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anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Taear posted:

I'm coming back now with all the DLC after having played the campaign ages ago and I'm starting with career mode.

It feels like the missions are harder than they were before. I've done a flashpoint - which was fun - but a lot of my missions seem to have 8 medium mechs in or more and I just can't handle it. Right now I've got two Enforcers with L Laser and AC10s which I think is contributing to my difficulty because they run out of ammo quite fast it feels like.
What can I do to make them better? Is there anything?

What other Mechs do you have?

Not a fan of the Enforcer's stock loadout because there isn't enough ammo for the AC10. I think you'll be better off replacing the AC10s and putting in an LBX-2 or UAC-5 on one of them and making that a long-range plinker, and making the other a pure ML brawler with JJs and max armor.

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Taear
Nov 26, 2004

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anakha posted:

What other Mechs do you have?

Not a fan of the Enforcer's stock loadout because there isn't enough ammo for the AC10. I think you'll be better off replacing the AC10s and putting in an LBX-2 or UAC-5 on one of them and making that a long-range plinker, and making the other a pure ML brawler with JJs and max armor.

Right now I've got a Phoenix Hawk, a Crab, an Assassin (where I've replaced the LRMs all with SRMs, he's pretty good) and a Shadow Hawk.

I remember that first time round I hated large lasers and I feel like I've ended up with a lot of mechs that I kinda HAVE to use them with.

raverrn
Apr 5, 2005

Unidentified spacecraft inbound from delta line.

All Silpheed squadrons scramble now!


anakha posted:

What other Mechs do you have?

Not a fan of the Enforcer's stock loadout because there isn't enough ammo for the AC10. I think you'll be better off replacing the AC10s and putting in an LBX-2 or UAC-5 on one of them and making that a long-range plinker, and making the other a pure ML brawler with JJs and max armor.

The Enforcer also isn't /bad/ as an AC/20 caddy. It alone puts out as much damage as the AC/10 and Large Laser, and one with three tons of ammo saves you weight and heat over the two.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

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raverrn posted:

The Enforcer also isn't /bad/ as an AC/20 caddy. It alone puts out as much damage as the AC/10 and Large Laser, and one with three tons of ammo saves you weight and heat over the two.

This sounds like a decent plan. My main issue with ACs is if it misses I'm just doing absolutely nothing and I hate it.

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

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Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Taear posted:

Right now I've got a Phoenix Hawk, a Crab, an Assassin (where I've replaced the LRMs all with SRMs, he's pretty good) and a Shadow Hawk.

I remember that first time round I hated large lasers and I feel like I've ended up with a lot of mechs that I kinda HAVE to use them with.

SHawk is the better of the lot there with SRM16 2 tons ammo, mlas, slas, 2 heatsinks and 5 jump jets.

Remember ammo goes in the legs and jets go in the torsos (CT unless you've got a gyro).

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

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Conspiratiorist posted:

SHawk is the better of the lot there with SRM16 2 tons ammo, mlas, slas, 2 heatsinks and 5 jump jets.

Remember ammo goes in the legs and jets go in the torsos (CT unless you've got a gyro).

I know that part, I've played before as I said - I did the campaign.
I'm using the Shawk but it definitely still feels harder, I don't remember having any missions with 8 medium mechs attacking me together before for example, it's only two skulls!

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

Great, honourably decided to duel Bogdan ( The Steel Beast) and he jumped me. Tried to kite him with a coil-m assassin but the adds are too much. Can I leave the area and do another flashpoint until I find a better 50 tonner, or how do I beat this guy?!?

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

I used a hatchetman with an erl for ranged damage, max armor, and melee mods. It beat the poo poo out of him pretty easy. My ERL does 60 damage with higher heat than stock.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
I used a Hunchy G, and I had enough morale to precision-shoot him into CT with an AC/20 twice in a row...

Organ Fiend
May 21, 2007

custom title

Mugsbaloney posted:

Great, honourably decided to duel Bogdan ( The Steel Beast) and he jumped me. Tried to kite him with a coil-m assassin but the adds are too much. Can I leave the area and do another flashpoint until I find a better 50 tonner, or how do I beat this guy?!?

Screw honor and drop an assault lance on him. There's no penalty for doing so. The Lyrans just want him dead.

If you already made the flashpoint decision to fight him 1v1, load a prior save.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Taear posted:

This sounds like a decent plan. My main issue with ACs is if it misses I'm just doing absolutely nothing and I hate it.

If you have the heavy metal expansion then you can get LBX cannons that spray like missiles.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

If you have the heavy metal expansion then you can get LBX cannons that spray like missiles.

I've got all of them like I said in the first post, yea.
I do have a few of those in my arsenal but they're a ton less weight than the AC10, is it still worth it?

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
I have decided that the UAC20 is the love of my life.

Is there any -weight versions of it? I want to put two of them in a king crab and just :blastu:

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!

Groetgaffel posted:

I have decided that the UAC20 is the love of my life.

Is there any -weight versions of it? I want to put two of them in a king crab and just :blastu:

You're in luck.



I somehow made this monstrosity thanks to the black market. I feel like it shouldn't be possible, but it is, and it's horrifying.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Sykic posted:

You're in luck.



I somehow made this monstrosity thanks to the black market. I feel like it shouldn't be possible, but it is, and it's horrifying.

:gizz:

Do not get flanked in that thing.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World
Just got a Marauder and lol it's hilarious with that called shot bonus. Everyone is dead y'all.

Came up with this loadout and it just murders everybody:

Gauss+ (-weight)
LB 2-X++ (+dmg +crit)
2x ERML++ (+dmg)
3x DHS

If I get more DHS and some ER PPC +dmg I might try those instead.

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
My Enforcer is running triple Large Laser and doing great. That's a nice, non ammo dependent build. Long range, no minimum range and you've got 3 weapons so you can juggle heat very well.

Ghost of Babyhead
Jun 28, 2008
Grimey Drawer
Managed to lose both an Archer and a Marauder on the final two missions of the new flashpoint campaign, both brawling when they shouldn't have been. I'll never learn, RIP Comanche and Chilli. :negative: The opposition in the final mission was really cool to fight, at least.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

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DatonKallandor posted:

My Enforcer is running triple Large Laser and doing great. That's a nice, non ammo dependent build. Long range, no minimum range and you've got 3 weapons so you can juggle heat very well.

Large Lasers feel really poo poo, I feel like I'd need to be shooting all three every turn to do as much damage as a bunch of SRMs do.

Gerblyn
Apr 4, 2007

"TO BATTLE!"
Fun Shoe
Sorry for asking a question that's been asked a hunred times before, but I'm a bit lost with how the ECM is supposed to work. The tutorial says that if the Carrier ends its turn, then all units within the field get protection, right? So I do this:

1) Mech A walks out of the field and fires, losing it's protecting
2) Carrier walks forwards to put mech A into its field and ends turn

But Mech A doesn't get protection until the next round, after eating like 200 LRMs from everything in the last phase... Am I misunderstanding here? I read somewhere that I'm supposed to just use the ECM as an invisible spotter and nuke everything from a distance with LRMs, but that seems extremely dull.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011
How the hell do I get access to the black market? I'm more than liked with them and have plenty of cash and have never gotten an offer. Fly to more black market systems hoping for an event?

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Sykic posted:

You're in luck.



I somehow made this monstrosity thanks to the black market. I feel like it shouldn't be possible, but it is, and it's horrifying.

Drop some heat sinks. You'll run out of ammo before you get into heat danger

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Ravenfood posted:

How the hell do I get access to the black market? I'm more than liked with them and have plenty of cash and have never gotten an offer. Fly to more black market systems hoping for an event?

It's a random event

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Taerkar posted:

Drop some heat sinks. You'll run out of ammo before you get into heat danger

I was going to say. A heat delta of -3 is a complete waste, even in lunar biome you'll still never overheat.

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!
You can drop heat sinks, but I'll be the one laughing when three lances of Firestarters come charging over a hill.

I'm still trying to make triple UAC/20++ work. It doesn't and won't, but that won't stop me.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Taear posted:

It feels like the missions are harder than they were before. I've done a flashpoint - which was fun - but a lot of my missions seem to have 8 medium mechs in or more and I just can't handle it.

The game *is* harder than it was back at launch. The rebalance of skills made them much easier for the AI to use, so they're on a more even footing. You have to do a bit more strategizing or power mech builds to make up for it.


Taear posted:

I don't remember having any missions with 8 medium mechs attacking me together before for example, it's only two skulls!

2 to 2.5 skulls are mostly mediums. 8 grouped up together is tough, but IIRC they added more possible spawn locations for enemies in old maps? So you may have gotten unlucky with the 2 lances being put fairly close together.

Remember, you can accomplish your objective and then withdraw. (There's some new missions where this is 100% the intended effect, because some big stompy bois show up to a low-skull mission.)



Gerblyn posted:

The tutorial says that if the Carrier ends its turn, then all units within the field get protection, right?
No, it's not very well written but that's specifically referring to enemy units being inside the stealth field during the Raven's turn. Stealth is generated / refilled over turn boundaries.


And as for ECM's usefulness, when it came out you could completely abuse the AI with it. They gave the AI the ability to reserve against ECM though to be less exploitable. Spotter is the easiest way to use it, but you can still get good backstabs by manipulating initiative.


Ravenfood posted:

How the hell do I get access to the black market? I'm more than liked with them and have plenty of cash and have never gotten an offer. Fly to more black market systems hoping for an event?

The event can show up anywhere. I'm pretty sure that going into battles resets the event "clock" to zero (same as when you get an event). So if you want to chug through a lot of events, let time tick forward until you get an event before fighting a battle.

Lazyhound
Mar 1, 2004

A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous—got me?
Is there a mod to remove COIL weapons? They’re just… too conceptually dumb, to me.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

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Attack and Defend is an insane clusterfuck lol holy poo poo. I took my Raven though and lol that the enemy base is five full sprints away minimum, and lol the Capellan defense is two locusts (who instantly exploded), a crab, and a Trebuchet against at minimum eight heavy and mediums.

Lazyhound posted:

Is there a mod to remove COIL weapons? They’re just… too conceptually dumb, to me.

You're the only one who has access to them, just don't equip them and it's functionally the same :v:

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

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Klyith posted:

The game *is* harder than it was back at launch. The rebalance of skills made them much easier for the AI to use, so they're on a more even footing. You have to do a bit more strategizing or power mech builds to make up for it.


2 to 2.5 skulls are mostly mediums. 8 grouped up together is tough, but IIRC they added more possible spawn locations for enemies in old maps? So you may have gotten unlucky with the 2 lances being put fairly close together.

Remember, you can accomplish your objective and then withdraw. (There's some new missions where this is 100% the intended effect, because some big stompy bois show up to a low-skull mission.)

No, it's not very well written but that's specifically referring to enemy units being inside the stealth field during the Raven's turn. Stealth is generated / refilled over turn boundaries.


Well that sucks, I wish there was an easy mode. It was hard enough for me at release, I don't want it to be even harder!
The one I'm having problems with now is a capture so I don't think I can capture and then just withdraw without losing.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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Taear posted:

Well that sucks, I wish there was an easy mode. It was hard enough for me at release, I don't want it to be even harder!
The one I'm having problems with now is a capture so I don't think I can capture and then just withdraw without losing.

If you do career mode you can set the enemy lance configuration to easy and bump up some other stuff

You get at least one piece of guaranteed salvage on a bad faith withdraw iirc (or just a few random pieces, so good chance anyway if that's all you killed), so shoot something in the head, leave, and loot it. I got the last piece of an assault super early last campaign that way lol

MuffiTuffiWuffi
Jul 25, 2013

Came back in from release for the Heavy Metal pack, got all the DLC packs. Started a new career mode campaign and this COIL thing is hilarious. Question - is it possible to do all flashpoints on one save file, or are some if them mutually exclusive? If I want to have access to all of them should I be doing anything specific to mind my rep?

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
how do i get more double heatsinks? Is it just star league planets?

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

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MORE TAXES WHEN posted:

Came back in from release for the Heavy Metal pack, got all the DLC packs. Started a new career mode campaign and this COIL thing is hilarious. Question - is it possible to do all flashpoints on one save file, or are some if them mutually exclusive? If I want to have access to all of them should I be doing anything specific to mind my rep?

You can do them all but the Alliance FPs will take a while. Did they add any for the minor power alliances BTW?

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

I just beat the main story for the first time, was not bad. But is Victoria impossible to headshot? I wanted that sweet King Crab, but spent five minutes kiting her doing called shots on the head, must have missed 20-30 shot at an 18% chance for each to hit, and never got a single one. It feels like that has to be a coded thing, because otherwise it's just statistically extraordinarily unlikely.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

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aniviron posted:

I just beat the main story for the first time, was not bad. But is Victoria impossible to headshot? I wanted that sweet King Crab, but spent five minutes kiting her doing called shots on the head, must have missed 20-30 shot at an 18% chance for each to hit, and never got a single one. It feels like that has to be a coded thing, because otherwise it's just statistically extraordinarily unlikely.

The first shot I made on her blew her head off, you just got unlucky

You don't get to salvage it unless that changed

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
You can salvage her mech, if you save during the fight and reload.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

I didn't see a single part, so I guess it was unsalvageable anyway, fair enough.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

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Fauxtool posted:

how do i get more double heatsinks? Is it just star league planets?

Star league planets, black markets, flashpoints, maybe faction stores?

They were one of the rarest things to find but 1.8 seems to have boosted the probability of rare stuff in shops a lot. Maybe they're more common now.

RBA Starblade posted:

The first shot I made on her blew her head off, you just got unlucky

Nope, that was before they gave her a special immune to headshots power.

I thought for a while it was actually reflected in the UI, her head was blacked out so you couldn't pick it. Anyways you can only KO her with 6 knockdowns so no crabs for people anymore.


MORE TAXES WHEN posted:

Question - is it possible to do all flashpoints on one save file, or are some if them mutually exclusive? If I want to have access to all of them should I be doing anything specific to mind my rep?
It is possible but very difficult, because each major house has a flashpoint you can only do when you ally with them. When you ally with a faction their enemies hate you. And they don't reset to being chill when you break the alliance. So you have to grind 1/2 skull missions to work your rep back up.

Literally faster to play multiple careers in order to see everything.

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

Klyith posted:

Star league planets, black markets, flashpoints, maybe faction stores?

They were one of the rarest things to find but 1.8 seems to have boosted the probability of rare stuff in shops a lot. Maybe they're more common now.


Nope, that was before they gave her a special immune to headshots power.

I thought for a while it was actually reflected in the UI, her head was blacked out so you couldn't pick it. Anyways you can only KO her with 6 knockdowns so no crabs for people anymore.

It is possible but very difficult, because each major house has a flashpoint you can only do when you ally with them. When you ally with a faction their enemies hate you. And they don't reset to being chill when you break the alliance. So you have to grind 1/2 skull missions to work your rep back up.

Literally faster to play multiple careers in order to see everything.

Or use the savegame editor.

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MuffiTuffiWuffi
Jul 25, 2013

Ok thanks, all. I'll probably just end up editing the save then.

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