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IceAgeComing
Jan 29, 2013

pretty fucking embarrassing to watch
Another big mother-daughter one is Kyoko Kimura’s retirement show which a pair of matches with her and Hana in it. First was the two of them teaming with ISAO (some MMA dude I think) vs what I’ve called TEAM loving SCARY (Meiko Satomura, Aja Kong and Minoru Suzuki); and then after that Kyoko’s actual farewell match was against Hana. They teamed together before but that was the biggest stage the two had.

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Why is Hiro Matsuda not in the Observer Hall of Fame?

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Lid posted:

Why is Hiro Matsuda not in the Observer Hall of Fame?

what makes him hall of fame worthy

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

STONE COLD 64 posted:

what makes him hall of fame worthy

as a trainer

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



I got two random little questions:

1. What is Raven's accent? I know it's just his regular real life accent, I just don't know what it is and it's so thick I always notice it.

2. How legitimately impressive are power moves? Think the hanging vertical suplex or press slam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvytrosXRI

How much of this is the strength of the lifter and how much is just the other wrestler jumping or holding themselves up?

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE

NikkolasKing posted:

I got two random little questions:

1. What is Raven's accent? I know it's just his regular real life accent, I just don't know what it is and it's so thick I always notice it.

It's a Philly/Jersey accent since that's where he's from.

Punch McLightning
Sep 19, 2005

you know what that means




Grimey Drawer

Lid posted:

as a trainer

Off the top of my head, I'm not aware of anyone in the WON HoF solely or primarily for being a trainer.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Diablo Velasco is the only one. There are others, but they were champions in their own right, like Kowalski.

...but Matsuda definitely trained guys of the same caliber as Velasco, so it's a worthy argument.

Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Nov 27, 2019

Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013
What does everyone think the Wrestlemania main event for 2020 will be?

Can anybody predict the main event of night 2 at Wrestle Kingdom? We could theoretically have Okada v White, Okada v Naito, Ibushi v White, Ibushi v Naito.

FunMerrania
Mar 3, 2013

Blast Processing

NikkolasKing posted:

2. How legitimately impressive are power moves? Think the hanging vertical suplex or press slam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvytrosXRI

How much of this is the strength of the lifter and how much is just the other wrestler jumping or holding themselves up?

Hanging vertical isn't that hard just takes good core strength from both parties(if both are relatively the same size.)

Press Slam is much harder and depends on how it's set up, if the guy can jump into it and you got a very good push press it can be done. In that video Crush straight up OHP's undertaker who barely helping him at all so yeah that's loving impressive.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:

What does everyone think the Wrestlemania main event for 2020 will be?

Can anybody predict the main event of night 2 at Wrestle Kingdom? We could theoretically have Okada v White, Okada v Naito, Ibushi v White, Ibushi v Naito.

Okada vs. Naito is the most common assumption.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


WM main event is gonna be Roman / Brock again lmao

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

Pillbug

GEORGE W BUSHI posted:

Okada vs. Naito is the most common assumption.

Naito's finally gonna get his win!

(naito is not, in fact, finally gonna get his win)

Burn Down Canberra
Oct 27, 2005

GAME PLANS? We don't need no stinking game plans.

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Naito v Okada is by far the biggest match they have to move tickets. They have protected it to an extreme degree going a whole two years without running it. Its the most likely match up.

Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

Burn Down Canberra posted:

Naito v Okada is by far the biggest match they have to move tickets. They have protected it to an extreme degree going a whole two years without running it. Its the most likely match up.

It's true it's the biggest match they have, but if I think the venue will sell out before the 1/5 main event is known so it won't exactly sell tickets. Unless people are just assuming that it's Okada/Naito.

CopywrightMMXI
Jun 1, 2011

One time a guy stole some downhill skis out of my jeep and I was so mad I punched a mailbox. I'm against crime, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Wrestlemania will either be Rollins vs Punk and Bray vs Roman or Rollins vs Reigns and Brock vs Cain 2. Maybe Rousey vs Becky again too.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Hellblazer187 posted:

It's true it's the biggest match they have, but if I think the venue will sell out before the 1/5 main event is known so it won't exactly sell tickets. Unless people are just assuming that it's Okada/Naito.

A: People will assume that and B: Walk-ups are way more common in Japan, so there could easily still be a few thousand cheap seats left for Sunday by the time the Saturday show ends.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Punch McLightning posted:

Off the top of my head, I'm not aware of anyone in the WON HoF solely or primarily for being a trainer.

Karl Gotch. Even in his write up, Dave says he never really did anything as a wrestler

That said, Rey Mysterio Sr should be in as a trainer

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

NikkolasKing posted:

I got two random little questions:


2. How legitimately impressive are power moves? Think the hanging vertical suplex or press slam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TvytrosXRI

How much of this is the strength of the lifter and how much is just the other wrestler jumping or holding themselves up?

It's all relative to the person taking it generally so if the person you're lifting is good at jumping and posting it'll be easier and if you are super strong you can also make up for it pretty easily.

I have a pretty weak upper body/core at the moment and I can pump handle slam/bodyslam/verical suplex small people but I couldn't do any of those to someone who can't jump for poo poo.

technique for alot of these is also very important, which is why super old wrestlers can still do alot of power moves.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

IceAgeComing posted:

TEAM loving SCARY (Meiko Satomura, Aja Kong and Minoru Suzuki);

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Is Waltman actually bigger than Michaels, especially in their prime? He was always thought of as the little guy of the group but I'm not so sure.

Nash has apparently insisted that Shawn was over 6 feet tall, possibly to justify his heightism for being a star, but nobody else seems to believe that.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

shawn michaels is like 5' 10"

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

Alaois posted:

shawn michaels is like 5' 10"

Oh nononono

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

Alaois posted:

shawn michaels is like 5' 10"

Lookit dis dood

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
TOMMY DREAMER VS PRIME TIME BRIAN LEE, IT'S HIGH INCIDENT

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


NikkolasKing posted:

Is Waltman actually bigger than Michaels, especially in their prime? He was always thought of as the little guy of the group but I'm not so sure.

Nash has apparently insisted that Shawn was over 6 feet tall, possibly to justify his heightism for being a star, but nobody else seems to believe that.

As seen here, Waltman looks taller, but Shawn is definitely bulkier.

Latter-era Shawn was probably as skinny as Waltman.

Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013
Are there any finishing moves that have never been kicked out of? Judas Effect got me thinking about this and I'm sure it'll be a decade or so before somebody is able to kick out of that move.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
i'm trying to find a promo where Chris Jericho called someone "Bublelu Glanah" in a mumbled voice. the only thing i can find on google is a post that i myself made in 2016 referencing it after Jericho did the Jimmin Marvin-Luder promo. i don't know how to spell Bublelu Glanah and it's very hard to search for it online. does anyone else remember this promo. i think Jericho is introducing someone and says they were trained by Bublelu Glanah.

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:

Are there any finishing moves that have never been kicked out of? Judas Effect got me thinking about this and I'm sure it'll be a decade or so before somebody is able to kick out of that move.

Burning hammer

Kosmo Gallion
Sep 13, 2013

Drew McIntyre posted:

i'm trying to find a promo where Chris Jericho called someone "Bublelu Glanah" in a mumbled voice. the only thing i can find on google is a post that i myself made in 2016 referencing it after Jericho did the Jimmin Marvin-Luder promo. i don't know how to spell Bublelu Glanah and it's very hard to search for it online. does anyone else remember this promo. i think Jericho is introducing someone and says they were trained by Bublelu Glanah.

This sounds like something 1998 Jericho would have introduced his Cruiserweight opponents as.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008

don't know if this helps but you could try spelling it in all the different ways you can come up with. i searched Booblelu Glanna and it came up with a few pornography links. keep on trucking

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

spongeh posted:

The Rey and Dominic stuff had me thinking, what were the biggest matches (McMahon family aside) that featured parent vs child? Were there any title feuds? Off the top of my head I can think of Paige's family, but not sure what else.
Dusty and Dustin spent some time not on the same page but apparently never wrestled each other during Dustin's first WCW run.

I know Jerry Lawler and Brian Christopher/Lawler feuded in Memphis but I don't know the history well enough to know if they acknowledged (even winkingly) that Brian was his kid; I know they spent the bulk of Brian's WWE run only in-joke acknowledging it until long after either guy was wrestling regularly.

Ric and David Flair had a number of really bad matches (often involving Vince Russo as a wrestler) in 2000 WCW.

Chavo Guerrero beat his son for the cruiserweight belt but that was at the point the entire CW division was bordering on the 24/7 belt in terms of jobber comedy so I don't think it counts as a big match or a feud.

There seems to be some big online buzz for a match-up between Dana Brooke and her daddy Batista.

The Senator Giroux
Jul 9, 2006
Dead Ringer

Cavauro posted:

don't know if this helps but you could try spelling it in all the different ways you can come up with. i searched Booblelu Glanna and it came up with a few pornography links. keep on trucking

Can I get those links? Just to make sure I avoid them in my search of course.

Wise Fwom Yo Gwave
Jan 9, 2006

Popping up from out of nowhere...


The Senator Giroux posted:

Can I get those links? Just to make sure I avoid them in my search of course.

Here’s the tip: Glanna gets autocorrected. Welcome to ten years ago?

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2ndIhkA_ss

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

I wanna get a month of Stardom World. Is there anything particular I oughtta seek out on it?

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Nehru the Damaja posted:

I wanna get a month of Stardom World. Is there anything particular I oughtta seek out on it?

Mayu Iwatani vs. Io Shirai from December 22nd 2016 is the match that got me into joshi

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Nehru the Damaja posted:

I wanna get a month of Stardom World. Is there anything particular I oughtta seek out on it?

Momo vs Tam Nakano (1/14)
Momo vs Jungle Kyona (3/3)
Momo Watanabe vs. Utami Hayashishita (4/5)
Arisa Hoshiki, Mayu Iwatani, Saki Kashima & Tam Nakano vs. Andras Miyagi, Jamie Hayter, Kagetsu & Martina (4/5)
Toni Storm vs. Momo Watanabe (5/4)
Momo Watanabe vs. Arisa Hoshiki (5/16)
Momo Watanabe vs. AZM (9/7)
Mayu Iwatani vs. Momo Watanabe (9/22)
Bea Priestley vs. Mayu Iwatani (11/4)

If you have extra time

Kagetsu vs. Jungle Kyona (1/14)
Hazuki vs. AZM (2/17)
Toni Storm vs. Tam Nakano (5/3)

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

Awesome. If I can ever get past the subscription screen, I will seek these out. (It doesn't want to accept either card I have, I've tried in both languages, and with date in both orders.)

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NikkolasKing
Apr 3, 2010



Why didn't Ken Shamrock take off more in WWF? Everybody knows him and he certainly had presence as a character and in the ring He wouldn't have been top guy with Rock and Austin there but he wasn't even a main eventer or a sort of main eventer.

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