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I Was The Fury
Oct 19, 2012

Always stop to smell the flowers, just in case they're weeds

lynch_69 posted:

What's this amazing surefire gambling system you have where you win so much money you need to employ an accountant to figure out how to get it. How many millions have you won gambling online?

oh come on man, winning in gambling is super easy, just like making money off bitcoin
Just bet on the winning hands, and dont bet on the losing hands. you'll know which ones are the winning hands by whether they are going to make you money or not.

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tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

Wutang-Yutani posted:

I'm not using it to avoid taxes at all, not even sure how you'd do that without risking losing it all in a crash, I try not to hold Bitcoins for more than 12 hours. I'm talking to my accountant soon about how to declare winnings since our tax office website is no drat use at all on the matter.

Anyway the answer to my question was bitpay.

is, uh, real life just too boring for you? oh, yeah, let's gun this creaky old truck over this rocky winding mountain road AND get really close to the cliffs edge at the same time, during a thunderstorm, while completely blindfolded. What could possibly go wrong?

bitcoin is really dumb

tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Dec 2, 2019

Veni Vidi Ameche!
Nov 2, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Sir! It's not a pyramid scheme! It's a tetrahedral wealth enhancement edifice!

I propose referring to *coins as TWEEs from now on, thanks to this post. Perhaps CTWEEs to distinguish them from other tetrahedral wealth enhancement edifices.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:

I propose referring to *coins as TWEEs from now on, thanks to this post. Perhaps CTWEEs to distinguish them from other tetrahedral wealth enhancement edifices.
Tetrahedral Wealth Accumulation Tranches

Wutang-Yutani
Nov 21, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

lynch_69 posted:

What's this amazing surefire gambling system you have where you win so much money you need to employ an accountant to figure out how to get it. How many millions have you won gambling online?

There's absolutely no point in me explaining my system because: a) when a gambler tells you they have a system your brain (rightly) shuts off and b) as far as I can see no one else has worked it out yet and if it went public there goes my cash cow.

I've run twenty trials of it so far and 20/20 have worked, grossing ~$35,000 while only risking <$500 per trial.
And no it's not betting $500 on black.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
Hey, I hope it works out for you and you get filthy rich. Just be careful.

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

Wutang-Yutani posted:

There's absolutely no point in me explaining my system because: a) when a gambler tells you they have a system your brain (rightly) shuts off and b) as far as I can see no one else has worked it out yet and if it went public there goes my cash cow.

I've run twenty trials of it so far and 20/20 have worked, grossing ~$35,000 while only risking <$500 per trial.
And no it's not betting $500 on black.

This is a good way to get very unsavory people very unhappy with you.

BigBadSteve
Apr 29, 2009

Wutang-Yutani posted:

There's absolutely no point in me explaining my system because: a) when a gambler tells you they have a system your brain (rightly) shuts off and b) as far as I can see no one else has worked it out yet and if it went public there goes my cash cow.

I've run twenty trials of it so far and 20/20 have worked, grossing ~$35,000 while only risking <$500 per trial.
And no it's not betting $500 on black.

Just keep betting... bet Bet BET! Never stop!! Your earnings are going to the MOON!!!

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

Wutang-Yutani posted:

There's absolutely no point in me explaining my system because: a) when a gambler tells you they have a system your brain (rightly) shuts off and b) as far as I can see no one else has worked it out yet and if it went public there goes my cash cow.

I've run twenty trials of it so far and 20/20 have worked, grossing ~$35,000 while only risking <$500 per trial.
And no it's not betting $500 on black.

Hold on, are you running a simulation against what amounts to a black box or are you actually winning this much money? If it's the latter, there's no loving way someone isn't watching you.

Please be very careful.

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene

tango alpha delta posted:

Hold on, are you running a simulation against what amounts to a black box or are you actually winning this much money? If it's the latter, there's no loving way someone isn't watching you.

Please be very careful.
This is extremely good advice. If/when you start using your system at a real casino somebody - probably somebody you don't want to meet - is going to get real angry real fast.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
I won't believe a word of this system until someone drops a box of matchsticks.

Wutang-Yutani
Nov 21, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

There Bias Two posted:

This is a good way to get very unsavory people very unhappy with you.

I have considered this- but as I mentioned previously it's not illegal for citizens in my country to gamble online, but it is illegal for companies to offer online casinos to us- the government's really peeved they're not able to get their share of that sweet sweet gambling revenue and so the business operators would be very hesitant to set foot here as I believe they're actually on watch lists for entry in to the country.

Also it's a fairly well camouflaged not particularly easy to detect system and these joints aren't really run by particularly thorough people.

edit: for those asking if i'm running sims or actual trials, yes actual trials with actual money being paid.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
personally if i was exploiting loopholes in tax and gambling laws to beat a house that pays out in the currency of crime and melting glaciers i would definitely post about it

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

Wutang-Yutani posted:

I have considered this- but as I mentioned previously it's not illegal for citizens in my country to gamble online, but it is illegal for companies to offer online casinos to us- the government's really peeved they're not able to get their share of that sweet sweet gambling revenue and so the business operators would be very hesitant to set foot here as I believe they're actually on watch lists for entry in to the country.

Also it's a fairly well camouflaged not particularly easy to detect system and these joints aren't really run by particularly thorough people.

edit: for those asking if i'm running sims or actual trials, yes actual trials with actual money being paid.

You should totally start a Facebook page. I hear all the cool kids share tax fraud/bitcoin gambling tips there.

tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Dec 2, 2019

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
If your "system" is to go to a shady online casino that allows you to beat up on very easy poker bots until you want to cash out, then tells you that you need to put this much real money in before you can make a withdrawal, then I'm sorry to say that your money is already gone. The odds of getting your money out are roughly similar to the odds of that nigerian prince actually making good on his promise to reward you once you've fronted him money to regain his assets.

Wutang-Yutani
Nov 21, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Jabor posted:

If your "system" is to go to a shady online casino that allows you to beat up on very easy poker bots until you want to cash out, then tells you that you need to put this much real money in before you can make a withdrawal, then I'm sorry to say that your money is already gone. The odds of getting your money out are roughly similar to the odds of that nigerian prince actually making good on his promise to reward you once you've fronted him money to regain his assets.

Nah nothing like that, it's already paid out 20 times.
Also I don't know why people keep insisting I'm committing tax fraud.
I guess just because I'm posting in a Bitcoin thread.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
And you know it's already paid out because you have the cash in hand, right? It's not all just bitcoins that they pinky promise they'll send you once you've set up a bitcoin address and given them supporting documentation?

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
I want to visit the casino that pays out 20 times let alone 5.

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Dec 2, 2019

Harry Potter on Ice
Nov 4, 2006


IF IM NOT BITCHING ABOUT HOW SHITTY MY LIFE IS, REPORT ME FOR MY ACCOUNT HAS BEEN HIJACKED

Wutang-Yutani posted:

Nah nothing like that, it's already paid out 20 times.
Also I don't know why people keep insisting I'm committing tax fraud.
I guess just because I'm posting in a Bitcoin thread.

You know you want to give the most vague outline of your system.. just a tease for the non believers you know?

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Wutang-Yutani posted:

I have considered this- but as I mentioned previously it's not illegal for citizens in my country to gamble online, but it is illegal for companies to offer online casinos to us- the government's really peeved they're not able to get their share of that sweet sweet gambling revenue and so the business operators would be very hesitant to set foot here as I believe they're actually on watch lists for entry in to the country.

Also it's a fairly well camouflaged not particularly easy to detect system and these joints aren't really run by particularly thorough people.

edit: for those asking if i'm running sims or actual trials, yes actual trials with actual money being paid.

Let us know the nationality of the casinos so we can tell you how many/which body parts they are likely to remove when they catch up to you.
Hope it isn't Russians!

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Wutang-Yutani posted:

Nah nothing like that, it's already paid out 20 times.
Also I don't know why people keep insisting I'm committing tax fraud.
I guess just because I'm posting in a Bitcoin thread.

I dunno maybe this:

Wutang-Yutani posted:

I want to receive bitcoins to multiple addresses (let's say, 12) and then just forward them on to my main wallet at coinspot.
If you're not doing crimes just make the withdrawl normally, whatever the "normal" is for your gambling buttcoins. If your amazing system requires getting paid to 12 different places you're probably getting scammed.


Oh, and here's how to split transactions like that: make 12 different new wallets, send the smaller amount to each of those addresses, then send the money to your coinspot address. I have never touched a buttcoin in my life, you're a dumb boy if you can't figure that one out.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Shumagorath posted:

I want to visit the casino that pays out 20 times let alone 5.
To be fair to Mr. Online Gambling I think the statement is "it has worked in twenty sessions," not "it get 20:1."

Wutang-Yutani
Nov 21, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Jabor posted:

And you know it's already paid out because you have the cash in hand, right? It's not all just bitcoins that they pinky promise they'll send you once you've set up a bitcoin address and given them supporting documentation?

Correct.

E: anyway I can see this isn't going to be a satisfying discussion for anyone since I'm not going to discuss the system so I'll bow out.

Wutang-Yutani fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Dec 2, 2019

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
Do NOT ask what the project is

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.

Wutang-Yutani posted:

I have considered this- but as I mentioned previously it's not illegal for citizens in my country to gamble online, but it is illegal for companies to offer online casinos to us- the government's really peeved they're not able to get their share of that sweet sweet gambling revenue and so the business operators would be very hesitant to set foot here as I believe they're actually on watch lists for entry in to the country.

Also it's a fairly well camouflaged not particularly easy to detect system and these joints aren't really run by particularly thorough people.

edit: for those asking if i'm running sims or actual trials, yes actual trials with actual money being paid.

if you can get real money cool congrats but as long as it's still bitcoin you don't have real money yet

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


I absolutely believe that his guy has found the one weird trick to make consistent profit with gambling

very believable

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


I mean, I lol at buttcoin as much as as the next goon, but it's not at all unbelievable that Wutang-Yutani might have found some sort of bug to exploit, or some game where whatever lowest-bidder programmer who wrote the online casino software didn't calculate the odds properly and left a positive edge for the patron with proper play.

In which case I can see why they would want to make their cashouts as untraceable as possible before the Russian mobsters legitimate businessmen behind the casinos figure out what's going on and send a few "collections agents" their way.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Known Lecher posted:

I mean, I lol at buttcoin as much as as the next goon, but it's not at all unbelievable that Wutang-Yutani might have found some sort of bug to exploit, or some game where whatever lowest-bidder programmer who wrote the online casino software didn't calculate the odds properly and left a positive edge for the patron with proper play.

In which case I can see why they would want to make their cashouts as untraceable as possible before the Russian mobsters legitimate businessmen behind the casinos figure out what's going on and send a few "collections agents" their way.
This makes me wonder, as a tangent: What does a casino do if you figure out a way to beat their system, and then don't clean them out - and instead inform them, possibly after making some plausible quantity of cash?

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.

Nessus posted:

This makes me wonder, as a tangent: What does a casino do if you figure out a way to beat their system, and then don't clean them out - and instead inform them, possibly after making some plausible quantity of cash?

bury you in the nevada desert

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Nessus posted:

This makes me wonder, as a tangent: What does a casino do if you figure out a way to beat their system, and then don't clean them out - and instead inform them, possibly after making some plausible quantity of cash?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxOiVxTB0KY&t=232s

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Nessus posted:

This makes me wonder, as a tangent: What does a casino do if you figure out a way to beat their system, and then don't clean them out - and instead inform them, possibly after making some plausible quantity of cash?

Depends entirely on how difficult it is for a burly dude in a cheap suit to grab you and drag you out of the public's eye. Best case? They ban you from the internet casino and tell all the other ones they do business with. Worst case? Broken hands and a concussion. They find out without you telling them what's up? Lots of empty desert to fertilize. Be a shame you had to help by digging a hole with those broken hands.

Wutang-Yutani
Nov 21, 2019

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
There's been quite a few online casino games that were able to be exploited- in fundamentally fairly obvious ways; for example a fairly common mechanic in online slots nowadays is the accumulator; you accumulate 25 special symbols over time and get a bonus. Simple enough and it keeps the player playing.
Obviously anyone playing this will immediately think: why not just accumulate 24 of the symbols on 0.25 spins and then raise my bet to 125? - well because you idiot, you absolute buffoon- they obviously average out the bet size for all accumulated pays... Don't they?
Well no, on a fairly recent batman licensed slot they didn't, and you could indeed exploit it as simply as above.

That's not at all what I'm doing though.

mojo1701a
Oct 9, 2008

Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

Wutang-Yutani posted:

Anyway the answer to my question was bitpay.

I swear, I will never tire of this commercial. It's so loving perfect.

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

Ad by Khad posted:

bury you in the nevada desert

Makes sense. Murder the people helping you by doing a responsible disclosure. That'll encourage good behavior in the future.

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

klafbang posted:

Makes sense. Murder the people helping you by doing a responsible disclosure. That'll encourage good behavior in the future.

Breaking news: Casinos may not be a business model run by smart people entirely on the up-and-up. More at 11.

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008
You guys sure watch a lot of mob movies.

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene

Wutang-Yutani posted:

That's not at all what I'm doing though.
This is what you're doing to yourself:
https://youtu.be/m8BAE4oBV4A

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
loving megalol at getting into bitcoin to exploit an online casino flaw, definitely not gonna end with your bank accounts frozen and/or organs in an icebox

Dark Off
Aug 14, 2015




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divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
:stonk: HOW DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING :stonk:

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