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asecondduck posted:You know, a failure of the PT that I hadn't really considered before now is that Obi-Wan is supposed to come across as an inflexible, controlling, cultish handler that's actually hurting Anakin but because Anakin keeps doing stupid boneheaded stuff like leaping hundreds of yards down through traffic, and the fact that Ewan McGregor is just inherently likable and hams up some of the doofier bits of the material ("Hello there!") and you end up agreeing with Obi-Wan over angry, impulsive, emolord Anakin most of the time. Obi Wan was charming and likeable and very, very wrong in the OT as well.
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Clipperton posted:"Here's a bunch of mannequins walking through the plot, any emotional content is left as an exercise for the Since film #1, three of the most popular characters in Star Wars have been the scary guy in a face-obscuring mask, the cylinder with wheels, and the drat near actual mannequin in gold.
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Nov 29, 2019 00:55
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Excuse me, it's the magic trash can
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Absolutely calling bullshit on the idea that anyone likes C3PO
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Creepio, on the other hand, is everyone's favorite
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Freakazoid_ posted:Why did the tusken raiders torture her anyway? I got the impression it was meant to be implied violence/sexual assaults like in old westerns. The kind of thing that would make John Wayne a hero for killing the Natives but trying to turn it to while Anakin's anger is understandable, killing everyone in response was monstrous and Padme's reaction of not being *that* bothered by the massacre shows her flawed viewpoint. For all of the discussion of if character or species X is racist, it seems like it is weird that there isn't more about the Tusken Raiders since they never get presented as much (anything?) more than "Stock Western Evil Indians" with all of the racist baggage that comes with that.
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Nov 29, 2019 01:50
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They take potshots at pod racers, so they can't be all bad.
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sassassin posted:Obi Wan was charming and likeable and very, very wrong in the OT as well. from a certain point of view
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Nov 29, 2019 02:24
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Not sure how Sand People can be racist when you literally can't see their skin color, tbh. For all you know they're all White people under there.
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Nov 29, 2019 02:30
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Who are the biggest racist characters, Watto, Jar-Jar, or the Ferengi
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Hatter106 posted:Just to join the Last Jedi hate-in... hahahaha
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Bilirubin posted:Who are the biggest racist characters, Watto, Jar-Jar, or the Ferengi You mean as in the characters reflect their creators' bigotry or that the characters are themselves racist? Because you should hear the poo poo Watto says when he thinks he's among friends.
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porfiria posted:You mean as in the characters reflect their creators' bigotry or that the characters are themselves racist? Because you should hear the poo poo Watto says when he thinks he's among friends. I'm sure he has a few choice comments about the jedi lol meant to say caricatures, got autocorrect or just dyslexed it IDK
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Nov 29, 2019 02:56
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After Anakins little rampage the sand people start toning down their crimes to just knocking people out with sticks and dancing around a little
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Are the sand people wearing headgear? I always thought that's just how they were
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Nov 29, 2019 03:58
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They are going to reboot Star Wars in 2035. It'll be gritty and honest and it'll include EARTH.
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Nov 29, 2019 03:58
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Bilirubin posted:hahahaha I agree. TLJ is a joke.
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Nov 29, 2019 04:06
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"This Star War is far too techy" might be my favorite dumb critique of that movie ever. I think theres a lot of valid criticism people have of TLJ even if I disagree, but man thats a good one.
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Nov 29, 2019 04:10
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I have to point out how loving bad that 'this is the last page in the story of skywalker' line of sheev's is. since when has he been this satanic nemesis of the skywalker line
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The eighties, I think.
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Horizon Burning posted:I have to point out how loving bad that 'this is the last page in the story of skywalker' line of sheev's is. since when has he been this satanic nemesis of the skywalker line We have no idea what the actual context of that line will be in the film, though. Getting pissed off about how bad you imagine a film might be based on a line from a trailer makes no sense. I mean, it's a modern Star Wars film, there will probably be enough weak points in the film to actually bitch about without inventing them beforehand.
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PT6A posted:We have no idea what the actual context of that line will be in the film, though. Getting pissed off about how bad you imagine a film might be based on a line from a trailer makes no sense. where in the world do you think you're posting?
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PT6A posted:We have no idea what the actual context of that line will be in the film, though. Getting pissed off about how bad you imagine a film might be based on a line from a trailer makes no sense. Go away JJ.
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Hatter106 posted:Any proper Star Wars movie should be- Bleck posted:problem with TLJ is that it clashes with a lot of people's expectations about what it should have been, which you may recognize as not being a problem at all
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Horizon Burning posted:I have to point out how loving bad that 'this is the last page in the story of skywalker' line of sheev's is. since when has he been this satanic nemesis of the skywalker line I mean the guys rise to power, sustain of that power and loss of that power and now quest to regain that power has primarily been at the hands of a Skywalker. Its heavily hinted at he "manifested" Anakin via the force so he kind of started the bloodline as we know it. The dudes entire MO is almost "manipulate the Skywalker bloodline for my own gain"
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Nov 29, 2019 04:46
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Palpatine has been killed twice already to no apparent effect. I think times 3+ aren't going to make much of a difference at this point and he'll be around chewing the galaxy's scenery until there are no more stars to have wars
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Nov 29, 2019 04:52
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A good subversion of expectations TLJ could have done would be to not clumsily copy an original trilogy movie a second time in a row, but that one was just too big an ask.
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Mischievous Mink posted:A good subversion of expectations TLJ could have done would be to not clumsily copy an original trilogy movie a second time in a row, but that one was just too big an ask. Ah, but by doing that, it subverted your expectation that they wouldn't just do the laziest thing possible twice in a row!
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No Mods No Masters posted:Palpatine has been killed twice already to no apparent effect. I think times 3+ aren't going to make much of a difference at this point and he'll be around chewing the galaxy's scenery until there are no more stars to have wars Twice?
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AccountSupervisor posted:Its heavily hinted at he "manifested" Anakin via the force I'm fuckin sorry?
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Pollyanna posted:I'm fuckin sorry? It got canonically revealed to be the case in the Darth Vader marvel comics, pretty sure. I haven't read them but I remember someone saying that recently in here.
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AccountSupervisor posted:"This Star War is far too techy" might be my favorite dumb critique of that movie ever. I think theres a lot of valid criticism people have of TLJ even if I disagree, but man thats a good one. My favorite was "if hyperspace ramming were possible why isn't everyone already doing it with purposefully-made ships? Therefore it can't be possible and they messed up."
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Bruceski posted:My favorite was "if hyperspace ramming were possible why isn't everyone already doing it with purposefully-made ships? Therefore it can't be possible and they messed up." It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than constantly trying to crank out Death Stars.
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Bilirubin posted:Twice? Once when he was calling himself palpatine and once when he was calling himself snoke
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Mischievous Mink posted:It got canonically revealed to be the case in the Darth Vader marvel comics, pretty sure. I haven't read them but I remember someone saying that recently in here. No doubt the comics reveal a lot of stuff, but Anakin not having a father when his mother was a slave ain't necessarily a mystery.
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I'd kinda like it if Finn actually turned around and owned his Stormtrooper training. Get some mismatched armor, show he knows how to aim a rifle or something. At least he started using that electric stick at the end of TLJ
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Mischievous Mink posted:It'd be a hell of a lot cheaper than constantly trying to crank out Death Stars. Depends on the goal. A Death Star can not only blow up a planet but keep doing so. I think we can assume that to blow up a planet with a hyperspace missile you would need something of comparable mass. She disabled a much larger ship, and the resulting shock/shrapnel did a bunch of damage to the rest of the fleet, but eyeballing it I'd say scaling up would be about equivalent to hitting the Earth with the Moon. And you only get to do it once.
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It may not reduce a planet to dust, but ramming it at lightspeed with a transport full of scrap metal would probably be enough to render the planet uninhabitable.
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Siegkrow posted:I'd kinda like it if Finn actually turned around and owned his Stormtrooper training. Get some mismatched armor, show he knows how to aim a rifle or something. I mean
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Bruceski posted:Depends on the goal. A Death Star can not only blow up a planet but keep doing so. I think we can assume that to blow up a planet with a hyperspace missile you would need something of comparable mass. She disabled a much larger ship, and the resulting shock/shrapnel did a bunch of damage to the rest of the fleet, but eyeballing it I'd say scaling up would be about equivalent to hitting the Earth with the Moon. And you only get to do it once. If the moon hit the Earth it would render the planet entirely uninhabitable and ruined, and that'd be at sub-light speeds, not going at hyperspace speed. Only getting to do it once isn't a bad cost, the first order didn't seem set back at all losing the starkiller base, if they devoted all that manpower and all those resources to a bunch of big dummy ships with hyperdrives on them I think they'd get way more bang for their buck by far and it wouldn't be beyond their means at all.
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