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"They say the world is messed up but also that they are going to die from it, so how does that make sense???"
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Thinking back to my Afrikaans, it also sounds similar to the word for six, and the word for sister.
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Nov 28, 2019 18:41
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Madkal posted:Thinking back to my Afrikaans, it also sounds similar to the word for six, and the word for sister. "Sis", or more properly "Sies" is very much a South African slang for "gross" or something unpleasant. "Ses" or "sussie" are a little broader, especially with a homegrown accent. Sunswipe posted:Obvious joke in 3... 2... 1...
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Nov 28, 2019 18:49
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"My children will die young and it serves them right!"
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Nov 28, 2019 19:02
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MizPiz posted:Honestly, I think trying to claim Elagabalus is trans does way more harm to the trans community than it helps. They were basically patient zero for all the worst stereotypes of queer people. To be fair, the more outlandish claims about them seem obviously made up to slander (The 'oh, he loved to doll himself up so as to prostitute himself' stuff) but alot of it could also be because he was only ever a teenager.
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Nov 28, 2019 19:11
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Respond to everyone who says "I'm not cis don't call me cis" with "congrats on coming out as trans!" and hope the aneurysm kills them.
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Nov 28, 2019 19:20
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Hope is great, but we need to be the change we want to see in the world.
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Nov 28, 2019 19:24
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Screaming Idiot posted:Hope is great, but we need to be the change we want to see in the world. look I got my dick yeeted what more do you want
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Nov 28, 2019 19:28
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MizPiz posted:Honestly, I think trying to claim Elagabalus is trans does way more harm to the trans community than it helps. They were basically patient zero for all the worst stereotypes of queer people. This is parallel to my distaste for the last wave of this kind of research, namely the "such and such figure was actually gay" psychoanalytic history.
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Nov 28, 2019 19:38
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CommonShore posted:This is parallel to my distaste for the last wave of this kind of research, namely the "such and such figure was actually gay" psychoanalytic history. The Enola Gay was gay. It was a gay airplane. It's right there in the name: it says Gay. The airplane was gay. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. https://twitter.com/frimairist/status/1200046771625451520 
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Nov 28, 2019 19:42
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:To be fair, the more outlandish claims about them seem obviously made up to slander (The 'oh, he loved to doll himself up so as to prostitute himself' stuff) but alot of it could also be because he was only ever a teenager. The most recent book I read on the subject basically said Elagabalus was what happens when you make a poorly-socialized teenage failson the Emperor of Rome and nobody can say no to what they want.
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Nov 28, 2019 19:55
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CommonShore posted:This is parallel to my distaste for the last wave of this kind of research, namely the "such and such figure was actually gay" psychoanalytic history. Abraham Lincoln? Gay. Martin Luther? Gay. Plato? Gay as hell. Alexander the Great? Trans. Niankhkhnum and Khnumhotep? Straight as an arrow, baby.
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Nov 28, 2019 20:07
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I can die happy knowing there is at least one attested example of “khkh”
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Nov 28, 2019 20:11
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Climate change debunked. https://twitter.com/TruthJavelin/status/1200117697851379712?s=20
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Nov 28, 2019 20:19
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Eschenique posted:Climate change debunked. How so? It used to be that the sea ice were too thick for ship breakers to be of use at all. Nowsadays, the sea ice across the polar area are much smaller and thinner that the ship breakers are more efficient.
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Luckyellow posted:How so? It used to be that the sea ice were too thick for ship breakers to be of use at all. Nowsadays, the sea ice across the polar area are much smaller and thinner that the ship breakers are more efficient. Because they wouldn't commission more ice breakers if there wasn't going to be a lot of ice around to break in the future obviously.
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Nov 28, 2019 20:59
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Eschenique posted:The cis lesbian did cancel the second date in the last minute without elaborating and then cut contact with the trans girl. So I don't think she gave her honest opinion in the newspaper interview. How about in this Tweet? https://twitter.com/aigroe/status/1199431598929784838
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Nov 28, 2019 22:06
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Pththya-lyi posted:Here's the approach: the transperson reveals their trans status if and when they feel safe doing so. It's their business, not their partner's. SURPRISE! I'm really a _______! And that's the most acceptable way? Two people have met because they are looking for a partner and you feel it's AOK for one person to just keep that sort of information under wraps until they feel.... safe? Dropping that sort of bomb on the second date seems like something that would make you UNSAFE.
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It’s unfortunate but I do have to agree. “Let people say it when they want to!” is a nice sentiment and relevant when deciding to come out to your family, but people have been actively endangered by getting intimate with someone before springing it on them. Being open about it before you ever meet in person means the kind of person who flips out and beats you after finding out that you have a penis never gets that close to you in the first place.
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Smackdillion posted:SURPRISE! I'm really a _______! And that's the most acceptable way? This is an area where I trust a trans person to have a better sense of what is safest personally.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:10
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Oh good. This derail is going to end well. We get murdered for disclosing upfront or on the second date. But yes, let's hear what the cis have to say all about our experiences.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:11
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:Oh good. This derail is going to end well. Yeah cis people you get 0 loving input on this
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Nov 28, 2019 23:14
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How dare you dismiss my cishet white guy opinion, is that even legal???
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Nov 28, 2019 23:19
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Clerical Terrors posted:The Enola Gay was gay. It was a gay airplane. It's right there in the name: it says Gay. The airplane was gay. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Their backtracking did not disappoint https://mobile.twitter.com/BootlegGirl/status/1200164002615242760 MizPiz has a new favorite as of 23:27 on Nov 28, 2019 |
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Nov 28, 2019 23:24
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I just asked a question. What about that situation makes you think a surprise is the correct way to handle it? Help me understand.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:25
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Six-Of-Hearts posted:Oh good. This derail is going to end well. You think these people don't want trans folk to be murdered? They're just not saying it loudly.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:29
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Smackdillion posted:I just asked a question. What about that situation makes you think a surprise is the correct way to handle it? Framing my response here - I'm cis and male. But I try to listen to what people have to say about their experiences, and you're about to hear a whole bunch, so don't take it as an attack when it comes. Listen to what these other posters have to say. But the short version is that when your identity can result in someone else killing you, it's 100% pragmatic to get a sense of what someone else is about and to decide if you trust that person before you reveal that aspect of your identity.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:29
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We'll disclose when we feel safe to do so. Cis have a track record of murdering us so we're gonna err on the safe side as best we can.
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Nov 28, 2019 23:30
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Proposal: trans people start making decisions for cis people
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Proposal: trans people start making decisions for cis people
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The cis get to decide our healthcare, we should get to decide theirs.
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Carados posted:You think these people don't want trans folk to be murdered? Oh gently caress off.
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chitoryu12 posted:Oh gently caress off. That poster aint wrong.
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For what it's worth, I knew a transwoman for quite some time, and it took a good while and trust before she told me, and that's entirely fine. She'd lost friends over it, so she was understandably concerned about saying so at first, and that's fine. Given the way people treat trans folk, it's kind of necessary. I can't speak from a trans perspective, but I didn't feel surprised or anything because it came out once we were already close, but not yet intimate. I'm sorry if this is an uneducated take.
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CommonShore posted:Framing my response here - I'm cis and male. But I try to listen to what people have to say about their experiences, and you're about to hear a whole bunch, so don't take it as an attack when it comes. Listen to what these other posters have to say. Fellow cis man, and I agree with most of this. I’d also point out that there are a lot of things you don’t reveal on a first date. Would I be expected to tell my partner I’m on anti-anxiety medicine or what my credit score is or... I don’t know, any one of a hundred different pieces of biographical information that fall under the heading of “personal?” Why is the status of one’s genitalia different? I mean, I can see good reasons not to reveal it too quickly, but I can’t think of a compelling reason why you have to tell your partner right away.
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chitoryu12 posted:Oh gently caress off. I don’t think they’re necessarily saying “the cis posters in this thread want to murder trans people” if that’s what you read that as
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Aesop Poprock posted:I don’t think they’re necessarily saying “the cis posters in this thread want to murder trans people” if that’s what you read that as That is clearly exactly what they're saying.
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chitoryu12 posted:That is clearly exactly what they're saying. I think they're referring to the TERFs bitching about the dating thing, dude.
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Agrinja posted:For what it's worth, I knew a transwoman for quite some time, and it took a good while and trust before she told me, and that's entirely fine. She'd lost friends over it, so she was understandably concerned about saying so at first, and that's fine. Given the way people treat trans folk, it's kind of necessary. I can't speak from a trans perspective, but I didn't feel surprised or anything because it came out once we were already close, but not yet intimate. I'm sorry if this is an uneducated take. This is respectful and good. Chitoryu thinking he can lecture us on when we should be disclosing our identity - especially when that information is often used as the grounds to rape and murder us, and then as a defense in court afterwards - is hosed and unacceptable. I get to disclose when I feel safe. No one else decides that for me. It's enough of a loving minefield as it is without cis people saying they have a right to know. Bullshit, you had a nice date.
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