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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1199753145703960576 I believe 561 votes is the most votes any NY64 poll has received.
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Psychepath posted:Despite truly hitting his stride just a little too late to be included in this tournament, I'd like to add Corey Graves's name to the thread for bullying Mauro Ranallo off of survivor series and tv this week, on top of being trash as both a person and commentator. He's easily like a rank 68 along with Mansoor. He also regularly shits on people suffering from depression, people who have attempted suicide, people who have been in rehab, etc.
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Second half of the preview special is up with the alleged sex predator wing of the NY64, and some completely bizarre stories. Not sure if this is a great show, but I laughed a lot in between really hating people. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1199918540855361536 MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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USEFUL NOTES AS I LISTEN TO PART 2 BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP, TO BE CONTINUED MAYBE: Terry Taylor receipts in the form of Thunderbolt Patterson's statement of material facts attached to a motion in his branch of the big WCW racial discrimination lawsuits: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6531682-Thunderbolt-Patterson-Response-to-WCW-Motion-for.html Jeff Savage's Penthouse article on the various scandals from the September 1992 issue, which is an expanded version of his San Diego Union Tribune feature that blew up the ring boy scandal, which includes the more graphic details of Tom Cole's allegations against Mel Phillips: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6560721-No-Holds-Barred-by-Jeff-Savage-Penthouse.html Tom Cole's 1999 interview with Wrestling Perspective: http://wrestlingperspective.com/issue/78/cole1.html Phil Mushnick's 1992 New York Post column (the front page story of that day's sports section) where he goes over what Vince McMahon told him AND Dave Meltzer about firing Phillips and bringing him back: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6175271-Mushnick-Sex-Lies-the-WWF-Column-Re-Conversation.html (Meltzer weirdly just ran what Mushnick said at the time, leaving his own role out of it, but he's told me on the record that it's true, and obviously he would have denied it if it wasn't.) Politico article on the ring boy scandal: https://www.politico.com/story/2010/07/linda-mcmahons-world-of-wrestling-040476 The only Tom Cole interview since that article: http://www.mikemooneyham.com/2002/10/20/past-still-haunts-former-wwf-ring-boy/ TV coverage of the 1992 sexual harassment, ring boy, and steroid scandals: Larry King Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je5mokKJqkk Donahue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPTCRnBEUJM A Current Affair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiqaLBokta0 CBS Evening News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxsCNbYju8Q Now It Can Be Told: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye-OBWSt7X0 My Chris Amann article, which links the relevant court docs: https://deadspin.com/court-records-wwe-doctor-who-sued-cm-punk-had-sexual-r-1826818551 (To correct MRT, the judge DID keep the Jillian Hall stuff out of the trial, but the records of Amann's lawyer's attempt to get that all from being brought up at trial was still public.) Howard Brody's book includes an entire chapter that's devoted to Rockin' Robin, Grizzly Smith's daughter/Jake Roberts' half-sister/Sam Houston's sister, giving a first-hand account of the sexual abuse that she suffered at the hands of her father, her alcoholism, and eventually her sobriety while becoming a successful realtor. Google Books doesn't have the inside of the book available, but it's cited here in Slam Wrestling's article about Grizzly's death: http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Wrestling/2010/06/12/14368776.html (Also mentioned: The long-held suspicion that Grizzly murdered their sister JoLynn.) An array of Ultimate Warrior stuff: "The Ultimate Warrior is an insane dick," from Barry Petchesky when Warrior died: https://deadspin.com/the-ultimate-warrior-was-an-insane-dick-1561275496 My article that deals with Warrior's wife/company getting The Wayback Machine to delete his old blogs with a B.S. DMCA takedown notice: https://gizmodo.com/when-the-internet-archive-forgets-1830462131 The VICE article that led them to send said DMCA takedown notice: https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/59y3nb/wwe-is-whitewashing-the-ultimate-warriors-bigoted-past My look at The Warrior Award, where I connected the dots between Warrior and the Charles Martel Society: https://deadspin.com/why-does-wwe-honor-the-ultimate-warrior-1833510376 My article about WWE and Dana Warrior trying to turn Warrior into a pro-LGBT symbol (and The Warrior Award being more or less an admitted marketing campaign): https://deadspin.com/the-ultimate-warrior-is-not-a-gay-pride-mascot-1835536799 The reprint I did of my FSM article on the Warrior/Vince relationship that heavily cited court records: https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/the-ultimate-reconciliation-an-inside Warrior's rep threatens Something Awful: https://www.somethingawful.com/legal-threats/legal-threat-ultimate/1/ Proof that the dude who threatened Something Awful was real and not a creation of Warrior: https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/remember-the-ultimate-warriors-director My article on the truth of the Jerry Lawler rape case that was hidden in plain sight in the police file: https://deadspin.com/jerry-lawler-wrote-a-really-dumb-letter-to-prosecutors-1822790447 (Read the whole thing carefully, including the source docs if you can. I regret leading with the letter in a sense, because the big takeaway should be how much this diverges from Lawler's version/the one told historically.) Vince potpourri: My article on the allegation that Vince groped a tanning salon employee: https://deadspin.com/witness-vince-mcmahon-stared-down-groping-accuser-for-1822642014 My article on the death of Owen Hart and the subsequent lawsuits: https://deadspin.com/after-two-decades-owen-harts-death-is-still-wwes-darke-1834910126 My big picture article on the steroid trial: https://deadspin.com/vince-mcmahons-defiant-paranoia-was-shaped-by-his-stero-1836707000 My article on Dr. Zahorian that leans heavily on court records: https://babyfacevheel.substack.com/p/the-boys-need-their-candy-the-trial
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Still recovering from some weird illness that just keeps hitting me and during that recording I was just ouuuut of it after a bit. So I apologize for that.
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Nov 28, 2019 15:40
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The first match up is Cornette vs Russo. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1200097363601371142
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Nov 28, 2019 18:18
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I know Cornette is in the zeitgeist right now, for good reason, but what tips it toward voting Russo for me was him constantly putting wrestlers in danger by having them do non-wrestler things they weren't trained to do, in addition to him constantly putting non-wrestlers in danger by having them wrestle.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:25
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I got Cornette, they're both bad for much the same reasons but Cornette's just been doing it longer and is still held in some regard while Russo is largely a figure of ridicule.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:26
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njsykora posted:I got Cornette, they're both bad for much the same reasons but Cornette's just been doing it longer and is still held in some regard while Russo is largely a figure of ridicule. It’s this for me as well, Cornette is far more damaging now and has been for far longer.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:29
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Retweets are especially appreciated for this match up in hopes either Russo or Cornette sees it and flips out on Thanksgiving.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:36
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Russo played a far larger role in scrambling all kinds of brains (including his own) so I cannot imagine possibly voting for Cornette even though he fuckin' sucks too.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:47
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I honestly have no idea who to vote here, so I guess I'm uhhhh """looking forward""" to finding out more about these two complete shitbags and which one is the bigger of the two.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:57
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It's a close one, but I feel that Russo is hateful because he's an idiot and Cornette is an idiot because he's hateful. Cornette revels in being a dickhead and that gives him the edge in my eyes.
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Nov 28, 2019 19:04
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What gives Russo the edge for me is the power he's been given to exercise his bigotries. Cornette's been in the business a long time but he never had the sort of big position Russo had in WWF, never mind WCW and TNA.
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Nov 28, 2019 19:09
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Gavok posted:It's a close one, but I feel that Russo is hateful because he's an idiot and Cornette is an idiot because he's hateful. Cornette revels in being a dickhead and that gives him the edge in my eyes. This is how I default but then I read the deposition transcripts. It's such a hard call. https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/976580164736946178?s=19
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Nov 28, 2019 19:09
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njsykora posted:I got Cornette, they're both bad for much the same reasons but Cornette's just been doing it longer and is still held in some regard while Russo is largely a figure of ridicule. its the same thing with the AJ/Brock vote for me. AJ gets away with being a bigot because he is/was a good worker. Cornette gets away with being an abusive racist because he tells good stories and drew some people to an outlaw mudshow in Kentucky.
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Nov 28, 2019 19:17
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MassRafTer posted:The first match up is Cornette vs Russo. can I vote for both to advance?
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Nov 28, 2019 20:19
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I'm more concerned with what Russo did than with what Cornette said.
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Nov 28, 2019 20:25
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Hard choice, went Cornette because he just tweeted a few hours ago in defense of his latest racist joke.
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Nov 28, 2019 20:26
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In the final analysis I gotta go with Russo.
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Nov 28, 2019 20:27
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It's an easy Russo vote to me. Big Jim is a stupid racist but Russo was part of creating a culture in WCW that belittled minorities at every turn. They have the same public-facing character flaws but Russo is a different brand of poo poo Fucker. to me e; not to mention all the other insane russo poo poo lol
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Nov 28, 2019 20:29
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Can someone give me the nutshell on Terry Garvin? I was surprised he seeded higher than Grizzly Smith.
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Nov 28, 2019 20:44
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Terry Garvin was a part of the sex ring with Mel Philips
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Nov 28, 2019 20:47
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Deathlove posted:Can someone give me the nutshell on Terry Garvin? I was surprised he seeded higher than Grizzly Smith. Terry Garvin is basically the reigning NY64 champion, as he was a core part of the ring boy scandal.
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Nov 28, 2019 20:52
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I’d drive a monster truck if given the opportunity. Jim Cornette would punch me for suggesting Ethiopians are real people. This is pretty easy.
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Nov 28, 2019 21:02
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Russo hosed over John Arezzi, made an anti-Semitic pic of Dave Meltzer and stanned WWE like crazy during the steroid trials on his radio show, all before he had spent a second in wrestling
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Nov 28, 2019 21:07
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It's all fun and games until next episode of Nitro is a tribute to Sid Eudy.
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Smoking Crow posted:Russo hosed over John Arezzi, made an anti-Semitic pic of Dave Meltzer and stanned WWE like crazy during the steroid trials on his radio show, all before he had spent a second in wrestling Russo’s a crazy person that cruel shitbags keep enabling. Cornette’s a violent shitbag and continues to be a Russo enabler well past the point of social decency. Basically I think Russo should be in therapy and Cornette should be shoved in a hole and forgotten.
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Nov 28, 2019 21:16
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Even with the Cornette stuff being fresher Russo is still a bit worse. His programming was the equivalent of an hour+ of the Ethiopian joke except brimming with palpable disgust towards women, gay/trans people, every ethnicity that wasn’t white etc. It can be hard to remember it because it’s easier to dismiss him as a wacky dude when he’s a legit terrible human being with toxic views
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Nov 28, 2019 21:56
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Thought about this a lot, but what puts Russo a cut above for me is the degree of misogyny that goes beyond even wrestling’s standards. MRT talked about this clip in his TNA podcasts. One of the grossest in-ring segments I’ve ever seen. https://youtu.be/uYC6b9i6myI
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Aesop Poprock posted:Even with the Cornette stuff being fresher Russo is still a bit worse. His programming was the equivalent of an hour+ of the Ethiopian joke except brimming with palpable disgust towards women, gay/trans people, every ethnicity that wasn’t white etc. It can be hard to remember it because it’s easier to dismiss him as a wacky dude when he’s a legit terrible human being with toxic views Russo's TV is notorious but Cornette's SMW had some deeply racist angles.
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MassRafTer posted:Russo's TV is notorious but Cornette's SMW had some deeply racist angles. Did either have any creative involvement with the initial pre-Gang Warz Nation of Domination storyline in WWF?
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MassRafTer posted:Russo's TV is notorious but Cornette's SMW had some deeply racist angles. Yeah I know about his stuff with the Gangstas but I’m not a huge SME historian, did he do other stuff as well?
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Nov 28, 2019 23:49
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Aesop Poprock posted:Yeah I know about his stuff with the Gangstas but I’m not a huge SME historian, did he do other stuff as well? One of their top babyfaces was a guy named Dixie Dynamite who had a Confederate flag and mask.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:59
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I thought you were joking but it’s real lol. And he was played by Scott Armstrong!
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njsykora posted:Terry Garvin is basically the reigning NY64 champion, as he was a core part of the ring boy scandal. Oh, gently caress! I didn't read super far into that stuff because I didn't really want to, so my surface understanding was Mel Phillips and Vince covering for him.
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did russo book kanyon to get tossed of the triple cage in the arena that owen died in?
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MassRafTer posted:Russo's TV is notorious but Cornette's SMW had some deeply racist angles. Did Cornette put talent in dangerous situations for the gently caress of it, or is his talent abuse more personal and targeted (like the Santino Marella story)
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