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Accepting 'cis' as a valid term requires acknowledging trans people exist. That is unacceptable to them. It's not exactly rocket science.
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Ok, Cister.
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Nov 28, 2019 06:27
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Jurgan posted:Some think it’s an acronym. Commonwealth of Independent States Russia strikes again
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Nov 28, 2019 06:28
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They're not cis, they're normal. Please do not put labels on them.
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Nov 28, 2019 06:31
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RoboRodent posted:I mean, I'm still in favour of responding to "what is cis it must be a slur" with "I guess you haven't been in a science classroom ever huh" because cis/trans is just the most basic of organic chemistry terms. And they certainly didn't originate with chemistry. "Cis-" is a Latin prefix meaning "on this side of". It's the opposite of "trans-", which just means "on the other side of". Both have turned up in many places over the thousands of years they've been in use. Transjordan is the land on the other (east) side of the Jordan river. "Cisalpine" means to be to the south (Roman) side of the Alps. Cislunar space is the area inside the orbit of the Moon. Et cetera, et cetera.  "EXCUSE ME I AM NOT IN CIS-LUNAR SPACE, THAT IS CULT TALK, I'M JUST IN SPACE, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE"
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Nov 28, 2019 06:34
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Sagebrush posted:i think yeah that was the lady who wrote all the books about mandalorians and was unusually obsessed with their culture, which was basically entirely just her fanfic because no one else ever wrote about them. so they were all super hetero and no gay mandalorians ever existed. all of those are the dronrider of pern lady.
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Nov 28, 2019 06:43
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It's still a lovely thing to do to someone (both someones, actually) but I'm glad it worked out and they had a good time. They didn't do anything to anyone 2 lesbians signed up for a blind date program and got paired up.
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Nov 28, 2019 08:30
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RoboRodent posted:I'm curious as to what sort of definition of "cis" these people use in order to conclude that it's derogatory, but that's not a thing I want to especially have in my search history, and it's probably just "it implies I'm equal to a trans person" anyway. These are the people who think boomer is a slur. Same crowd.
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Nov 28, 2019 08:54
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Today I learned about Elagabalus, a Roman emperor who may* have been trans. *obviously diagnosing someone as having gender dysphoria post-mortem and millennia before the diagnosis existed at a time when history was not quite the discipline it is today is kind of a crapshoot
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Nov 28, 2019 09:26
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Nov 28, 2019 09:59
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It's still a lovely thing to do to someone (both someones, actually) but I'm glad it worked out and they had a good time. That sounds nice. They should have gone on a fecundate.
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Nov 28, 2019 10:50
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Mak0rz posted:Accepting 'cis' as a valid term requires acknowledging trans people exist. That is unacceptable to them. It's not exactly rocket science. 
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Nov 28, 2019 13:34
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Manuel Calavera posted:These are the people who think boomer is a slur. Same crowd. To wit, this literally just got frothed out at me on another forum regarding a hockey coach repeatedly saying the n-word at a player after I chastised some hot boomer takes:  Not only is Boomer on par with the n-word, apparently it also has a censored version.
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Nov 28, 2019 14:08
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christmas boots posted:Today I learned about Elagabalus, a Roman emperor who may* have been trans. There were Mexican Revolution war heroes that were transmen. They used the war as an excuse to transition (not medically because it was the 1900's, but socially). One of them even married a lady and was respected in his little village*. Of course his family shat on him when he died and invented a story of how he considered himself always "a woman" because god and transphobic crap. *The guy shot some idiot that mocked and misgendered him, and made the idiot a warning to anyone else who dare to do the same.
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Nov 28, 2019 14:56
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christmas boots posted:Today I learned about Elagabalus, a Roman emperor who may* have been trans. Oh man last time I looked at it Elagabalus's wikipedia page was a terrible battleground of bad edits and citations by people who really really want Elagabalus to be trans and people who really really don't want Elagabalus to be trans, to the extent that they were fighting over English pronouns for someone who lived centuries before any of those pronouns even existed. Like, fine, I get that you don't want historical trans erasure, but if you're going to respect Elagabalus's self-identification, you need to make sacrifices to him as the incarnation of the Syrian sun god Sol Invictus. Also of all of the Emperors to get obstinately obsessed about defending who picks Elagabalus.
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Nov 28, 2019 15:09
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Grraarrgghh posted:To wit, this literally just got frothed out at me on another forum regarding a hockey coach repeatedly saying the n-word at a player after I chastised some hot boomer takes: It’s their word, and only old white dudes should be able to say it. We should refer to it simply as the b-word. It’s hilarious we’ve taken something they love and made it something they hate and consider a slur. That’s a loving victory.
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Nov 28, 2019 15:10
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Grraarrgghh posted:To wit, this literally just got frothed out at me on another forum regarding a hockey coach repeatedly saying the n-word at a player after I chastised some hot boomer takes: bxxmers sounds like a lovely trap group
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Nov 28, 2019 15:29
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Grraarrgghh posted:To wit, this literally just got frothed out at me on another forum regarding a hockey coach repeatedly saying the n-word at a player after I chastised some hot boomer takes: Not to be confused with bXXXmers, which is porn nobody would want to watch.
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Nov 28, 2019 15:38
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Not to be confused with bXXXmers, which is porn nobody would want to watch. Speak for yourself. Also, I really feel like we didn’t spend enough time on the Gay Boomer 40K Furry Space Sex guys. Edit: gently caress, I read that as BMXXXers, gently caress.
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Nov 28, 2019 15:45
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CommonShore posted:Like, fine, I get that you don't want historical trans erasure, but if you're going to respect Elagabalus's self-identification, you need to make sacrifices to him as the incarnation of the Syrian sun god Sol Invictus. ...do you not?
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Nov 28, 2019 16:11
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Nov 28, 2019 16:17
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CommonShore posted:Oh man last time I looked at it Elagabalus's wikipedia page was a terrible battleground of bad edits and citations by people who really really want Elagabalus to be trans and people who really really don't want Elagabalus to be trans, to the extent that they were fighting over English pronouns for someone who lived centuries before any of those pronouns even existed. Not just pronouns, but any attempt to claim that historical figures are LGBT with limited evidence are necessarily flawed because they come from a very modern view. Our current ideas of gender and sexuality come from no later than the Victorian period and people thousands of years in the past wouldn’t be guaranteed to fit neatly into our boxes or understand all of what they mean. Like imagine trying to figure out if a Spartan could be conceivably classified as “gay” by modern understanding, jokes to piss off Molon Labe guys notwithstanding.
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Nov 28, 2019 16:40
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Grraarrgghh posted:To wit, this literally just got frothed out at me on another forum regarding a hockey coach repeatedly saying the n-word at a player after I chastised some hot boomer takes: My brain interpreted that word initially as "bmxers".
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Nov 28, 2019 16:42
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It also doesn’t work because we got the most part don’t have any evidence for emperors personal feelings. Everything we have is from other people
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Nov 28, 2019 16:42
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And the Romans, like the Greeks before them, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
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Nov 28, 2019 16:51
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GreenMetalSun posted:Speak for yourself. Yeah. If nothing else, the "lore" posts explaining the "history" of their "organization" are insane: https://mobile.twitter.com/DumbCerb/status/1199525761704742912
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Nov 28, 2019 17:02
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rodbeard posted:They didn't do anything to anyone 2 lesbians signed up for a blind date program and got paired up. Oh, that's all right then. I thought it was some stunt the newspaper thought up.
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Nov 28, 2019 17:09
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eating only apples posted:I feel like I should post this shocking, horrible, terrible article. The cis lesbian did cancel the second date in the last minute without elaborating and then cut contact with the trans girl. So I don't think she gave her honest opinion in the newspaper interview. Is there a practical approach to trans people who aren't openly trans when it comes to online dating? Keeping it secret and letting the other person find out later on seems like a pretty terrible way to do it.
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Nov 28, 2019 17:25
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Grraarrgghh posted:To wit, this literally just got frothed out at me on another forum regarding a hockey coach repeatedly saying the n-word at a player after I chastised some hot boomer takes: I called someone a boomer like, yesterday. He responded by calling me the F slur. Then he blocked me. I should check what he said with my other Twitter.
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Nov 28, 2019 17:35
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Oh, that's all right then. I thought it was some stunt the newspaper thought up. It's a regular feature they run (weekly?) Sometimes it's a straight couple, sometimes a gay couple. I can see how it could seem like an exploitative newspaper stunt without that context but the Guardian does have a whole dating site and people write in to sign up to the Blind Date column. It's just a dull little bit of fluff in the lifestyle pages that's occasionally entertaining if the date was a disaster but otherwise it's literally inoffensive filler. I don't even think it's the first time they've had a cis woman/trans woman lesbian couple, iirc! Just terfs wilding out over nothing, as per. I feel awful for both women involved, they just wanted to go on a blind date, they had a nice evening and plan to meet again, and now a bunch of hateful scummers are blowing up this completely benign non-event. Edit: oh I guess they didn't end up meeting up again but that's also not a big deal, it's a blind date not a wedding. small ghost has a new favorite as of 17:42 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Nov 28, 2019 17:36
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CommonShore posted:Oh man last time I looked at it Elagabalus's wikipedia page was a terrible battleground of bad edits and citations by people who really really want Elagabalus to be trans and people who really really don't want Elagabalus to be trans, to the extent that they were fighting over English pronouns for someone who lived centuries before any of those pronouns even existed. Honestly, I think trying to claim Elagabalus is trans does way more harm to the trans community than it helps. They were basically patient zero for all the worst stereotypes of queer people.
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Nov 28, 2019 17:38
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Eschenique posted:The cis lesbian did cancel the second date in the last minute without elaborating and then cut contact with the trans girl. So I don't think she gave her honest opinion in the newspaper interview. The cislady said she just didn't click with the translady, and I believe her because people don't click with each other all the time. Also, if she didn't like the translady specifically because she was trans, why doesn't she say "yes, the TERFs are right" instead of fighting with them on Twitter?  Eschenique posted:Is there a practical approach to trans people who aren't openly trans when it comes to online dating? Keeping it secret and letting the other person find out later on seems like a pretty terrible way to do it. Here's the approach: the transperson reveals their trans status if and when they feel safe doing so. It's their business, not their partner's.
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Nov 28, 2019 17:38
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Someone should make a bastardized twitter app where you read with one account and then post with another. So many people I follow I can never respond to because they're quick blockers (like pope hat)
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Nov 28, 2019 17:39
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Nov 28, 2019 17:44
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“I hosed up the planet, but you’re in the wrong for being concerned about the mess I made”
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Nov 28, 2019 17:47
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It's like they think these things almost all the way through and quit an inch before the finish line.
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Nov 28, 2019 17:51
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Boomers getting immediately mad about there finally being a “slur” against them is hilarious. No self awareness at all.
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Nov 28, 2019 17:58
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It's perfect. You aren't ignoring them (they wouldn't notice), you aren't providing an argument (that they would ignore anyway) and you're dismissing them using a term they've been proud of for years.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:30
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Cis is weird for me because in one of the languages I had to learn at school Cis sounds really close to a word that means "yuck" or "disgusting"
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Madkal posted:Cis is weird for me because in one of the languages I had to learn at school Cis sounds really close to a word that means "yuck" or "disgusting" Obvious joke in 3... 2... 1...
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