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Uncle Wemus posted:Wait did the GB in LGBT stand for Great Britain all this time?? Just lol if you’re not from London Gaybi
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That's almost a word for word copy of trumps favorite "never met the person" bullshit. Uncle Wemus posted:Wait did the GB in LGBT stand for Great Britain all this time?? Brexit is all about gender equality.
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So... https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1201876618802860034 he won't comment but no he doesn't support the protesters. Cue about 40 minutes later and.. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1201887098049089538 "I've supported the protesters forever"
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Parnas, Parnas...oh yeah, don’t know him. Maybe he got us coffee one time. I talk to a lot of people. Besides what about that Ukrainian company with the server huh?
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Amazing Zimmo posted:So... Ask no questions of the Trump, for he will give you three answers, each more terrible than the last and each wrong.
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If they haven't verified this yet they could literally just dial the number and Trump will answer and immediately be like I'LL NEVER SAY IT OUT LOUD BUT THIS IS MY NUMBER IT'S NOT TRUE AND YOU'D NEVER HEAR ME EVEN THINK IT BUT YOU'RE CALLING MY NUMBER RIGHT NOW AND I'M HERE.
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Neo Rasa posted:If they haven't verified this yet they could literally just dial the number and Trump will answer and immediately be like I'LL NEVER SAY IT OUT LOUD BUT THIS IS MY NUMBER IT'S NOT TRUE AND YOU'D NEVER HEAR ME EVEN THINK IT BUT YOU'RE CALLING MY NUMBER RIGHT NOW AND I'M HERE. If Trump answered he would immediately threaten you with tariffs if you don't publicly state that Biden is a baby murderer.
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Amazing Zimmo posted:If Trump answered he would immediately threaten you with tariffs if you don't publicly state that Biden is a baby murderer. "Don't be a tough guy! Don't be a fool."
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UNC got a $2.5 million dollar fund to protect the Silent Sam Confederate monument. Unsurprisingly, the defense of silent sam was likely linked to a White Supremacist group https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1201654419688951809?s=09
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Discendo Vox posted:Okay, let's get things started here. I've got limited time so you're not getting a narrative essay, you're getting bullet points. I am genuinely something of an expert on soda taxes, having researched and published on the subject. I agree with all of the fearmongering health stuff, though I think obesity is only one health concern, I'd argue that diabetes is probably the biggest risk from sugary drinks, with obesity being a contributing factor. how are soda taxes not regressive when they proportionally target lower income folks more? I mean really any consumption tax is inherently regressive by definition unless you have some kind of rebate system, no?
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Amazing Zimmo posted:Crossposting: Oh dear. This is kinda funny cause I can’t believe Macron and BoJo like each other much and my PM is poo poo talking which I appreciate but now Cheeto Mussolini is going to loving invade Canada and I haven’t finished my Xmas shopping. E: makes more sense with the tweet https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1202047174793682944?s=21 squirrelzipper fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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ewiley posted:how are soda taxes not regressive when they proportionally target lower income folks more? I mean really any consumption tax is inherently regressive by definition unless you have some kind of rebate system, no? The tax (almost always, since the original ones in NYC) is applied to distributors, not to consumers.The passthrough arguments involved are...messy. The ABA used proxies to argue that this was a "grocery tax" because of course, automatically, stores would pass the price increase on to consumers...but the stores didn't always do so. The ABA actually lost some court cases in CA over this, iirc. otoh, several of the main arguments about the efficacy of the taxes do depend on direct price increases, but others are actually based on changing distributor behaviors, not consumer behaviors. on the third, mutant hand, a quantity-based consumption tax is inherently a flat tax, not inherently regressive. The argument that sin taxes are regressive depends on relative rates of consumption among income groups, and depends on the assumption of limited elasticity. To the degree that these are taxes genuinely designed to drive the behavior downward, this is a weird assumption. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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squirrelzipper posted:Oh dear. This is kinda funny cause I can’t believe Macron and BoJo like each other much and my PM is poo poo talking which I appreciate but now Cheeto Mussolini is going to loving invade Canada and I haven’t finished my Xmas shopping. Again, I'm quite bemused at how much BoJo utterly despises Trump despite being made out to be his UK analog. That he's willing to yuk it up with Macron and Trudeau about how much Trump sucks is a testament to that.
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nine-gear crow posted:Again, I'm quite bemused at how much BoJo utterly despises Trump despite being made out to be his UK analog. That he's willing to yuk it up with Macron and Trudeau about how much Trump sucks is a testament to that.
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Discendo Vox posted:The tax (almost always, since the original ones in NYC) is applied to distributors, not to consumers.The passthrough arguments involved are...messy. The ABA used proxies to argue that this was a "grocery tax" because of course, automatically, stores would pass the price increase on to consumers...but the stores didn't always do so. The ABA actually lost some court cases in CA over this, iirc. otoh, several of the main arguments about the efficacy of the taxes do depend on direct price increases, but others are actually based on changing distributor behaviors, not consumer behaviors. on the third, mutant hand, a quantity-based consumption tax is inherently a flat tax, not inherently regressive. The argument that sin taxes are regressive depends on relative rates of consumption among income groups, and depends on the assumption of limited elasticity. To the degree that these are taxes genuinely designed to drive the behavior downward, this is a weird assumption. Thanks for the great, informative post. I can say in Seattle, at least, retail shops usually have a sign explicitly mentioning the tax and how much is added on.
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pthighs posted:Thanks for the great, informative post. I can say in Seattle, at least, retail shops usually have a sign explicitly mentioning the tax and how much is added on. That may even be a part of the law- they do vary a lot by location, and I don't know the details of most of them all that well on that level. Getting these provisions introduced into municipal government is reportedly a horrible mess, because local politics is as scummy and messy as you can imagine.
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Angry_Ed posted:They think Adam Schiff is committing treason but don't seem to be calling for him to be hanged. That tells you all you need to know. Because you don’t hang Jews, there’s another method they prefer...
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Sorry to barge in with an unrelated post but I’ve always seen a YouTube series/podcast mentioned in here that goes deep into Donald and Fred Trump’s history but I cannot remember the name of it. I remember it went into detail about fred/don’s relationship and also talked about stuff such as fred trump being a member of the KKK. I’d appreciate it if anyone could possibly point me in the right direction.
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Otteration posted:https://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/1201351943790174208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1201351943790174208 She only shows the left side of her face in this video. I wonder if that’s intentional.
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HORSEPORN posted:Sorry to barge in with an unrelated post but I’ve always seen a YouTube series/podcast mentioned in here that goes deep into Donald and Fred Trump’s history but I cannot remember the name of it. I remember it went into detail about fred/don’s relationship and also talked about stuff such as fred trump being a member of the KKK. I’d appreciate it if anyone could possibly point me in the right direction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osOkysoJgcc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr17fMPT0Xg
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So apparently Devin Nunes did follow through and filed suit against CNN seeking $435 MILLION in damages https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/12/03/devin-nunes-sues-cnn-million-alleging-it-published-false-hit-piece/ 
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The Glumslinger posted:So apparently Devin Nunes did follow through and filed suit against CNN seeking $435 MILLION in damages The funny part of this afaik is he filed suit prior to the phone records being made public. So, yeah. He’s gonna have some challenges sticking the landing I think.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1202081280696954882 Bill Barr managed to fly under my radar until relatively recently but holy poo poo how did this stupid motherfucker rise as high as he did? How has this country managed to function (for a certain definition of the term) this long in spite of these assholes?
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Failson whose Dad springboarded Jeffery Epstein to elite attention. Seriously.
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Discendo Vox posted:on the third, mutant hand I think a lot of people are slyly referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gripping_Hand, which you can just read the Wiki to get the gist of, if you don't want to read the book. https://twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1201813909696655361
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1202081280696954882 Our top law enforcement official is suggesting that local police should start running a protection racket. Great!
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pkay posted:Our top law enforcement official is suggesting that local police should start running a protection racket. Great! You might be interested to know that many police officers believe themselves to be doing just that. See: Ferguson, et al.
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i am harry posted:You might be interested to know that many police officers believe themselves to be doing just that. See: Ferguson, et al. I am aware of this. However, letting the veneer slip and outright say this isn't normal and should atleast raise eyebrows.
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Acute Grill posted:Bill Barr managed to fly under my radar until relatively recently but holy poo poo how did this stupid motherfucker rise as high as he did? How has this country managed to function (for a certain definition of the term) this long in spite of these assholes? His father was part of the original OSA, which was the forerunner to the CIA. He gave Epstein his first job. So nepotism to begin. poo poo loads of accumulated dirt and knowing the right people. After that, he's competent enough to understand how to run an administration, which is actually no easy task. Understanding where the levers of power are, which ones you have access to immediately, what levers you can gain access to with time, what levers you can create and what levers are either completely out of your reach or don't exist at all is a specialized skill. The Trump administration not having many friendly career bureaucrats is one of the reasons that it hasn't done more damage than it already has. It wastes a shitload of time trying to accomplish things that it has no right to do or are completely nonsensical. Time, budget, manpower, attention and competency are the main resources of any institution. If any one of those resources are low, the institution's ability to function is reduced. Manpower, attention and competency are the main limiting factors, though there are also time pressures as the admin is on the defensive. For all of Barr's faults, he's competent enough to be effective, but not competent enough to get away with everything. Honestly though, with his father's closeness to Epstein, Barr will most likely never see the inside of a jail. Spies and people who have the loyalty of spies create a lot of dirt as a kind of get out of jail free card if given enough time. It prevents action. Barr most likely walks away from everything he's done because if he sees actual prosecution, he can take down a lot of people with him, most likely with Epstein dirt or something equivalent. Now this isn't a perfect defense, because he can only soak up so much heat before the public demand his head and he also has to believe in the Trump administration and he seems to be taking moves to protect himself. The fact that he's competent in some ways and stupid in others doesn't really matter because he'll never be prosecuted unless the the dems bring out the knives for a real bloodletting and honestly, I don't see that happening. Republican ghouls are allowed to get away because the dems don't go for the throat. With that in mind, what matters is if Barr is effective or not and thankfully he seems to have reached his maximum effectiveness and that's receding as he loses those finite resources I mentioned above. When Barr is tasked with literally investigating Hillary Clinton's emails, that's just a wild rear end goose chase. Normally you'd task some dead ender the job, but Trump actually wants dirt on Hillary along with other nonsense tasks because he's a profoundly stupid creature. Barr can ignore him and probably is, but chaos is poison for institutions and the loss of institutional knowledge by elder bureaucrats severely reduced the ability of said institutions to function. In government, normally you can contact them for fees or favors to pull on their experience, but the loss of institutional knowledge from people who resign in protest is most likely total. The loss of that knowledge is absolutely devastating to institutions and severely reduces their effectiveness in the short, mid and long term. Over and over again I stress how much we lucked out with incompetent fascists. If they were going to gain control, Trump was probably the best fascist to gain control because he's comically incompetent and he abuses everyone around him regardless of their effectiveness and willingness to commit atrocities and crimes on his behalf. Trump doesn't understand the levers of power and can only pull them in the most basic of fashions. A competent fascist would absolutely have run over the state, the news media would have made sure those boots were tongue bathed and left wing activists wouldn't have been able to organize fast enough to counter competence. While the US is going to come out of this administration in a really rough way, being comically evil and crass and rude and generally awful is creating reactionary centrist and left wing movements that may very well snap back and smash the conservatives and the Nazis for their overreach.
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