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HHH is in the same ballpark as Vince Sr except he's still alive to do more, easy choice
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gently caress HHH also somewhat related to the thread, one of my favorite wrestling related things ever on the internet (scroll down a bit on the linked page for the whole thing) : https://forums.prowrestlingonly.com/topic/15429-a-thread-in-which-dylan-compares-various-wrestlers-to-hhh/?page=16 hunnert car pileup fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Nov 30, 2019 |
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I accidentally voted for Vince thinking it was Jr but HHH is far and away ahead anyway
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It was mentioned Double J got a bad draw and originally he wasn't supposed to face Bedlam so it is kind of true. Bix drew my attention to the Thunderbolt testimony WRT this one, and while it isn't from TNA, this is what was said about Terry Taylor before TNA thought it'd be a good idea to hire him... and also get sued for racial discrimination. Weird! https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1200866100273135616
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Fauxhawk Express posted:gently caress HHH Dylan Waco posted:Barry Darsow good poo poo
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Listening to the Monumental Podcast part 2 - I'm pretty sure that Steve Austin might have legal restraints as to what he can and cannot say about his domestic abuse. I forget where I heard or read this, but that might be a reason as to why he doesn't talk about it at all.
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That’s a common clause with abuse and sexual assault settlements. See: Peyton Manning
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Hedgehog Pie posted:There's also the story that Triple H was allowed to sit in on creative meetings during the Booker angle Hell it seems like he was sitting in on them as far back as 97 since he was buddies with Shawn.
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Gumball Gumption posted:Yeah, Vince the older's biggest crime is probably leaving his family when Vince the younger was very young but there is no real way to quantify just how much of an impact it had on Vince jr. even though it's obvious it is the source of at least some brain worms of his. If I remember correctly he was actually a colossally awful father. Someone with facts please jump in, but I think Vince was raised in foster cared and sexualled abused as a minor, and intentionally left out of the company for several years.
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quote:“Interviewer: We can leave that topic, but one last thing first. You said that the sexual abuse in your childhood “wasn’t from the male”. It’s well-known that you’re estranged from your mother. Have we found the reason? Yikes
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Blast Fantasto posted:That’s a common clause with abuse and sexual assault settlements. See: Peyton Manning
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HHH is by far the worst because he’s so well positioned to fix all the bad poo poo wwe does and seemingly encourages it with bullshit Dana white management playbook garbage. Vince Sr came from an era they weren’t sure if Irishmen were actually human beings. Or that digging a trench across Europe was a sensible way to go about warfare.
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Wazzu posted:If I remember correctly he was actually a colossally awful father. Someone with facts please jump in, but I think Vince was raised in foster cared and sexually abused as a minor, and intentionally left out of the company for several years. Vince lived with his mother and his stepfather. His stepfather beat him and his mother... Jordan7hm posted:Yikes ...yeah 'nuff said there. Not that I'm trying to defend Vince Jr., far from it, but it's no wonder he turned out the way he did with the absolutely awful childhood he had. When Jr. became old enough he left home and became a door-to-door salesman, then eventually went to work for Sr., IIRC.
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Wait I've missed 9 pages of this wtf 
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Plenty more scumbags to go around, comrade.
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coconono posted:HHH is by far the worst because he’s so well positioned to fix all the bad poo poo wwe does and seemingly encourages it with bullshit Dana white management playbook garbage. it's hard to pin down just how much poo poo hhh has done since he habitually dodges responsibility by pointing to vince and shrugging though this only works because vince himself is such a massive poo poo
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Lagana is a doofus but Grizzly Smith, if you believe the allegations, was an absolute horrorshow.
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Seams posted:Lagana is a doofus but Grizzly Smith, if you believe the allegations, was an absolute horrorshow. Like comparing a horny David Brent to Richard Ramirez
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Seams posted:Lagana is a doofus but Grizzly Smith, if you believe the allegations, was an absolute horrorshow. Lagana also has sexual harassment allegations against him. Obviously Grizzly is much worse though.
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I just remember when Lagana first exited the WWE he was the darling of the podcast circuit for a while as someone who was willing to spill the deets. Then slowly everyone started realising that his ideas sucked poo poo, and it's been all downhill since.
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I’d put money on Grizzly Smith winning the whole thing.
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I still think it'll be between Mel and Vince JR but Grizzly Smith as I learn more about him sure seems like he should go far
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Underrated hosed up aspect of Grizzly: if you've seen Beyond the Mat, Jake got into the business partly to "be better than he ever was", but I think he also did it to try and earn Grizzly's love and respect. When Jake told him that he was going into the business, Grizzly told him he was gutless and wouldn't amount to anything. Strangely, Jake says he does love Grizzly on camera, which is incredible, considering what he put Jake and his siblings through. Oh, and when Grizzly was a wrestler, he didn't smarten his family up, so when he did a stretcher job, Jake and his sister thought he was crippled for life.
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Did Grizzly wrestle for the WWWF/WWF? Or what is it that qualifies him for this NY64?
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Dango Bango posted:Did Grizzly wrestle for the WWWF/WWF? Or what is it that qualifies him for this NY64? he was a backstage official for WWF
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Underrated hosed up aspect of Grizzly: if you've seen Beyond the Mat, Jake got into the business partly to "be better than he ever was", but I think he also did it to try and earn Grizzly's love and respect. When Jake told him that he was going into the business, Grizzly told him he was gutless and wouldn't amount to anything. "Family" is a hell of a drug.
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ChrisBTY posted:"Family" is a hell of a drug. For real. No wonder Jake is such a troubled man.
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Arguably did more damage to him than the actual drugs. Mainly because "family" was a gateway drug TO the other drugs I'm sure.
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1201312101031194629 Everyone is voting for Hogan but I want to call attention to this section from the Flair article on Grantland. https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1201313702600986624
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Christ this is kind of a mirror match isn't it? I wanna vote Hogan because his shittiness was more visible but I also want to vote Flair because he should get more 'credit' for the lovely things he did. And those racial epithets on the sex tape are barely a feather on the scale of this matchup. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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If Flair and Hogan are equally lovely outside of the ring, then Hogan is worse for all of his years in the ring and politicking.
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spongeh posted:If Flair and Hogan are equally lovely outside of the ring, then Hogan is worse for all of his years in the ring and politicking. That's what I'm leaning yeah.
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I kinda feel Hogan gets the nod because he was a worse wrestling presence too.
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Union busting and the stuff with his son's car accident pushes Hogan over the line for me, honestly.
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Drew McIntyre posted:i wonder which town Flair was referencing I'm guessing it was Charlotte. Vandar posted:Union busting and the stuff with his son's car accident pushes Hogan over the line for me, honestly. Same. Flair is absolutely a piece of poo poo but he's also kind of a tragic figure in a way that Hogan isn't, at least to me.
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Ultimately went Hogan because all other things being equal Hogan empowered Vince. Flair also seems to have spent his life with undiagnosed neurological issues, ADHD at least and an apparent complete inability to be alone or stop being Ric Flair for two consecutive seconds. (I'm basing this on the ESPN 30 for 30). This doesn't exonerate Flair but it adds a lair of pathos that isn't present with Hogan. Addendum: That having been said 89-11 vote split for Hogan feels like it's giving Flair way too much slack. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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ChrisBTY posted:Ultimately went Hogan because all other things being equal Hogan empowered Vince. Agreed. I voted Hogan because of the union busting but I'm surprised Flair isn't taking a bigger chunk. I figured it'd be 70-30 at minimum.
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Even if Flair's shittiness is overlooked in the voting here at least we can take comfort in the knowledge that probably more than anybody else in this tournament, Flair ruined his own life with his brand of shittiness. (Ugh, that actually feels like a kinda lovely thing to say).
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