mask off. Half of them are literally saying "I've not read it but it's not a big deal..." Good on labour for literally cutting out the middle man and just straight 'doing journalism'; says a lot that they didn't feel they could push this through normal media channels as you would have done ten years ago.
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gh0stpinballa posted:https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1199638353903312896?s=19 spotted this in the replies https://twitter.com/Conniemhward/status/1199639255804530688?s=20 hmm what's that on the butcher's apron  lol
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tithin posted:It's 10pm here in Aus right now, but uh, this seems like it's going to be a massive day in british politics. I half expect to wake up and find out that you've nuked each other, and trump's just sitting there nodding "it needed to be done, too many spies in Britain" Eh, I'm a bit skeptical that it'll go far tbh but it might take up some of today and it's probably good fodder for labour's base.
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Jose posted:lol at this spin Aye he was only the Foreign secretary at the time. No chance he'd have been involved in talks with a foreign country.
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Jose posted:lol at this spin Just when he was foreign secretary then. Comments already trying to say there's references to 2019 as well lol
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Gonzo McFee posted:Aye he was only the Foreign secretary at the time. No chance he'd have been involved in talks with a foreign country. the document also explicity goes to 2019 lol
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Labour need to start responding to the AS smears by mentioning the two hundred academics, the response to the chief rabbi by other Jewish leaders, and frame it as a show of support from members of the community and that they will continue to strive to serve their needs. I mean what are journos meant to say in response, these Jews don't count because? They have prominent Jewish people coming out to bat for them. They can't use them as a shield from criticism, but occasionally mentioning that there are actual, respected Jewish people on their side would be a good thing.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:17
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Nov 27, 2019 12:18
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Jose posted:lol at this spin It's irrelevant if he wasn't PM at the time, the party was in power and it's the party that drove it. Imbeciles. OwlFancier posted:Eh, I'm a bit skeptical that it'll go far tbh but it might take up some of today and it's probably good fodder for labour's base. You'd know better than me, but I'm looking at it from the outside in and my response is "oh poo poo, that's BIG"
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Nov 27, 2019 12:18
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https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1199639844097531904 "The fact that you found my second phone that I use for my affairs with your sister only shows that you can't be trusted and I think you should apologise."
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tithin posted:You'd know better than me, but I'm looking at it from the outside in and my response is "oh poo poo, that's BIG" The document doesn't outright say in black and white "hi I'm boris johnson and I want to let donald trump turn your hospital into a golf course in exchange for magic beans" so the press response is gonna be muted. It's gonna be more of a social media thing, with everyone arguing about how the press are liars. Which itself isn't bad for labour but it's not a slam dunk or anything. The press don't do journalism, they do the most infantile primary school gotchas. If it involves reading they won't do it.
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Anyone have a clip of Barry Gardiner waving the papers around and saying "It doesn't take 6 meetings and 540 pages to say no to selling the NHS" Because that's one hell of a slogan.
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God the journalist response is making me so furious. Just the most mealy-mouthed spinning and peddling.
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Nov 27, 2019 12:24
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RockyB posted:E: Braggart Nice piece of fish posted:gently caress you loving got me again, just those loving squirrels keep making me laugh.  goddamnedtwisto posted:Should have gone with "It was outside interference from a foreign power calling themselves белка" or something like that to tap into the inevitably "Jo; is only not Prime Minister because of Russian interference" narrative that I'm certain we're going to be hearing come the 13th. Nah, I wanted to drop the hammer really suddenly  But you should write that one  Hope you all enjoyed reading that. I certainly enjoyed writing it
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