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Someone linked to the google doc that already is a quite comprehensive documentation afaik?
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Nov 29, 2019 09:19
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What about the whole wreath laying thing? As people do seem intent on bringing that up every time.
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Nov 29, 2019 09:20
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As much as I like Labours proposed changes to maternity and paternity leave. I think it needs to be longer for dads still. A 3 month minimum should be standard as a month isn't loving long enough.
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Nov 29, 2019 09:26
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coffeetable posted:also because any forum selects heavily for people who want to talk rather than do People are posting on a daily basis about going out and getting active to help Labour campaign but sure, just write us off as a bunch of lazy slackers
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Nov 29, 2019 09:31
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I want to state for the record I am a lazy slacker.
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Nov 29, 2019 09:33
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It's hard to see why the Tories decided to turn this into a big row. It seems obvious to me people will think Boris is frit, especially with the Andrew Neil thing, and it's so hard to defend him not turning up. Isn't it going to he more damaging to his image as leader to be thought of as cowardly than if they just tried to let the climate debate quietly pass by?
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Nov 29, 2019 09:36
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Rarity posted:People are posting on a daily basis about going out and getting active to help Labour campaign but sure, just write us off as a bunch of lazy slackers But Rarity you're not giving some of your vast wealth to the third world so are you even really a leftist???
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Nov 29, 2019 09:37
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I'm not sure they're capable of letting it slide because they're a bunch of entitled pricks. Very much a mogg insulting poors thing, essential to the tory character that they can't ignore the insult.
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Miftan posted:But Rarity you're not giving some of your vast wealth to the third world so are you even really a leftist??? I have a regular donation with Oxfam 
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Nov 29, 2019 09:39
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I went out on my first canvassing session last night. Honestly though it was kind of disappointing i got there and found only two other people had turned up. So there was three of us tramping the street. On the positive side we got a pretty good response in general and boris and the Americans are going to gently caress the NHS sold well. Still we could use more help to defend this marginal if any of you are near stockton south
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Nov 29, 2019 09:42
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Ferrosol posted:I went out on my first canvassing session last night. Honestly though it was kind of disappointing i got there and found only two other people had turned up. So there was three of us tramping the street. In my experience the weekdays session are usually 3-5 people unless you're somewhere like London and even then.. It's the weekend session in marginals that are packed.
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Nov 29, 2019 09:46
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You're also fighting with middlesbrough south next door which went tory last election after the incumbent hosed off the minute it was called, and we're trying to get it back.
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Nov 29, 2019 09:47
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Miftan posted:In my experience the weekdays session are usually 3-5 people unless you're somewhere like London and even then.. It's the weekend session in marginals that are packed. Funnily enough, during canvassing yesterday there were around 12 of us - quite a bit higher than the last time I canvassed (which was on the weekend). Hopefully shows more people getting involved and wanting to make a difference.
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Nov 29, 2019 09:54
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Gwaint posted:Funnily enough, during canvassing yesterday there were around 12 of us - quite a bit higher than the last time I canvassed (which was on the weekend). Hopefully shows more people getting involved and wanting to make a difference. That's really good! Good luck!
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Nov 29, 2019 09:55
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Suddenly the melts briefing about Labour "pivoting" and all that poo poo makes sense - Labour are launching "regional manifestos" to explain how they're going to invest in specific areas. So now this thing which is obviously a long-planned part of the campaign can be dismissed, like the NHS papers, as a sign of weakness.
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Nov 29, 2019 09:57
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Ms Adequate posted:Friend of mine came home to find he got robbed yesterday, they cleared them out. Fortunately everyone including the cats are physically fine, but it's well poo poo.  Was it someone local?
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Nov 29, 2019 10:03
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Suddenly the melts briefing about Labour "pivoting" and all that poo poo makes sense - Labour are launching "regional manifestos" to explain how they're going to invest in specific areas. So now this thing which is obviously a long-planned part of the campaign can be dismissed, like the NHS papers, as a sign of weakness. Also an excellent idea in general because it's hard for us to say how much or what part of the big spending pledges we're actually gonna see up here because obviously the north is usually left well behind.
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Jakabite posted:As a long time lurker who only really posts when I feel it's needed I have to say - why the gently caress are you all ignoring this? It seems to indicate a trend I've noticed in my rare postings that calls to actual action are ignored - I've posted a few times letting people know about good activist events that could use numbers, and been roundly ignored each time. I know this comes off as bitter but it's never bothered me - people are busy and may not have time for what I'm pushing. But it does bother me when someone is asking for help with something that this thread could be a huge resource for, with very little effort. You all really need to engage with this sort of thing more as it's one of the few things a (very solid, very good generally) online community is actually practically useful for. I agree with coffeetable (oh god). No offence to JordanKai but he's not the only person in the last three years to come up with the idea of collating information. Also there were three hours between your two posts, at night, maybe give people some time to string an effort post together. Bit obtuse to come into the thread with its own political podcast and a bunch of j4g momentum members and scream about people not participating, tbh. For actual content: The evergreen https://twitter.com/davidgraeber/status/1170032483859148800?s=19 The tory fibs rebuttal document https://twitter.com/ToryFibs/status/1199042993841483776?s=19 Michael Rosen's article https://twitter.com/MichaelRosenYes/status/1199958472315539456?s=19
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Nov 29, 2019 10:13
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Blinks77 posted:What about the whole wreath laying thing? Yeah, but what about it? He went to a wreath laying ceremony in remembrance of people killed by an Israeli airstrike on PLO headquarters, it's pretty consistent with his belief in the necessity of a peace process. I mean, this also comes from the same place that criticized him for meeting with ‘hardline republicans’ - it’s reactionary. To, in a sense, depoliticise this with moral outrage as anti-semitism or evidence of sympathy for anti-semitic views is grossly misleading.
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Nov 29, 2019 10:23
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Sorry thread, I was just in a bad mood, you're all good eggs.
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Nov 29, 2019 10:23
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Re: the IRA stuff, Thatcher also met with the IRA at the same time, she just lied about it  But as with everything, such as May unveiling a statue to a literal nazi supporter yesterday, it doesn't matter because the press don't report it. Won't report it. Because the british press will never suggests that the british imperial state or its upholders could possibly be bad.
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Nov 29, 2019 10:25
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From the Guardian livefeed (currently about Boris Johnson on LBC): The nurse who called in says the PM’s comments have “done nothing” to convince her that she should keep going to work. Johnson sighs.
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Nov 29, 2019 10:30
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It was meant to be another managed chummy chat and even Nick Ferrari is blindsiding him
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Nov 29, 2019 10:31
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I know it's been linked before, but can someone link the support Corbyn has done for Jewish peoples?
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Nov 29, 2019 10:43
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Pennfalath posted:From the Guardian livefeed (currently about Boris Johnson on LBC): Going by that liveblog it's a car crash of an interview 
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Nov 29, 2019 10:47
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u brexit ukip it posted:Going by that liveblog it's a car crash of an interview Yeah, I'm at work so I can't listen to it, but when I get home, I'll put it on. I am following the liveblog though. " A caller says she is a single mother and doesn’t appreciate his comments about single mothers made in a Spectator column in 1995. These are 25 year-old quotations from “before I was even in politics”, Johnson says (...) The quotations are “absolute distortions of what I said”, Johnson adds (...) "
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Nov 29, 2019 10:49
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Probably a good idea have all these rebuttal things in the op of the next thread.
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Samovar posted:I know it's been linked before, but can someone link the support Corbyn has done for Jewish peoples? https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR-tiGv2w89fnqY1_cPygN8VlP4uROfF9ys8THXB1p0r-UTAPgmx5g3pgWfr-aeo3G3Ka1S-bbtmD1w/pub
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LBC posted:How come that Johnson is prepared to comment on other people’s children if he isn’t prepared to talk about his own?, Ferrari asks. “How many children do you have? Are you fully and wholly involved in all their lives?” 
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When LBC start pushing clips I recommend going in and watching/listening to the whole interview - Momentum are going to have a field day clipping
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I think the other half of that update is the funnier half because johnson definitively answers the question of the ship of theseus.quote:Ferrari quizzes the PM on misleading pledges about building “new” hospitals, when really some of them will only be rebuilt. Johnson says that he feels a rebuilt hospital is a new one. Which is to say if you replace any parts of a thing while being a tory it counts as a new thing.
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brawleh posted:Yeah, but what about it? He went to a wreath laying ceremony in remembrance of people killed by an Israeli airstrike on PLO headquarters, it's pretty consistent with his belief in the necessity of a peace process. I mean, this also comes from the same place that criticized him for meeting with ‘hardline republicans’ - it’s reactionary. if they're of a Blair-leaning persuasion, point out that Blair considered the PLO the legitimate government of Palestine
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Samovar posted:I know it's been linked before, but can someone link the support Corbyn has done for Jewish peoples? I just remembered the seething outrage when he went to Jewdas' Seder because they were *the wrong kind of Jews*
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https://twitter.com/BonitaRochelle/status/1200184715711590400
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Nov 29, 2019 10:55
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Lol at boris telling ferrari to change the subject via hand signal. https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson_MP/status/1200350094895304704
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Guavanaut posted:That sucks Nah they live in Memphis lol
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quote:Asked about the cladding crisis across the country the Grenfell distaster has sparked, Johnson says he’s planning to look at the issue from “top to bottom”. “What does that mean?”, Ferrari intervenes. He never liked this type of cladding, the PM says, but fails to give an answer containing any figures, research or detailed approaches the government might be considering.
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Help I'm fallen down the rabbit hole of left-wing TikTok send help https://twitter.com/877KashNow/status/1189253352049270784
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tithin posted:https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR-tiGv2w89fnqY1_cPygN8VlP4uROfF9ys8THXB1p0r-UTAPgmx5g3pgWfr-aeo3G3Ka1S-bbtmD1w/pub Thankee
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