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genericnick posted:So how can I get Kim to lend me his gun so I can shoot the body down, now that I'm specced for motorics? Is it a hidden authority check? Nah, I think just ask nicely and he'll let you after his failed attempt.
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pedro0930 posted:Nah, I think just ask nicely and he'll let you after his failed attempt. Got it.
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Alpheratz posted:Its amazing how the RPS writers went from the initial kneejerk rejection of DE to actually falling in love with the game The current deputy editor (Alice Bell) came in hot to review the game as usual, which imho was a pretty big mistake of their part. This is a game that needs plenty of mental space for the player to work through the many ideas it presents, and you can't do that in a small amount of time. Besides, it must have been staggeringly difficult given RPS' bouts of liberal pseudo-woke-ness to realize that the game can only tackle such difficult subjects as it does if it did not allow the absolute moral poo poo garbage options to the player. Alice made the mistake here of not remembering "depiction does not mean endorsement", particularly given the whole context of the game. I think she turned around on it given the whole bunch of other opinion pieces about the game that appeared later, but eh, DE stands for everything RPS apparently is about so not giving it a recommended is very silly
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RPS's review was glowingly positive, let's not mischaracterize it. The only major complaint Bell had was that the game throws a fuckton of worldbuilding text at you, and if you don't care for that world then the game really holds no appeal for you. The implicit contrast, I think, is that other RPGs have mechanics like combat and stealing and whatever. Those things tide you over when the world-building doesn't click with you. I think that's a fair point. In any case, the Recommended decision seems to always come from a very personal place for RPS. I can think of plenty of games where I felt their recommendation was undeserved. I can respect that they aren't pretending to be neutral like the other sites. Don't think we need to dunk on them, particularly when this game is in no shortage of accolades.
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I didn't mean to dunk on them; my point is that their usual approach caught them unprepared, perhaps? I felt that the recommendation became implicit with the other writers coming along and putting their thoughts out there, instead of the explicit one coming from a review. also  hahaha, I didn't get that Encyclopedia check first time
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tripwood posted:Also, there are hints that Harry may have grown as a street urchin himself in a street gang, so it explains why Cuno can learn to respect him so easily. Possible source here: https://discoelysium.gamepedia.com/The_Fifteenth_Indotribe
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Zero VGS posted:Yes, it is a figure of speech, like "brother from another mother". That fact that English isn't the writer's first language is insane to me, with the level of nuance he achieves. I specifically took it to mean he's a cop from a different precinct. Brothers in blue, but sort of from a different "family," which makes him your half-brother. That it's Esprit de Corps telling you that makes sense too, IMO.
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Perhaps a hamster posted:Lol, I didn't read that as a street gang at all, that's just growing up Eastern Europe style. kinda like the kids in season 4 of the wire. no opportunities, no real education and the only 'easy' way out was joining the drug trade. oscarthewilde fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Alpheratz posted:Its amazing how the RPS writers went from the initial kneejerk rejection of DE to actually falling in love with the game I MEAN If DE doesn’t deserve the gently caress out of it Then, honestly, who the gently caress even does at all Perhaps a hamster posted:Lol, I didn't read that as a street gang at all, that's just growing up Eastern Europe style. Foglet fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Dec 1, 2019 |
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Accordion Man posted:I honestly felt not having Kim with me really stressed how hard poo poo had hit the fan. Though I did save everyone else I could. At least if you're on good enough terms with him, (like failing the authority check at 92%  ), you can get a side-flash from esprit d'corps. Even in a hospital bed Kim still has your back and tells some other cops to better get down to Martinique and help Harry instead of questioning Kim about what happened.
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Digital Osmosis posted:I specifically took it to mean he's a cop from a different precinct. Brothers in blue, but sort of from a different "family," which makes him your half-brother. That it's Esprit de Corps telling you that makes sense too, IMO. It also calls the guy with his son the same thing.
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question about the autopsy: if you found the bullet, you did everything? no need to put the guy in the fridge?
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dead gay comedy forums posted:question about the autopsy: If you opted in to taking his boots, you might also want to do that before sending the body away.
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dead gay comedy forums posted:question about the autopsy: Many things only unlock with failure. Finding a fridge to put the body in is one of those, and you might as well do it for the XP if you can, assuming you amped a skill to get a reroll going.
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So I'm really confused right now. I'm toward the end of the game, I think, in the middle of the tribunal shootout and have a possible bug or broken gamestate or...something? I keep failing checks even though I make a successful roll? I tried a logic roll with a 93% chance...I think? Made it easily, but the "FAILED" text/result pops up and Liz gets shot. I reloaded and tried it a few times with the same result. Then I tried a rhetoric roll with a 97% chance ("come up with something, blah, blah") and the same thing happens. When I mouse over the roll text the "results" pop-up even shows me as succeeding, but I'm still failing in-game? Has anyone seen this before? Are these rolls really auto-fail for some reason? If so, I haven't seen the game do that before and it kind of sucks rear end. aas Bandit fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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aas Bandit posted:So I'm really confused right now. I'm toward the end of the game, I think, in the middle of the tribunal shootout and have a possible bug or broken gamestate or...something? Do you have that thought that makes you fail all red checks while you're thinking about it?
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Epic High Five posted:Do you have that thought that makes you fail all red checks while you're thinking about it? Motherfucker. Thank you! I even thought when I activated it, "Hey remember this or you'll get really confused." Sad.
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I love that everything about that thought is a terrible game-ruining trap, because it is a bad thought.
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Which thought is it? I don't think I've come across a thought that's so obviously bad and not good.
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The automatic red checks failure thought is Precarious World, which is by no means a trap option, and also has one of the best problem/solution texts in the entire game: 
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The precarious world is most useful if you’re save-scumming, I’d say. Going from a 3% chance of critical success to 8% makes hitting the success that bit easier and less tedious. But for regular play I don’t think I’d ever take it because that 8% chance of critical failure on a check you absolutely should pass would feel way worse than the successes.
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I think the increased crit failure is why I failed like three 97% Conceptualisation checks, making it so that instead of a talented art cop I was a pretentious wanker who constantly thinks random things are ~art~ but is unable to actually produce anything worth a drat
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I'm curious, is there more to the ominous red chair in a shack, where you also find the bowtie?
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Sekenr posted:I'm curious, is there more to the ominous red chair in a shack, where you also find the bowtie? I think it ties in with a story the washerwoman says, but there is no content I found, just a bit of set dressing.
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So is the reference to turning into seagulls or a pillar of salt in The Precarious World's solution text a Drakengard 3/NieR reference, or am I imagining it?
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Sinner Sandwich posted:So is the reference to turning into seagulls or a pillar of salt in The Precarious World's solution text a Drakengard 3/NieR reference, or am I imagining it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot%27s_wife
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Sinner Sandwich posted:So is the reference to turning into seagulls or a pillar of salt in The Precarious World's solution text a Drakengard 3/NieR reference, or am I imagining it? quote:You are the salt of the earth, but if the salt has lost its flavor, with what will it be salted? It is then good for nothing, but to be cast out and trodden under the feet of men. — Matthew 5:13 (World English Bible)
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Rabid Snake posted:This delores dei fellow seems like a "holy" george washington figure. she had a mandatory education programs (lets be real "reeducation" seems like a brainwashing) and mass resettlement? and called her military force the "army of humanity"? I hope we get to slay this poo poo
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I have just finished this game and it was rad. Needs a closer eye on some of the text though, especially through/though mistakes and a couple of paragraphs near the end had obviously never even been looked at by an editor. I get there's a lot of text to check but at least turn on spellcheck. Biggest regrets: Ruby blew her own brains out and eight people died in the shootout because I was hoping for a non-violent resolution. Kim murked two 'em, motherfucker is ice-cold, not exactly what I was hoping for.
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Blessed Protect kim.
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If you guys haven't looked on Youtube to see what happens if you pass the dancing check in the stave church club then you should watch this video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbbBd5myZ0M Text description of video in spoiler You dance so hard you commune with the spirit of the City of Revachol, who tells you that you must save the city from being destroyed by a nuclear device. This happens in a short story by the game's writer, apparently.
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Gort posted:If you guys haven't looked on Youtube to see what happens if you pass the dancing check in the stave church club then you should watch this video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbbBd5myZ0M Sadly, I passed that virtually impossible dance check, and then critically failed the 97% chance Shivers check and just passed out without getting the weird vision. I did get to order Kim, as his superior officer, as my one and only rank-pull, to cut a rug.
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Gort posted:If you guys haven't looked on Youtube to see what happens if you pass the dancing check in the stave church club then you should watch this video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbbBd5myZ0M Well poo poo, I passed the dance check and the Shivers check, but it's the passive Reaction Speed one that failed me so I never got the "Why are you afraid?" option; which in turn finally explains how I got the vision without getting the nuclear device part spelled out. Guess I know what I'm gonna max out next playthrough, in addition to making sure Kim's with me for this part!
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The devlog thread has some really excellent posts from the writer that I've been thinking about all morning https://zaumstudio.com/2016/07/12/benefits-modern-fantasy-world/ some spoilers
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Do they sell prints of the game's art anywhere? I'm normally 100% averse to merch of all kinds but drat if I wouldn't take some kind of print of the (endgame spoilers) phasmid.
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xiw posted:The devlog thread has some really excellent posts from the writer that I've been thinking about all morning Everything he says about how unrealistic and static the 'grittywelt' is is absolutely spot on.
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xiw posted:The devlog thread has some really excellent posts from the writer that I've been thinking about all morning kind of unfair to compare it to other games now, I don't think 99% of video game writers know what 'modernity' is
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Another decent videoessay about DE: Disco Elysium is a Role-Playing Dream Come True by RagnarRox
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Lightningproof posted:Do they sell prints of the game's art anywhere? I'm normally 100% averse to merch of all kinds but drat if I wouldn't take some kind of print of the (endgame spoilers) phasmid. IIRC they've said they have plans but they don't have physical merch in place in general yet. Someday there will be a thought cabinet poster 
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