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i cried and creid
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Sydin posted:Isn't the new game supposed to be good? It is. Feels very star wars kind of like the mandalorian.
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# ? Nov 28, 2019 22:14 |
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sassassin posted:That Maul is "wasted" is the joke. He's a cool scary demon Sheev sends out to die like a punk while he glad-hands his way to world domination. The obvious enemy falls while the phantom menace thrives. Maul should have been the Vader of the Prequels. He was a good retake on what it was to be a Sith. A fast one looking and spewing hatred. He should have killed Quigon, hosed up Obi wan, but leaves him alive. Second film should have been Obi wan tilting to the dark side, with such hatred against Maul. And hes training Anakin to kill Maul. Third film should be Anakin saving Obi-wan from falling, but falls himself. happyhippy fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Nov 29, 2019 |
# ? Nov 28, 2019 22:17 |
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Knives Out looks like a quirky parlor murder mystery, Brick was a quirky noir murder mystery, Rian Johnson should have been in his element making a quirky western/samurai, but he didn't even try which makes me really consider that:The Protagonist posted:TLJ wasn't a movie, it was an improvised franchise sabotage explosive device
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# ? Nov 28, 2019 22:18 |
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QuarkJets posted:"How dare they" I whispered aloud when Luke threw his lightsaber away. "This is a travesty. I am shocked at what I'm seeing here." It's ok to admit you found that hilarious along with the your momma prank phone call at the beginning. May I also recommend some Adam Sandler movies or The Big Bang Theory?
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# ? Nov 28, 2019 22:19 |
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Just Chamber posted:It's ok to admit you found that hilarious along with the your momma prank phone call at the beginning. May I also recommend some Adam Sandler movies or The Big Bang Theory? lol way to identify yourself as being the butt of the joke
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# ? Nov 28, 2019 22:21 |
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QuarkJets posted:lol way to identify yourself as being the butt of the joke It's a poo poo film and that scene is godawful i'll happily admit to giving a poo poo about Star Wars in the Star Wars thread
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# ? Nov 28, 2019 22:46 |
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*openly weeping in front of a webcam* My childhood, Disney has stolen my childhood, internet please tell me how to report jj abrams and rian johnson for war crimes
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# ? Nov 28, 2019 23:12 |
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Im mostly astonished that the big wigs at disney went with in the first place in the form that it ended up in.
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# ? Nov 28, 2019 23:32 |
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QuarkJets posted:*openly weeping in front of a webcam* My childhood, Disney has stolen my childhood, internet please tell me how to report jj abrams and rian johnson for war crimes Now you're just trying too hard
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# ? Nov 28, 2019 23:35 |
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happyhippy posted:Maul should have been the Vader of the Prequels. He was a good retake on what it was to be a Sith. A fast one looking and spewing hatred. Some people really want a scary villain they can boo (or cheer) rather than the Enemy being the weakness of the modern political system, where democracy dies to rapturous applause. It's more comforting to imagine all life's tragedies can be traced back to a red dude with horns and an exotic religion of hate. Star Wars was never that childish despite being films made for kids.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 00:05 |
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lol he falls down a giant hole and that's the end of him ahahaha
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 00:09 |
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sassassin posted:Some people really want a scary villain they can boo (or cheer) rather than the Enemy being the weakness of the modern political system, where democracy dies to rapturous applause. We're talking about Star Wars
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 00:26 |
sassassin posted:Some people really want a scary villain they can boo (or cheer) rather than the Enemy being the weakness of the modern political system, where democracy dies to rapturous applause...It's more comforting to imagine all life's tragedies can be traced back to a red dude with horns and an exotic religion of hate.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 01:01 |
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Saint Drogo posted:the Enemy is actually a wizard who looks like this though But most of the time he doesn't look like that. He takes over the galaxy because people vote him into absolute authority. The lightning is just for fun.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 01:23 |
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sassassin posted:But most of the time he doesn't look like that. He takes over the galaxy because people vote him into absolute authority. The lightning is just for fun. but he used sith mind control on them to make them vote for him dont you see
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 01:30 |
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I mean Star Wars at the end of the day is a traditional tale about heroes and villains so you do kind of need the big bombastic bad guys. I'm happy for the main villain to be a fairly boring scheming bureaucrat if he's done well (Palpatine until the end of the prequels, Krennic) but old school James Bond got it right: your villain can be bland but if that's the case he needs to have some fairly ludicrous and fun henchmen to help balance things out (in a silly film such as Star Wars). Which is why Maul is good. Its also another reason Solo is so forgettable as the main bad guy is just some arms dealer (holo Maul doesn't count). Star wars was totally childish. Especially in ANH where Vader is the main villain and that dude is cartoony as hell. He's a 7 foot tall, magic robot man. Palatine turns out to be an old guy in a chair but he's also a wizard who shoots lightning, as Drogo points out ( for the prequels he takes a step back allowing the cartoon villains to shine). Just Chamber fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Nov 29, 2019 |
# ? Nov 29, 2019 01:36 |
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If your argument is "Maul is to Palpatine what Oddjob is to Goldfinger", then Maul needed to have actually loving DONE something fun other than appear menacing. Oddjob was at least good for a few ludicrous, fun moments. Maul just shows up, cuts down Qui Gon and dies while looking constipated. He's not a fun, fairly ludicrous henchman. He's just a sour jackass.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 01:46 |
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Krennic was cool, he was a tired climber in the empire capable of casual cruelty but not cunning enough to save his own skin. Ben Mendelssohn played him well and he had a sick powder white cape
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 01:53 |
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Krennics costume was great because it tells such a story when Tarkin, basically the President of Space, is confident enough in his position to wear a simple military tunic. But the head of this weird DARPA project really wants that clout and dresses like he's galactic royalty.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 02:02 |
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I'm not arguing that Lucas used Maul in the henchman role effectively, but that Maul would definitely fall in the henchman category, although the characters don't realise this. Also you can't equate it exactly 1:1 with Bond as Bond knows it's camp. Firstly he's a henchman because he has zero autonomy or goals, he's just following Palpantine's commands, furthermore he looks ridiculous which is a key part of the henchman code, he has a unique weapon, he practically never speaks, he pursues our heroes along their journey, fights them once albeit briefly and they have to flee, reports to his boss and let's him know the situation and then finally confronts the good guys, where he's enough of a threat that he kills one of them but then is quickly dispatched in comical fashion. If you take TPM as chapter one of three he definitely fits the role imo. You are correct that he wasn't used well and enough though. He's a potentially great henchman used poorly. Grevious falls into a similar category. But yes sadly neither of them are fun in the campy James Bond sense but instead in the prequels the fun comes from how drat weird they are, especially in comparison to the fairly bland characters around them. Just look at Maul compared to the grey nothing that is Padme or Qui Gon. As soon as you look at him you're like woah who the hell is this guy? But yes incredibly wasted potential. Edit: spelling bad very tired and on phone Just Chamber fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Nov 29, 2019 |
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sassassin posted:It's more comforting to imagine all life's tragedies can be traced back to a red dude with horns and an exotic religion of hate. Star Wars was never that childish despite being films made for kids. Yes it was, rewatch the OT maybe
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 02:21 |
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Kazak posted:Krennic was cool, he was a tired climber in the empire capable of casual cruelty but not cunning enough to save his own skin. Ben Mendelssohn played him well and he had a sick powder white cape Owlbear Camus posted:Krennics costume was great because it tells such a story when Tarkin, basically the President of Space, is confident enough in his position to wear a simple military tunic. But the head of this weird DARPA project really wants that clout and dresses like he's galactic royalty. Really wish Rogue One dropped the Saw/China story lines and gave us more insight into the inner workings of the Empire. Krennic was the most interesting character in the movie, and it would have been awesome to have seen more of him.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 02:23 |
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Just Chamber posted:Grevious falls into a similar category. But yes sadly neither of them are fun in the campy James Bond sense but instead in the prequels the fun comes from how drat weird they are, especially in comparison to the fairly bland characters around them. It'd be cool if those "weird" traits weren't things like a pack-a-day smoker's cough that detract from the character's menace. It's ad lib character design
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 02:33 |
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MrFlibble posted:
Also another character committed suicide to buy them time immediately after this scene
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 02:59 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Also another character committed suicide to buy them time immediately after this scene It's buying time suicides all the way down.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:02 |
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QuarkJets posted:It'd be cool if those "weird" traits weren't things like a pack-a-day smoker's cough that detract from the character's menace. It's ad lib character design Yea good old General "throw darts at board of ideas" Grevious. He apparently gets damaged in the cartoon but 99% of people never watched that so it's dumb. You're right that Lucas and co literally threw a million things at him but still I kinda appreciate that we got a bug man in a robot suit who can walk like a spider has six lightsabers and twirls his fingers like a 1900s villain. It's super dumb but it was for kids and I think most kids thought he was cool. In 20+ years time we'll still remember more about General Grevious than 90% of any Marvel villain etc. But yes still very wasted.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:02 |
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Also another character committed suicide to buy them time immediately after this scene The first suicide wasn't to buy anyone time, that's why everyone in the movie called it a stupid idea. "Let's throw away a bunch of resources pointlessly" is a bad idea
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:02 |
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Just Chamber posted:Yea good old General "throw darts at board of ideas" Grevious. He apparently gets damaged in the cartoon but 99% of people never watched that so it's dumb. You're right that Lucas and co literally threw a million things at him but still I kinda appreciate that we got a bug man in a robot suit who can walk like a spider has six lightsabers and twirls his fingers like a 1900s villain. It's super dumb but it was for kids and I think most kids thought he was cool. Yeah his problem is that he's not focused on being any particular thing, he's a Jedi Assassin and a Cool Bug Robot and a general and a hundred other things when all he needed were just those first two.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:06 |
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Like I legit wonder if George Lucas wanted Darth Vader to die at the end of ANH and everyone around him was like "No, that is a really bad idea" so they added a scene of him flying away at the last minute He probably also wanted to film Darth Vader working on a ship in a bottle or some poo poo
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:10 |
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QuarkJets posted:The first suicide wasn't to buy anyone time, that's why everyone in the movie called it a stupid idea. "Let's throw away a bunch of resources pointlessly" is a bad idea I think the suicides they're talking about are Holdos and Luke's. The movie tells us the bombing run suicides were bad but if they hadn't taken out that big rear end dreadnought that chase would have ended in about 5 minutes.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:12 |
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Everyone just be killing themselves in these star wars. They want out of the script!
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:13 |
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CharlestonJew posted:The movie tells us the bombing run suicides were bad but if they hadn't taken out that big rear end dreadnought that chase would have ended in about 5 minutes. Except presumably they'd still have all of those bombers and could still blow it up later Like maybe we could have a tense space battle with some stakes instead of a pointless suicide mission followed by a prolonged low speed car chase
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:28 |
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CharlestonJew posted:I think the suicides they're talking about are Holdos and Luke's. The movie tells us the bombing run suicides were bad but if they hadn't taken out that big rear end dreadnought that chase would have ended in about 5 minutes. why is that? subspace speed and fuel were the factors in the chase, not military might. snokes star destroyer is more powerful than the dreadnought no?
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:30 |
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I admire quarkjets' commitment to repeatedly running his dick and balls through a printing press and acting like he is smart for doing so.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:37 |
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The Walrus posted:why is that? subspace speed and fuel were the factors in the chase, not military might. snokes star destroyer is more powerful than the dreadnought no? As far as I could tell snokes star destroyer didnt have the big rear end cannon that the dreadnought did, presumably that would have punched thru the shields much faster than the resistance would have run out of fuel, and considering that it could bomb a planet from orbit distance wouldnt have been an issue
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 03:44 |
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Horizon Burning posted:I admire quarkjets' commitment to repeatedly running his dick and balls through a printing press and acting like he is smart for doing so. What is this analogy even supposed to mean? This could have been a sick burn if you'd used carefully chosen words instead of random garbage but I guess that's asking a lot
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 04:19 |
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edit: double post- meant for the Star Wars thread, not the Star Wars thread
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 04:49 |
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TLJ was on tv last night, first time I've seen it. It wasn't terrible, kind of long though.
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# ? Nov 29, 2019 05:08 |
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Iceberg Empire pullin off the lot frost chrome 2 seat snow moon speeder
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