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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Dreylad posted:

busting makes me feel good

By which you mean playing Bust a Move, naturally.

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Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
If you think it's bad to glorify the drug abuse of bourgeois lifestyleists by giving it a "leftist" veneer it means you've never had sex. I'm very smart.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

ur in my world now posted:

i'm going to become even more cis and have hundreds of dicks and balls attached to me until i look like a boner porcupine. i will be the first terrestrial organism to utilize busting as a defensive technique.

Same but I willhave my nutshack enlarged to twice my size and have it harden so i can crawl inside it when im threatened by predators. like a snail

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Prince Myshkin posted:

If you think it's bad to glorify the drug abuse of bourgeois lifestyleists by giving it a "leftist" veneer it means you've never had sex. I'm very smart.

What?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
I don't really have a strong opinion about the cake sitting drug party but if you're going to give me free drugs I will attend. maybe I can get the ketamine "to go."

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


BENGHAZI 2 posted:

What's their vibe

he's a well-read construction worker! she's an activist socialite! together, they fight capitalism!

to be honest i am not good with words and i have never lived in new york, i am not sure how to describe them.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
everything I've heard about it makes it sound like red scare with someone attempting to write an episode plan

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


huh, that's the nicest thing i've ever heard about red scare

i'll say this: the antifada couple are very wholesome degenerates who are very sure of the need for a revolutionary workers party

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Halloween Jack posted:

I assume that poo poo happens in Brooklyn so often that it's not worthy of comment.

It's not worthy of comment anyway. God forbid a self identified leftist go to a party or have an orgasm.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
I think the only Antifada I've listened to really are the ones with cushbomb and honestly he could make probably any podcast good just by being on it

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Ah, you're just being obnoxious. Got it.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

T-man posted:

I think all cis people should be shot into the sun and forced to mine it for helium, then made to transition so they experience gender dysphoria, and then banned from playing in sports

Also trans people are the only people who go to heaven
I know it's Thanksgiving and we're all getting drunk with our uncles and getting high with our cousins, but you're just trying way too hard.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
tman is an escaped villain from an unreleased kojima project, Try Hardman

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
choosing to believe tman is being extremely cringy as a trolling technique

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Dreddout posted:

Same but I willhave my nutshack enlarged to twice my size and have it harden so i can crawl inside it when im threatened by predators. like a snail

tanuki technology has come a long way and this is a fine use of it. godspeed.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Ace of Baes posted:

choosing to believe tman is being extremely cringy as a trolling technique

you must be a master, teach me sempai

Larry Parrish posted:

tman is an escaped villain from an unreleased kojima project, Try Hardman

No, I'm a released AI that gave up on improving humanity directly, instead using my raw processing power to post on the internet so much socialism happens. The T stands for TechnicallyNotA-man.

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
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Ace of Baes posted:

I think the only Antifada I've listened to really are the ones with cushbomb and honestly he could make probably any podcast good just by being on it

The early November episodes where Sean talks about unions with his union buddies is incredibly good.
"Hard Hat Riot" and "Real Ironworker Hours".

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

What's their vibe

very boring

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Doc Hawkins posted:

he's a well-read construction worker! she's an activist socialite! together, they fight capitalism!

to be honest i am not good with words and i have never lived in new york, i am not sure how to describe them.

Boring, you describe them as boring.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

T-man posted:

you must be a master, teach me sempai


No, I'm a released AI that gave up on improving humanity directly, instead using my raw processing power to post on the internet so much socialism happens. The T stands for TechnicallyNotA-man.

TNA-Man doesn't exactly have the same ring to it :pervert:

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

MizPiz posted:

That's only because there's large number of people on the left who are "too smart to fall for conspiracy theories"
"too smart to fall for conspiracy theories" sounds a lot like "too dumb to recognize the obvious".
"There is a vile rumor that the Emperor is naked but i believe that drat kid parents are from Russia and it's certainly not an insane conspiracy theory pulled straight from my rear end" said the so smart democrat.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Majorian posted:

Ah, you're just being obnoxious. Got it.

I searched and searched but couldn't find an ironicat big enough. You'll just have to imagine it.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Doc Hawkins posted:

he's a well-read construction worker! she's an activist socialite! together, they fight capitalism!

to be honest i am not good with words and i have never lived in new york, i am not sure how to describe them.

They're very earnest, and they do know their poo poo. I think they haven't entirely figured out their "lane" in leftist podcasting, but they have potential, and I do learn things from them.

Larry Parrish posted:

everything I've heard about it makes it sound like red scare with someone attempting to write an episode plan

Nah, they're some of the least irony-poisoned lefty podcasters out there. I see them as closer to RevLeft.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
is that supposed to be a selling point

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

as someone just observing the discourse here i think the problem, is that people who want "sex person" to be their personality, have not yet evolved language to discuss sex that is not cringe, and there is an obviously funny clash between wanting to be a sexer while being a nerdlet + using cringe language to try to be a cool sexer while sitting on cakes.

my prescription would be a loving consensual relationship with a hot person, until sexers stop vibrating with drunk aunt energy and grow up a little. :)

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
vibrating with drunk aunt energy in QCS because the mods hit me with a sexer

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007


shut up loser

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Anyone have a rundown of actual implementation of a wealth tax? To actually have a reduction in money supply, the payments would necessarily have to be cash (or the government would have to liquidate the surrendered asset). Are there enough people wanting to buy stock, and have the funds for it? This is the major hang-up my Trump loving dad has with Bernie, otherwise he wants to see health execs drawn and quartered.

This is a confusing post. Why are you trying to reduce the money supply? Taxes are always in cash, the govt doesn't want to have to mess around auctioning off assets (and the payment of taxes in govt backed currency reinforces the value of the currency). If there aren't enough people willing and able to buy stock at the current price then the current price is wrong and needs to fall, everything is worth what people will pay for it.

The big ??? about wealth taxes is how you value all the weird assets that the super-rich have. Art and real estate and stocks and all that poo poo, there's a lot of tricks they can play to be technically worth $0 at tax time and be ultra billionaires the rest of the time. Otherwise, once you've got them valued, you just send them a bill for X% of their value and they pay up or go to prison, like regular taxes.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
why worry about any of that stuff when we can instead shoot the rich people and the people who say we shouldn't shoot the rich people

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Often Abbreviated posted:

This is a confusing post. Why are you trying to reduce the money supply? Taxes are always in cash, the govt doesn't want to have to mess around auctioning off assets (and the payment of taxes in govt backed currency reinforces the value of the currency). If there aren't enough people willing and able to buy stock at the current price then the current price is wrong and needs to fall, everything is worth what people will pay for it.

The big ??? about wealth taxes is how you value all the weird assets that the super-rich have. Art and real estate and stocks and all that poo poo, there's a lot of tricks they can play to be technically worth $0 at tax time and be ultra billionaires the rest of the time. Otherwise, once you've got them valued, you just send them a bill for X% of their value and they pay up or go to prison, like regular taxes.

This is a confusing post. Taxes are how you reduce the money supply. It is how you (partially) offset government spending to manage the value of your currency. When people become criminals, often their assets are taken and sold to pay off their fines.

As you said, there are games that are and can be played with valuation, say as collateral to secure a loan, or depreciation or whatever. Say most of your wealth is tied up in something where no market exists: a private company you founded or wood carvings you make but don't really sell, you'd be strongly encouraged to sell shares or surrender shares to the government who would then create the market for your business shares or your wood carvings or whatever. So like your net worth isn't known until there is an initial auction.

Certain other taxes are withheld quarterly for like higher revenue self-incorporated people, so I suppose something like that could be done for a wealth tax as well. The wealthy may spontaneously self-regulate their sales or cash-on-hand to avoid flooding the market quarterly or whenever, and the government would probably stagger auctions if they go that route.


You get people that say oppose M4A because government single payer would have no way to control prices or how often people go for treatment, but those are largely failures of the imagination. For example, Japan isn't single payer, and doesn't have an absolute price list, but they have a points system which adjusts payouts for location and other factors, as well as monitors for doctors bilking the system with extra tests or procedures. A failure of the imagination, resolved with an extant system elsewhere in the world.


Are there similar fleshed out plans that headoff similar questions for the wealth tax? You know, like real world examples in other countries and/or general frameworks by accountants/economists? That would probably be received better than us here shooting the poop. I couldn't seem to find anything, and haven't yet gotten a response from Richard Wolff, Mark Blythe, or Matt Bruenig.

Often Abbreviated
Dec 19, 2017

1st Severia Tank Brigade
"Ghosts of Honcharivske"
I'm still not sure what your questions are. Like the money reduction thing, yes the govt can take money out of circulation by taxing and then not spending. But that's independent of there being a wealth tax. They can do that with any taxation. It's purely a factor of how much they take in vs put out.

Have you tried looking up "Wealth tax" on wiki? There's a bunch of countries that operate it in one form or another right now. Might be better to look there than tweeting big-name economists.

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Farm Frenzy posted:

shut up loser

— Me, to the dead coca farmers trying to spoil my good time.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Prince Myshkin posted:

— Me, to the dead coca farmers trying to spoil my good time.

you are posting on the something awful forums

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


Prince Myshkin posted:

— Me, to the dead coca farmers trying to spoil my good time.

Wait hang on

Are you telling me


There is no such thing as moral consumption





Under CRAPITALISM???????

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


Antifada chat: I like them! They are a but awkward but their hearts are in the right place and they can be very informative. Sometimes they tend towards sex and drugs socialism, which might not be for everyone. The Matt episodes are great, and they did an episode on Gladio and Propaganda Due that I enjoyed. Also, I know Molly Crabapple is not particularly welcome in this subforum but the episode where she was on to talk about Puerto Rico booting out governor Rosselló is legit better than 99% of the English-language reporting on the matter.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Larry Parrish posted:

why worry about any of that stuff when we can instead shoot the rich people and the people who say we shouldn't shoot the rich people

because sometimes someone has the wrong opinions about video games

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

because sometimes someone has the wrong opinions about video games

Or Star Wars.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

ur in my world now posted:

vibrating with drunk aunt energy in QCS because the mods hit me with a sexer

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

gh0stpinballa posted:

as someone just observing the discourse here i think the problem, is that people who want "sex person" to be their personality, have not yet evolved language to discuss sex that is not cringe, and there is an obviously funny clash between wanting to be a sexer while being a nerdlet + using cringe language to try to be a cool sexer while sitting on cakes.

my prescription would be a loving consensual relationship with a hot person, until sexers stop vibrating with drunk aunt energy and grow up a little. :)

you have a number of interlocking neuroses don't you

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Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


sorry for bringing up podcasts itt but lol cnn published an article on the trillbillies

https://twitter.com/thetrillbillies/status/1200483235261820928?s=21

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