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Yeah, an employee is a stakeholder, even without stock options. No one cares about them beyond their necessity, which is why they bust unions and downsize.
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Best Friends posted:The core driver of a whole lot of Boeing's decisions, including imo the move to Chicago, is the desire to break the unions. Moving to Chicago makes it easier for the execs to set up competing non-union facilities in alternate locations. A key driver to all of this is irrational but extreme management fury that blue collar workers were making decent money. If you like that, wait until you see what happens in the auto industry during the next few years. Electrification will be a sea change; ICE motors are complicated and need plenty of accessories electric vehicles don't (always). No transmission, no oil pump, no ignition, etc. All those supplier facilities in the American South could go bye-bye, that would not be fun. What would the people who work for Bosch or ZF do if the work evaporated? I, for one, welcome our new Siemens-Yutani overlords.
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madeintaipei posted:If you like that, wait until you see what happens in the auto industry during the next few years. Electrification will be a sea change; ICE motors are complicated and need plenty of accessories electric vehicles don't (always). No transmission, no oil pump, no ignition, etc. All those supplier facilities in the American South could go bye-bye, that would not be fun. What would the people who work for Bosch or ZF do if the work evaporated? A small part of me relishes the thought of all the Mech Engineers, who have worked at the same auto supply company for the last 20 years and love to post online about how the reason Millennials can't get well-paying jobs is because they all have poo poo work ethic and chose poo poo college degrees, suddenly have to re-enter the job market. But then I also think of the vast swathes of line workers, technicians, and mechanics that are going to see their jobs evaporate and I'm just depressed again.
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do the stakeholders include the passengers who will die screaming as their Boeing flies itself into terrain?
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Scruff McGruff posted:A small part of me relishes the thought of all the Mech Engineers, who have worked at the same auto supply company for the last 20 years and love to post online about how the reason Millennials can't get well-paying jobs is because they all have poo poo work ethic and chose poo poo college degrees, suddenly have to re-enter the job market. But then I also think of the vast swathes of line workers, technicians, and mechanics that are going to see their jobs evaporate and I'm just depressed again. I have a lot of friends back in Alabama that are thinking the same way. gently caress man, that was a good way up and/or out. On the other hand: [Bloomberg, don't know how anyone feels about that. Read it though, please] shades of Elysium madeintaipei fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Nov 29, 2019 |
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FuturePastNow posted:do the stakeholders include the passengers who will die screaming as their Boeing flies itself into terrain? At first, then their estates.
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You might want to take care of your stakeholders but you’re only legally obliged to work in the best interests of your shareholders.
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drgitlin posted:You might want to take care of your stakeholders but you’re only legally obliged to work in the best interests of your shareholders. This is painful to read.
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stevobob posted:This is painful to read. 
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madeintaipei posted:I have a lot of friends back in Alabama that are thinking the same way. gently caress man, that was a good way up and/or out. But who could have foreseen this result? Who?!
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drgitlin posted:You might want to take care of your stakeholders but you’re only legally obliged to work in the best interests of your shareholders. Yep. I got autocorrected.
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madeintaipei posted:I have a lot of friends back in Alabama that are thinking the same way. gently caress man, that was a good way up and/or out. God drat Depressing, but thank you for linking me
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quote:“I gave them a very strong message … ‘American consumers are not going to want to buy cars stained with the blood of American workers’ ” American Consumers: "If they're cheap enough, yes we will. Besides, 'Blood Red' is a bitchin' color name." 
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"The Only Flying Messerschmitt Bf109" this is pretty good saturday afternoon stuff, i'm watching it with a cup of tea.
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"surely that's just a perspective thing from the camera --- wait, no, that is dust being thrown up from how low they are holy poo poo  "
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Lol a buddy of mine flys for those guys. He wants out for some reason?
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luminalflux posted:Checked in today for my SFO-LAS flight tomorrow and Alaska immediately sent me an email asking for volunteers That's more notice than I got flying to LAX with them one time. I *thankfully* woke up early enough to see a nondescript email sitting in my inbox, not even done up in Alaska's website livery or even addressed clearly telling me my flight was canceled *the day of*. I called them as soon as their customer service line opened up and was able to shoehorn myself onto a middle-seat on a United flight (on their dime), and (after the fact) even got them to reimburse me for the +$99 upcharge into United's "not as terrible as our regular economy but still pretty lovely" premium economy seat, the Lyft ride cost, *and* for the Gogo day pass I'd bought for the flight. So...it could be worse.
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Jesus Christ I have been on hold waiting for the company travel agent (Amex) for four loving hours now I am ready to murder someone due to the goddamn repetitive hold music (royalty free!) Hoping there are no acceptable flights and the trip is just cancelled, that would be cool.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:That's more notice than I got flying to LAX with them one time. I *thankfully* woke up early enough to see a nondescript email sitting in my inbox, not even done up in Alaska's website livery or even addressed clearly telling me my flight was canceled *the day of*. I called them as soon as their customer service line opened up and was able to shoehorn myself onto a middle-seat on a United flight (on their dime), and (after the fact) even got them to reimburse me for the +$99 upcharge into United's "not as terrible as our regular economy but still pretty lovely" premium economy seat, the Lyft ride cost, *and* for the Gogo day pass I'd bought for the flight. 
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Plane filled with wrong fuel before crash that killed Tampa plastic surgeonquote:An employee at the Kokomo facility later told investigators that as Greenwald was approaching the airport in the Aerostar, the employee asked him if he wanted jet fuel, and Greenwald said “yes.” The employee, who is not named in the report, told investigators he asked because the Aerostar looked like a jet airplane, according to the report. Apparently this guy has some connection to Jeffrey Epstein according to some internet rumours floating about but other than twitter and internet conversation I haven't seen any actual articles relating the two. Either way big 
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The Real Amethyst posted:Plane filled with wrong fuel before crash that killed Tampa plastic surgeon Lol, these assholes get killed by a combination of laziness and incompetence on the part of the "lower classes", and their own arrogance. Guess we don't give a poo poo about rich people. Epstein offed himself
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Meanwhile, someone refused to say no to clients wanting to take off in a blizzard, and as a result 9 people are dead https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/30/us/south-dakota-plane-crash/index.html
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The Real Amethyst posted:Plane filled with wrong fuel before crash that killed Tampa plastic surgeon The incompatible nozzle that this idiot fueler circumvented was invented as a result of literally this exact set of accident circumstances. Bob Hoover, aerobatic pilot extraordinaire, survived the double engine failure that resulted when a ground crewman assumed his plane was a turboprop and filled it with jet fuel, and he set out to develop a jet fuel nozzle that could not physically be used to fuel a piston-engined plane. They are now required nearly everywhere that has any aviation regulations at all. I suppose that line about inventing a better idiot still rings true
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ManifunkDestiny posted:Meanwhile, someone refused to say no to clients wanting to take off in a blizzard, and as a result 9 people are dead What was a states attorney doing on a chartered personal flight? Isn’t that a little rich for a public servant?
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Sagebrush posted:I suppose that line about inventing a better idiot still rings true Only worked 'cause they double teamed it!
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Jealous Cow posted:What was a states attorney doing on a chartered personal flight? Isn’t that a little rich for a public servant? I think you’re parsing that poorly-written sentence wrong.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I think you’re parsing that poorly-written sentence wrong. Yeah, the states attorney was not on the plane.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I think you’re parsing that poorly-written sentence wrong. Yep, that was it.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I think you’re parsing that poorly-written sentence wrong. Has this always been what it said or did CNN update the story? quote:Among the nine dead are two children and the pilot, Brule County States Attorney Theresa Maule Rossow said in a statement I mean it’s a bad garden path sentence, but it does answer “What was a states attorney doing on a chartered personal flight?” She was the pilot.
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Platystemon posted:Has this always been what it said or did CNN update the story? Oh wow, yeah, you can add one comma and change it entirely quote:Among the nine dead are two children and the pilot, Brule County States Attorney Theresa Maule, Rossow said in a statement
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Humphreys posted:Holy poo poo, I've seen some nice fan edit video for this song, but I have NEVER seen Shuttle footage like this: From a bit ago but NASA used to put out super-cuts of the ascent footage after Shuttle launches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kayCLca1YMc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewLLBalvehg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO7ZBp4HXQA
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simplefish posted:Oh wow, yeah, you can add one comma and change it entirely 
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Reminder this is the best shuttle video ever. Commentary from nasa engineers talking over high speed imagery of shuttle launches. Like thirty seconds over forty five minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFwqZ4qAUkE
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Curious Droid takes a look at flying wings. Well researched if not exhaustive with some good footage I've never seen before. https://youtu.be/L_MaG5G46pA
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