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Tertius Oculum posted:Can the mods ban anyone not talking about FRANK please? Yes, Frank, the father of Acclaimed Author of Dune series.
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Nov 28, 2019 13:47
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I mean, space pussy witches aren't so different from Lord CYBERTREX 9000.
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Nov 28, 2019 13:53
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Tertius Oculum posted:Can the mods ban anyone not talking about FRANK please? Frankly, my dear, I don't give a Frank
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Nov 28, 2019 14:10
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WHAT THE gently caress is wrong with @duneauthor?
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Nov 28, 2019 14:19
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He is both racist and fetishizes black people, a surprisingly common combination
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Nov 28, 2019 14:25
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Introduction of every woman character in his new "book" is followed by her relationship status. Another one 
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Nov 28, 2019 14:30
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I've seen introductions of waifus in dating sims that are less objectifying
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Nov 28, 2019 14:37
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This book really looks like a dating sim, where getting in the sheets with each female character is a stepping stone for @da to gently caress the purebred ebony goddess of his dreams.
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Nov 28, 2019 14:39
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So I have a question : Was Frank dissatisfied with his work? Children feels like someone told him to tone it the gently caress down with his favourite characters and he just took a look at his characters and themes and took it into a kinda dissatisfied end. Also, do we know what the Golden Path tries to prevent? What threat looms that is so terrible to justify Letos II actions? Did Frank know? Fanfics don't count
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Nov 28, 2019 15:53
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The threat are two shadowy figures. One failson and one ghostwriter. Leto II knew that if we stay on the Golden Path and only read the 6 books by the father of @duneauthor we will be able to avoid succumbing to the alien threat.
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Nov 28, 2019 15:56
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Anne Frank Funk posted:The threat are two shadowy figures. One failson and one ghostwriter. Leto II knew that if we stay on the Golden Path and only read the 6 books by the father of @duneauthor we will be able to avoid succumbing to the alien threat. Truly, Leto saw the most terrible Kralizec imaginable. No wonder Muad'dib went into the desert instead of facing this
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Nov 28, 2019 16:01
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Also, do we know what the Golden Path tries to prevent? What threat looms that is so terrible to justify Letos II actions? Siona Atreides, during the visions she experience as a result of drinking directly of spice essense from the God-Emperor, sees the the following: quote:The seeking machines would be there, the smell of blood and entrails, the cowering humans in their burrows aware only that they could not escape . . . while all the time the mechanical movement approached, nearer and nearer and nearer ...louder...louder!
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Nov 28, 2019 16:02
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The golden path is a multigenerational effort to discredit @duneauthor enough so that only the original series is canon.
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Nov 28, 2019 16:04
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Also, do we know what the Golden Path tries to prevent? What threat looms that is so terrible to justify Letos II actions? terminators, basically. not actually existing ones, but ones that humanity would eventually make. he had to change human nature so that the scattering would happen and no single self-inflicted genocidal disaster would ever catch everyone.
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Nov 28, 2019 16:14
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Doc Hawkins posted:terminators, basically. not actually existing ones, but ones that humanity would eventually make. he had to change human nature so that the scattering would happen and no single self-inflicted genocidal disaster would ever catch everyone. Kinda the irony being that the most survivable future is pretty boring.
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Nov 28, 2019 16:16
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Kinda the irony being that the most survivable future is pretty boring. Which is why Leto forbade travel or social or economic mobility other than working for him, to power the Wunderlust, like Polynesians colonizing the Pacific endlessly
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Nov 28, 2019 17:06
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Leto said that one possible future was the mutated hunter-seekers, but that as he drove them away from one thing another would pop up, and so on. The real thing that the Golden Path was trying to avoid was a humanity that stopped spreading and growing, because that meant eventually some threat would be bound to take it out given enough time, just statistically speaking. The Golden Path forcibly scarred humanity into a place where they'd never stop going and growing and changing and evolving new societies and civilisations and mutations and abilities in every new corner of space they reached, so nothing could ever be enough to wipe it all out. That was my interpretation anyway. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Nov 28, 2019 17:13
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In addition to Sionas visions which I brought up before, there's also a section that I can't remember where it is, but it's also heavily implied that throughout the original Dune days and all the way to the times of the God-Emperor, that Ixians are building machines in the likeness of mankind, other than the ones that they sell to the God-Emperor. This is further backed by Ixians eventually producing computers that can handle the folding of space without navigators.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:11
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In the meantime honored matres are capable of fondling space.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:22
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MikeJF posted:The real thing that the Golden Path was trying to avoid was a humanity that stopped spreading and growing, because that meant eventually some threat would be bound to take it out given enough time, just statistically speaking. That, and to protect people from prescience. Whether the existence of prescience meant that humanity had stopped growing and spreading, or that a humanity that stagnates as the one in Dune did permitted it isn't really clear, but either way, it had to be destroyed.
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Nov 28, 2019 20:33
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I was important to create economic incentives for I’d to disregard the social taboos and design hyperspace navigation computers, so space travel isn’t dependent on one organization who needs drugs from one planet, which itself meant humans could only colonize worlds so far from Arrakis.
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Nov 28, 2019 21:05
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Did they ever explain how they did space travel without spice?
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Nov 28, 2019 21:10
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TK-42-1 posted:Did they ever explain how they did space travel without spice? Okay see, the issue isn't that they couldn't do space travel without spice, but rather the spice allowed them to sort of peep into the future slightly to figure out a SAFE course. They can/could fold space just fine without spice. Spice doesn't actually have anything to do with the actual space travel. It's there to prevent folding space and popping back in the middle of a planet, or an asteroid belt or some other whatnot in space. It takes all the uncertainty and danger out of space travel.
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Nov 28, 2019 21:16
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TK-42-1 posted:Did they ever explain how they did space travel without spice? So for all its woes and challenges the spacing guild probably made interplanetary trade enormously more robust and safer. Probably a good example of this is that the Fremen, who live on extralegal trade and squat in the desert, appeared to be familiar enough with Caladani rice to incorporate it into familiar dishes.
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Nov 28, 2019 21:31
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TK-42-1 posted:Did they ever explain how they did space travel without spice? Before the Guild everyone just used computers to calculate the travel path. Then the Jihad came around and made computers illegal, and there was a 200 year stretch where space travel was real dicey.
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Nov 28, 2019 21:34
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Spice is the buzzkill. I will not let it enter me.
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Nov 28, 2019 21:34
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Yeah, I figured given the Ixians increasingly didn't give a poo poo about the Jihad they basically rediscovered a lot of tech that had been lost, especially when Spice became so limited. Leto II got so pissed about historicans making poo poo up to fit the narrative because it has the same problem of history now; when it's rewritten to support the current system there's no exposure to alternatives and no incentive to change.
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Nov 29, 2019 06:06
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TK-42-1 posted:Did they ever explain how they did space travel without spice? i didnt read all the books but i remember in one of them i read i think the first 2 or 3 they said something like a guild freighter goes around the galaxy in one day and with out spice it would take them months of doing small easy hops and the losses would be enomorous. i think its when leto is explaining to paul ( the audience) why spice is so important
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Nov 29, 2019 06:11
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MikeJF posted:Leto said that one possible future was the mutated hunter-seekers, but that as he drove them away from one thing another would pop up, and so on. The real thing that the Golden Path was trying to avoid was a humanity that stopped spreading and growing, because that meant eventually some threat would be bound to take it out given enough time, just statistically speaking. The Golden Path forcibly scarred humanity into a place where they'd never stop going and growing and changing and evolving new societies and civilisations and mutations and abilities in every new corner of space they reached, so nothing could ever be enough to wipe it all out. Defiance Industries posted:That, and to protect people from prescience. Whether the existence of prescience meant that humanity had stopped growing and spreading, or that a humanity that stagnates as the one in Dune did permitted it isn't really clear, but either way, it had to be destroyed. What are you people even talking about? The actual for real author of Dune has written extensively on the nature of Kralizec, and it is beep boop shapeshifting daleks aaaaaaall the way down. This is clearly set up masterfully in the prequels and pays off rather satisfactorily in the last two very real, very official and very true books of the series. Also sandworms can now swim, for reasons that are immediately obvious and comprehensible for anyone with half a brain. There's very few things I regret doing in life, but one of them for sure is succumbing to temptation and reading failsons cursed books. I tought "It can't possibly be that bad, even mediocre Dune is better than no Dune" and then I was completely wrong, instantly and forever. I am now become a tragic messiah figure, knowing what is to become of my beloved weirdo desert sci-fi series but powerless to stop it.
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Nov 29, 2019 16:42
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Brian Herbert and Todd Howard should team up on a Fallout/Dune crossover so that I can finally have the motivation to destroy civilization
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Nov 29, 2019 18:11
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All right, I'll be the one to say it. South Park did a parody of Dune. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE_-0IdWioU
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Nov 29, 2019 18:29
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I started God Emperor and I fukken love it. It's weird and tragic so far. As the reader we know why Leto is acting like he does, and how the Golden Path is a path where he sacrifices it all. But still, it feels like it could be an excellent stage play in parts. Who would you cast in God Emperor : The Musical? Jack-Off Lantern fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Nov 29, 2019 |
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Nov 29, 2019 20:29
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nathan lane as leto ii that's not a fat joke, i just think a sad knowing role would be funny for him
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Nov 30, 2019 01:20
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Rex Harrison as Leto I James Cagney as Hasimir Fenring (dude had range)
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Nov 30, 2019 01:41
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Hugh Jackman as Jean Valjean as Moneo
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Nov 30, 2019 01:45
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Anne Frank Funk posted:All right, I'll be the one to say it. South Park did a parody of Dune. Not nearly as good as the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy God Emperor of Dune episode. That was really unexpected for a kid's show.
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Nov 30, 2019 01:49
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3904953
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Nov 30, 2019 01:51
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gbs is the little death that brings total obliteration gently caress drat hell rear end
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Nov 30, 2019 01:52
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That thread is very good
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Tertius Oculum posted:Can the mods ban anyone not talking about FRANK please? Let me be Frank... Anne Frank Funk posted:This book really looks like a dating sim, where getting in the sheets with each female character is a stepping stone for @da to gently caress the purebred ebony goddess of his dreams. Henry Miller is the only one who can pull that off.
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