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Seldom Posts posted:That's exactly what I was thinking as well. Birds are like 10 times better than any other flying technology that's been developed. This is more true for the 30k Mechanicum stuff where they literally find some horrible apex predator, make a robot body for it and stick its brain in the robot and then use it as a war machine. 
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I think the flappy bird is stupid but then I don't like the look of a lot of models which if why I've never had issues with army proliferation outside of AM/Inquisition/Grey Knights/Sisters. drat, they got me anyway didn't they?
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Does anyone else remember how insanely overpowered Grey Knights were circa 5th edition
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goose willis posted:Does anyone else remember how insanely overpowered Grey Knights were circa 5th edition Nope youre the only one. Regal us.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Nope youre the only one. Regal us. Don't encourage the fartposter to post more bullshit.
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Boing posted:This is more true for the 30k Mechanicum stuff where they literally find some horrible apex predator, make a robot body for it and stick its brain in the robot and then use it as a war machine.  
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT1ye8LabGs Variety of animation styles there.
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CA stuff for orks has leaked, and I'm reasonably happy. All of the buggies except the wartrike have dropped, so that's nice. The rumored points increase for grots was wrong. Pointsdrops for deffkoptas and warbikers. Slight point increase on smasha guns. Sizeable decreases on deff dreads and killa kanz. Burna boyz got a slight point decrease, but I don't think it's going to help a lot. Similarly, even with the fairly massive forty point decrease, I don't see the squigbuggy getting a lot of use without a statline overhaul. Still, at least you can bring it without hurting yourself too much. Excitingly, Big Mek with KFF is in the CA list, which suggests it's not going into Legends. Oh, and a fifty point drop on the stompa, which isn't gonna matter whatsoever.
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That was fore sure an animated Talos and xarl and concept for the rest of first claw consider me hyped for my favorite war crimes Bois.
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Nov 30, 2019 19:29
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Any idea if the Tyranid Biotitans got point drops?
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JackMann posted:CA stuff for orks has leaked, and I'm reasonably happy. All of the buggies except the wartrike have dropped, so that's nice. The rumored points increase for grots was wrong. Pointsdrops for deffkoptas and warbikers. Slight point increase on smasha guns. Sizeable decreases on deff dreads and killa kanz. Burna boyz got a slight point decrease, but I don't think it's going to help a lot. Similarly, even with the fairly massive forty point decrease, I don't see the squigbuggy getting a lot of use without a statline overhaul. Still, at least you can bring it without hurting yourself too much. The regular mek with KFF getting a solid entry is huge. The main problem for orks right now is that they are far too squishy. This is aggravated by a couple other factors: 1. Mega armor with force field is too expensive 2. Pain boys are too expensive 3. The big detachment of boyz has to be evil suns for the speed. The new mechanic with KFF will save a bunch of points and make the boyz a lot more resilient. E; also, really happy that the walkers and buggies got a price drop. Doubt that makes buggies competitive but the principle is there. We will see with the new bikes.
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TKIY posted:Any idea if the Tyranid Biotitans got point drops? No but if the adaptations work on them that’s a significant boost. If not, well... 
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TKIY posted:Any idea if the Tyranid Biotitans got point drops? Only Tyranid FW changes were for Malanthrope & Shrikes. I haven't seen any details on FW Knights yet, does anyone know about them?
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Drukhari Archon - 15 Incubi - 2 Mandrakes - 1 Hellions - 2 Reavers - 3 Cronos - 5 Ravager + 15 Razorwing Jetfighter + 10 Drazhar - 20 Dark Lances - 5 Shardnet & Impaler +3 ———- Nerfs for the backbone of dark eldar anti tank. Drop for dark lances is needed. Cool to see both the super fast witch units get a points drop. Don’t know if it’s enough though.
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Goonhammer's already reviewed the points changes: https://www.goonhammer.com/chapter-approved-2019-balance-changes-the-goonhammer-review/ Good news for my current AdMech army, bad news for the GSC army I was going to start after Christmas. What did they do to deserve this
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Tyranid Adaptations: https://old.reddit.com/r/Tyranids/comments/e40er7/blood_of_baal_custom_hive_fleet_adaptations/ Adaptive Physiologies: https://old.reddit.com/r/Tyranids/comments/e415nw/blood_of_baal_adaptive_physiologies/ I don't see how any of those Adaptations are better than Kraken or Kronos, and some (like re-rolling one Psychic Test per turn) seem like absolute garbage. The Physiologies could be terrifying. Unnatural Reactions, Synaptic Enhancement, tons of stuff. And it doesn't seem to be limited to one unit.
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JackMann posted:CA stuff for orks has leaked, and I'm reasonably happy. All of the buggies except the wartrike have dropped, so that's nice. The rumored points increase for grots was wrong. Pointsdrops for deffkoptas and warbikers. Slight point increase on smasha guns. Sizeable decreases on deff dreads and killa kanz. Burna boyz got a slight point decrease, but I don't think it's going to help a lot. Similarly, even with the fairly massive forty point decrease, I don't see the squigbuggy getting a lot of use without a statline overhaul. Still, at least you can bring it without hurting yourself too much. Flash Gitz got a good point drop though which is good
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Hi, thread - I've been completely out of the loop of 40k for the past 15 months or so for lots of reasons - I think they were about to release some new Ork stuff last time I paid much attention? I'm planning on dusting off my collection which has been sitting around in moving boxes, can someone with time to kill give me a rundown of changes in 8E since this year or so?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:
Yeah, those Adaptations aren't super impressive but the Physiologies look decent. I really want to figure out a way to make a Trygon with scytals viable to get into melee because putting Murderous Size on it for S8 AP-4 with D6+1 damage is one hell of a sweet spot. Although Dermic Symbiosis might actually make it reliably decent.
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PantsOptional posted:Yeah, those Adaptations aren't super impressive but the Physiologies look decent. I really want to figure out a way to make a Trygon with scytals viable to get into melee because putting Murderous Size on it for S8 AP-4 with D6+1 damage is one hell of a sweet spot. Although Dermic Symbiosis might actually make it reliably decent. Hope an infantry unit is near your real target and then use the 3d6 discard lowest charge strat after killing 1+ model with shooting.
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PantsOptional posted:Yeah, those Adaptations aren't super impressive but the Physiologies look decent. I really want to figure out a way to make a Trygon with scytals viable to get into melee because putting Murderous Size on it for S8 AP-4 with D6+1 damage is one hell of a sweet spot. Although Dermic Symbiosis might actually make it reliably decent. I think Toxicrenes might see a resurgence. Six S8 AP -3 1d3+1 damage attacks that always hit first and re-roll wounds is terrifying. Plus it denies Fall Back on a 4+ or 2+, even versus flyers. I assume Murderous Size would only apply to the melee attack.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I think Toxicrenes might see a resurgence. Six S8 AP -3 1d3+1 damage attacks that always hit first and re-roll wounds is terrifying. Plus it denies Fall Back on a 4+ or 2+, even versus flyers. Yeah the problem with them at that point is they’re easy targets. 12 T7 wounds melt pretty fast when they have no defense. I suppose you could draft a Malanthrope behind them but that’s even more points. At 125pts I think you could be good just to toss three at a target and work with the ones that make it. Putting a special trait onto one just marks it for death.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:Drukhari its still a bit early to tell I think without playing with lists a bit more but this is overall almost a nothing shift in points since ravagers were honestly way too cheap and I would argue continue to be so, the rest of the stuff is awesome, the reaver price drop is pretty hype for me since I love those idiots.
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PierreTheMime posted:Yeah the problem with them at that point is they’re easy targets. 12 T7 wounds melt pretty fast when they have no defense. I suppose you could draft a Malanthrope behind them but that’s even more points. At 125pts I think you could be good just to toss three at a target and work with the ones that make it. Putting a special trait onto one just marks it for death. I was thinking they could be protected by locking them in combat with your opponent. Wouldn't the same trick for Genestealers with The Swarmlord also work for the Toxicrene?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I was thinking they could be protected by locking them in combat with your opponent. Wouldn't the same trick for Genestealers with The Swarmlord also work for the Toxicrene? Certainly not as well, they can’t advance and charge unless you get Onslaught off on it. You’ve then also committed a Swarmlord to it. Honestly it’s probably more survivable than 20 Genestealers against a lot of things but if your power fails or is denied you’re in trouble.
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When do these updates usually hit battlescribe, the day of the official release? I'm excited to make some lists.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:When do these updates usually hit battlescribe, the day of the official release? I'm excited to make some lists. Between day of and weeks after, depending on the mood of whoever owns their specific datafiles.
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Soulfucker posted:Hi, thread - I've been completely out of the loop of 40k for the past 15 months or so for lots of reasons - I think they were about to release some new Ork stuff last time I paid much attention? Marines got a whole bunch of new toys and is currently on the top of the pile. For what's good and bad for each army, I'd recommend the start competing articles on goonhammer dot com.
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When in doubt, there is Goonhammer.com.
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PierreTheMime posted:Certainly not as well, they can’t advance and charge unless you get Onslaught off on it. You’ve then also committed a Swarmlord to it. Honestly it’s probably more survivable than 20 Genestealers against a lot of things but if your power fails or is denied you’re in trouble. You're right. I keep on forgetting that the army dedicated to advancing and charging the opponent in a hail of death and destruction only has two units that can advance and charge without help.
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Tau changes are pretty nice. They dropped suits by another 3 points, making them 24 points base each and with the drop to fusion blasters (4 points, down to 14), my demo squad of three suits with quad fusion and two flamers is about 140 points now! Railsides got a 10 point reduction on their main gun, as well, which is nice. Kroot are 4 points each now, which feels great, since i like taking them, along with Krootox and Shapers (9 and 11 points down, respectively). Don't know if Piranhas needed a drop but I won't say no and while the Stormsurge got a chunky drop, i don't use the thing generally so, i can't say yea or nay about it.
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Soulfucker posted:Hi, thread - I've been completely out of the loop of 40k for the past 15 months or so for lots of reasons - I think they were about to release some new Ork stuff last time I paid much attention? Roughly: We got Codex: Genestealer Cults, which is just a belter of a book with some great new gribbly weirdos to go along with it. We got Vigilus 1&2, campaign books which brought in Specialist Detachments which give you bonuses to various units around a given theme in exchange for some CP at the start of the game. This also gave us Big Boi Calgar, an updated Chaos Marine line and Codex: Chaos Marines version 2. Apocalypse got revamped as a brand new game spin-off. Like a 40k scale Epic almost, with various tweeks that make it less of a soul-destroying slog to play. Aeronautica Imperialis rose from it's grave, Necromunda got space cops and plastic Zone Mortalis. Psychic Awakening kicked off, a new campaign series that supposedly has updates for every faction. We've gotten three books at time of writing so far. Space Marines got not one, but seven new books that warped the Meta around them. And finally Sisters of Battle at long last got their update! Kinda. It's a preview release for a proper widescale revamp in January/February.
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Irate Tree posted:Tau changes are pretty nice. They dropped suits by another 3 points, making them 24 points base each and with the drop to fusion blasters (4 points, down to 14), my demo squad of three suits with quad fusion and two flamers is about 140 points now! Railsides got a 10 point reduction on their main gun, as well, which is nice. I'm a big fan of Crisis Suits so I'm really happy with this change. EDIT: the Stormsurge is still not playable without wholly redoing the thing, because T7 W20 Sv3+ is loving abysmal for a Lord of War and its damage output without the mortal wound generating (one shot) missiles is literally less than two squads worth of Fire Warriors against all targets.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:When do these updates usually hit battlescribe, the day of the official release? I'm excited to make some lists. Its fan supported so its highly variable. 40k being such a big name though its usually sooner rather than later.
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Strobe posted:I'm a big fan of Crisis Suits so I'm really happy with this change. Very same.
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1CP for one of those Tyranid things to any unit at the start of the battle looks like it could be huge. Needs a Character but Swarmlord and Old One Eye are both very useful.
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Any idea who is the big winner for the points drop, personally hyped about Drukari and CSM.
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It looks like Chaos Space Marines are winning CA19, but Dark Angels are also having a grand old time of it.
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Does anyone have a spare Genestealer head? The one with the tentacles.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Does anyone have a spare Genestealer head? The one with the tentacles. I’m fairly certain I have a few lying around. I’m driving until tomorrow but I can check when I get back. PM me and I’ll get it over.
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