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A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Freaking Crumbum posted:

i'm like 6 monthd late to the party but i just saw the last avenfers movie and lmfao it is so bad. the infinity stones are magic mcguffins that can perform any wish the owner can imagine, except it can't return two very specific people to life because the rest of the avengers just decide "nope it's impossible" but nobody even notices that the vision doesn't get brought back. also you have to sacrifice what you love most to get the soul stone which makes sense w/ thanos & gamorra but makes no sense for jeremy & widow b/c neither one of them love the other and in fact they're both enthusiastically suicidal soooo . . . ? oh an apparently the hulk can wish everyone back to life AND impart in them the knowledge of the last 5 years BUT he can't also throw in a rider to just nuke thanos where ever he currently is? and octogenarian cap at the end implies nothing in the main timeline changes despite the fact that now he obviously won't exist to be cap in the early 2000s

time travel as a plot device is always shite but man avengers end game managed to handle it in the dumbest way possible

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mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Freaking Crumbum posted:

i'm like 6 monthd late to the party but i just saw the last avenfers movie and lmfao it is so bad. the infinity stones are magic mcguffins that can perform any wish the owner can imagine, except it can't return two very specific people to life because the rest of the avengers just decide "nope it's impossible" but nobody even notices that the vision doesn't get brought back. also you have to sacrifice what you love most to get the soul stone which makes sense w/ thanos & gamorra but makes no sense for jeremy & widow b/c neither one of them love the other and in fact they're both enthusiastically suicidal soooo . . . ? oh an apparently the hulk can wish everyone back to life AND impart in them the knowledge of the last 5 years BUT he can't also throw in a rider to just nuke thanos where ever he currently is? and octogenarian cap at the end implies nothing in the main timeline changes despite the fact that now he obviously won't exist to be cap in the early 2000s

time travel as a plot device is always shite but man avengers end game managed to handle it in the dumbest way possible

Hollywood big budget movies these days are more like a highly elaborate capitalist welfare system for computer touching visual effects artists. I am fairly certain that everyone who makes cgi for movies is the nephew or child of a film executive or high ranking member of the Chinese government and that explains the state of modern blockbusters.

Cnidaria
Apr 10, 2009

It's all politics, Mike.

old cap showing up at the end makes no sense since the movie already established that time travel creates alternate timelines and doesn’t affect the one being traveled from

the entire premise of the movie would be pointless if they could just travel back and stop thanos in infinity war

Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


for superman to work i think you'd have to make it just a bog-standard alien invasion film so you can have him flying around zoom schoooo and punching aliens whack biff and shooting eye lasers at their ships pew pew pew and basically avoid any social commentary or moral lessons or whatever because the character completely falls apart when you have to try and explain him plausibly existing in contemporary american society. basically independence day but with superman punching all the aliens.

don't do grim-n-gritty, don't try and use him as a metaphor for immigration, don't touch any morality beyond "alien monsters want to destroy the earth = bad". just give me 2 hours of gonzo special effects while superman blows up alien space ships and punches monsters in the mouth

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Why won't they just adapt the death of Superman if they need some kind of slightly dark take on him to get a movie green-lit

Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


Cnidaria posted:

old cap showing up at the end makes no sense since the movie already established that time travel creates alternate timelines and doesn’t affect the one being traveled from

the entire premise of the movie would be pointless if they could just travel back and stop thanos in infinity war

the least plausible part of the entire movie, for me, was the last few minutes at the end where they're having tony's funeral and his 5 year old daughter is slightly glum but otherwise disinterested about the whole thing. i've seen kids have the ugliest meltdowns imaginable over "the milk in my cereal is too wet"; there's no way an actual child has to learn that one of their parents is dead and they just stoically accept the news

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Freaking Crumbum posted:

the least plausible part of the entire movie, for me, was the last few minutes at the end where they're having tony's funeral and his 5 year old daughter is slightly glum but otherwise disinterested about the whole thing. i've seen kids have the ugliest meltdowns imaginable over "the milk in my cereal is too wet"; there's no way an actual child has to learn that one of their parents is dead and they just stoically accept the news

Spider-man's actor iirc didn't know it was a funeral scene and thought it was a wedding

Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Spider-man's actor iirc didn't know it was a funeral scene and thought it was a wedding

the way that scene is shot with everyone in each franchise standing like 10 feet apart from every other group, i could 100% believe it's a composition image where everybody was shot on separate green screens and then added in post.

my wife and i were both super bummed that captain marvel simply didn't exist for 95% of the film. she gets introduced out the gate like "oh poo poo she's going to be important" and then has one poochie-style "my home planet needs me" line of dialogue and disappears for almost the entire movie. then when she finally comes back, she's powerful enough to singlehandedly destroy thanos' entire fleet, but somehow struggles to best him in hand-to-hand combat. i know superhero movies always struggle with presenting consistent power levels for the cast, but she goes from blowing up space ships to losing a fist fight in the span of like 60 seconds, which felt especially jarring.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Freaking Crumbum posted:

the least plausible part of the entire movie, for me, was the last few minutes at the end where they're having tony's funeral and his 5 year old daughter is slightly glum but otherwise disinterested about the whole thing. i've seen kids have the ugliest meltdowns imaginable over "the milk in my cereal is too wet"; there's no way an actual child has to learn that one of their parents is dead and they just stoically accept the news

I've actually seen a kid that age at her dad's funeral and she was very self possessed so idk, depends on the kid

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Freaking Crumbum posted:

the least plausible part of the entire movie, for me, was the last few minutes at the end where they're having tony's funeral and his 5 year old daughter is slightly glum but otherwise disinterested about the whole thing. i've seen kids have the ugliest meltdowns imaginable over "the milk in my cereal is too wet"; there's no way an actual child has to learn that one of their parents is dead and they just stoically accept the news

A five-year old isn't fully emotionally developed so I don't think it's fair to expect them to react to things like that like you and I would.

Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


Alhazred posted:

A five-year old isn't fully emotionally developed so I don't think it's fair to expect them to react to things like that like you and I would.

i dunno, my own daughter has had to deal with loss in the past and it went poorly, so maybe i'm just basing it on what i've experienced. even fully formed adults don't process grief the same way, but it felt especially weird to me that the kid seemed completely uninterested in what was supposed to be happening.

also if they really wanted to make another dark superman movie, they should just make the kingdom come trilogy.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Isn’t the death of Superman story little more than an extended WWE match that ends with Superman dying?

What I’m saying is it’s not nearly convoluted enough to be a superhero movie.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

mysterious frankie posted:

Isn’t the death of Superman story little more than an extended WWE match that ends with Superman dying?

What I’m saying is it’s not nearly convoluted enough to be a superhero movie.

i never thought about it but actually yeah it basically is, whoa

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
i honestly liked how straightforward a story it was, it added to the urgency that supes honestly didn't have time to look into why the crisis was happening

though i understand a lot of dumb backstory got filled in after the fact

it'd work much better as the multi-part climax of a series or season than a stand-alone movie

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


They could make an All-Star Superman movie but that would involve DC being brave enough to kill him off

Especially since the inevitable Reign of the Supermen sequel wouldn't have any Henry Cavill until the last fifteen minutes

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

1994 Toyota Celica posted:

i honestly liked how straightforward a story it was, it added to the urgency that supes honestly didn't have time to look into why the crisis was happening

though i understand a lot of dumb backstory got filled in after the fact

it'd work much better as the multi-part climax of a series or season than a stand-alone movie

honestly i think if they pitched it as a sequel to the old christopher reeves movies it'd work, the only problem with that being only like, 5 people would watch it

for being a story about killing a bunch of supes pals and supes himself it is still pretty goofy and i dont think man of steel superman would fit with it at all

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
How do people think this show is good?

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1201329057230721025?s=19

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1201553981786472449?s=19

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1201558124462784517?s=19

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1201562524304457730?s=19

https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/1201562546341384192?s=19

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSzlgybdkFA

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

baffling when perhaps the most famous non-rorsharch line from the original comic is a capper on ozymandias monologue

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

MizPiz posted:

How do people think this show is good?


That is some nasty Prometheus rear end dialogue

Mad Wack
Mar 27, 2008

"The faster you use your cooldowns, the faster you can use them again"
i know mandalorian chat already went by but honestly it's just boring

just go read lone wolf and cub if you wanna have fun samurai adventure

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mad Wack posted:

i know mandalorian chat already went by but honestly it's just boring

just go read lone wolf and cub if you wanna have fun samurai adventure

He’s so mean though

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

Just loving adapt Red Son

Clipperton
Dec 20, 2011
Grimey Drawer

foobardog posted:

Just loving adapt that Hitman one shot with Superman in it

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Cnidaria posted:

old cap showing up at the end makes no sense since the movie already established that time travel creates alternate timelines and doesn’t affect the one being traveled from

Time travel is fake and you can do whatever the gently caress your rules are a lie

Alternately they didn't change time they just didn't know that cap had gone back in time yet

coathat
May 21, 2007

It cool that captain America purposely let 9-11 happen

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

coathat posted:

It cool that captain America purposely let 9-11 happen

Ok it's time to tell my favorite 9/11 in media story

There's this absolutely stupid books called the president's vampire. It's about how Andrew Jackson pardoned a vampire and had a voodoo priestess bind him to serve the office of the president and now the vampire fights spooky poo poo for America. It's wild dumb. I love it.

He didn't stop 9/11 because an angel stabbed him into a wall with a flaming sword.

Ok

He did however kill bin laden in like, 04, and during the fight bin laden turned into a reptiloid thanks to Gene treatments using innsmouth poo poo

Also the last boom was like six years ago and it ended with not Cheney nerve gassing not bush because he was mad that the literal Shadow govt cut his rear end off

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

foobardog posted:

Just loving adapt Red Son

Supergirl already did, kind of.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

foobardog posted:

Just loving adapt Red Son

Superman was already socialist red son is redundant

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mad Wack posted:

i know mandalorian chat already went by but honestly it's just boring

just go read lone wolf and cub if you wanna have fun samurai adventure

Wow Witcher Netflix out this month with a Geralt bath reference from the game.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Death of Superman is one of those comic things that's actually super mediocre even at the time and adaptations tend to be better by rightly cutting the incredible amounts of chaff.

Was actually a theme in the 90s of 'Hero dies/gets taken out of action and replaced by a dark edgy antihero', even Wonder Woman had Artemis, and Knightfall ended up being a stealth pisstake of sorts, since Azrael is pretty unstable from the word go, though also interesting since he has his own thing going on as a mystical religious fanatic. While Reign of the Superman mixes things up with a bunch of different Supermen with different styles and motivations, including Steel who actually goes full on shining hero as much as he can.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
Black Widow trailer dropped. Gonna be a hyprocrite and be another rear end in a top hat with an opinion on the MCU.

Black Widow is the perfect mix of "getting sick of Scarlett Johansson" and "weary of spy movies glorifying the deep state".

Also, I'm pretty sure "sick of the MCU" can be thrown in for some people, but pop culture grifters prematurely declared Marvel fatigue before, and I'm personally still interested in GOTG3, shang chi, and eternals because I still want to be entertained by spandex men punching things.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

im completely checked out from the plot at this point lol. last ep was complete nonsense. characters just constantly launching into monologues then being cut off just when they get to the part where they actually tell you whats going on

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1201788911820906496

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lol

Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


Farm Frenzy posted:

im completely checked out from the plot at this point lol. last ep was complete nonsense. characters just constantly launching into monologues then being cut off just when they get to the part where they actually tell you whats going on

i ended up missing the last two episodes because of thanksgiving related stuff and basically had a moment last night where i realized "hey i don't even really like that dumb show, two episodes behind is enough for me to cut my losses". looks like i made the right choice!

also if they're just going to adapt stuff for the next supes movie, they should just flesh out the entirety of Injustice into a feature length film.

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Freaking Crumbum posted:

i ended up missing the last two episodes because of thanksgiving related stuff and basically had a moment last night where i realized "hey i don't even really like that dumb show, two episodes behind is enough for me to cut my losses". looks like i made the right choice!

also if they're just going to adapt stuff for the next supes movie, they should just flesh out the entirety of Injustice into a feature length film.

I liked last week's ep and the week before but anything relating to the central mystery isnt even worth paying attention to because the show isn't interested in foreshadowing to you at all. just a constant series of big revelations. its really funny watching the TVIV thread gradually crack and all the dipshits lindelof lovers scatter

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Bro Dad posted:

say what you will about ron howard but he managed to salvage the infamously awful Solo production into a decent film

poo poo if they had a cinematographer that wasnt in love with ps3-era brown color filters it would have been a great movie

Are we sure Lord and Miller's Solo was bad, or was it just off-brand enough that Disney got cold feet? Ron Howard's Solo isn't bad per se, but it is extremely bland and pointless.

It plays, not surprisingly, like a comedy with all of the actual jokes removed.

General Dog has issued a correction as of 17:31 on Dec 3, 2019

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


Sometimes I think my life would've been better if I lacked any self-awareness.

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Serf
May 5, 2011


black widow has florence pugh? okay fine i guess i'll watch it. also that david harbour character appears to be the baby yoda in terms of fan reaction so far so lol for many reasons

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