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https://twitter.com/KeejayOV2/status/1122246309061304326?s=20
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 00:39 |
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Tesseraction posted:is this the limmy tweet I hope not Azza Bamboo posted:go on. mostly about how the campaign is going, the fact the polls seem to be trending the right way and he reckons the Tory vote has topped out, there were apparently 700 people out for canvassing against Ian Duncan Smith the other day and they're still targeting offensive marginals most interesting thing was that the EU are apparently ready to bite corbyns hand off with the deal he's proposing, they're planning on sending negotiators within hours if we win and Michel Barnier allegedly said something like "why do you need 3 months to negotiate a new deal" and reckons they could do it in 6 weeks. all p good stuff for conversations with people who are fed up of Brexit imho overall it all seems p positive, apart from some stuff about how antisemitism is a massive issue on the door steps in some north London seats also he shook my hand, which was a bit surreal as I'd just turned up at the campaign office and he just sort of wandered over before I'd realised it was him
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 00:43 |
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Angepain posted:how much does it cost to rig the election to bring about a Labour government? the pound isn't doing that well so it can't be that much They should be selling (strawberry) jam socialism in the markets. £1 from every jar to the labour coffers. Also I’m definitely not successful enough as a writer to buy an election, regrettably.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 00:47 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Outflanking the enemy and hitting his sides and rear is a manoeuvre that works regardless of scale. Admittedly it's a lot harder to do with bigger armies, but it was applied successfully on a strategic scale in WW2. Yeah but I still think it's jacking off to say you're gonna recreate Cannae, "the perfect victory," with your plans. Sure there's some relevance, but it's just been an obsession for loads of wankers for ages. In any case I think it's a highly situational manoeuvre that is usually a worse choice than an Alexander-style weighted flank strike and then rolling up the enemy line. For one thing, even if you succeed you're now dealing with a surrounded army that can't run away and will now fight to the death. Hannibal's casualties at Cannae were shockingly high for a victorious army, because they spent all day butchering the surrounded Romans. You need a huge cavalry advantage to be sure that you can win decisively on both flanks. It's risky to not focus more strength on one flank. My many hours playing Total War games back me up on this Edit: Oh and one of the reasons it was the right choice at Cannae was that the Romans crammed too many men into a small space. Surrounding the extremely deep formation helped to neutralise some of the disparity in numbers. Braggart fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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Satire is officially dead. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/15/margaret-thatcher-iron-lady-ira Stewart Lee posted:There are many revelations in the released documents that appear with hindsight to show Thatcher implementing unambiguously brilliant and pragmatic strategies. Much has been made of how, despite the terrifying reality of their threats to her, she nevertheless "opened the back door for negotiations with the IRA" and initiated the peace process that Tony Blair took credit for. I went to the Public Record Office to scour the documents.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:01 |
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Lord of the Llamas posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Jen4TruroAndFal/status/1202346755439939586 I dont want to shitstir until after we win but in 8 days Im going to loving melt down at this
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:04 |
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Labour should probably think about getting in a fresh leader if Corbyn loses, but the right is absolutely convinced that the left wing resurgence is due to a bunch of stupid kids caught in a cult and that it'll all blow over if they lose the election. Losing the election isn't the time to quiet down and rethink, it's the time to get a second wind and meet every crushing right wing policy with a resounding "should have loving voted for us then, shouldn't you?"
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:08 |
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local politics is the loving worst
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:08 |
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One day elections will no longer be about policy at all but just a selection of competing elaborate theories on why voting for this party is tactically your only choice if you don't want your Vote to be Wasted. Bar charts forever
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:08 |
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So this is from here which has often had stories about celebrities before they go public and tons of poo poo that never would such as this
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:10 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Labour should probably think about getting in a fresh leader if Corbyn loses I see this bandied about a fair bit. What’s the definition of lose, here? The media will say he’s lost unless he gets an outright majority.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:10 |
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PriorMarcus posted:What about Labour? I think it's fair to say that Corbyn needs to stand down after this. If he looses another GE to this opposition then he's clearly just bad at getting elected. You can argue, correctly, that the media is biased against him, but he's also very bad at playing that game, etc. There is no way that anyone with a political platform similar to Corbyn/the current Labour Party could 'play that game' and get the media as it stands onside. None of the criticisms of Corbyn from the media are made in good faith. If he shifted his stance or his rhetoric in the direction they want it wouldn't be enough and be a sign of weakness/lack of principles. If he capitulated entirely they would move onto something else. For al lthe handwrining "Lots of good ideas but I'd never vote for Corbyn" or "Jeremey Corbyn has ruined the Labour Party", the media don't have any specific animosity towards Corbyn. They are against left-wing political positions as a whole. I'd say that one of Corbyn's strengths is that he has never even tried to play the game, because he knew he could never win. He slagged off the media in his leadership victory speech and he (and his staff) have basically refused to take any of the bait that has been thrown at them or stoop to their level (vis: the brilliant picture of him being driven away from the journalist imploring him to give him a molehill to make into a mountain). Yes, you could say that Corbyn comes with some unhelpful 'baggage' that's easy to spin into a negative image. But you can be assured that you could take, say, Laura Pidcock - someone who's only in their early 30s and has only been active in politics for two years - and the media would find all sorts of 'criticisms' to lay on her. And if they couldn't find them they'd just make them up. Remember that some of Corbyn's 'crimes' include not bowing at the correct angle, going near Trotsky's house one time, having an unruly climbing plant on the front of his house and not being suitably impressed by the architecture of Vienna. The media will only be happy with a Labour leader that abandons the party's current platform. It's as simple as that.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:12 |
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mediaphage posted:I see this bandied about a fair bit. What’s the definition of lose, here? The media will say he’s lost unless he gets an outright majority. A worse result than 2017, in my mind.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:18 |
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mediaphage posted:I see this bandied about a fair bit. What’s the definition of lose, here? The media will say he’s lost unless he gets an outright majority. And if he does win one? They will cry electoral fraud.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:21 |
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mediaphage posted:I see this bandied about a fair bit. What’s the definition of lose, here? The media will say he’s lost unless he gets an outright majority. Yeah, if Labour don't improve their number of MPs then that's a bad result. It's 9 and a half years of Tory misrule. 40 years of neoliberalism. If we can't make gains in these circumstances even with a poisonous media it's a problem because the media isn't changing on its own volition. I'd be disappointed if we're not the largest party at least. We need to be in government.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:27 |
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PriorMarcus posted:So, genuine question; what happens when Labour looses and we get a Tory majority large enough to push their legislation? Because, honestly, that's looking like the most likely scenario right now.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:30 |
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https://twitter.com/combabeannie/status/1202355700413935617?s=20 https://twitter.com/combabeannie/status/1202355825169313792?s=20
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:31 |
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Best of luck from Ireland. The one suggestion I would make looking at all those young people who have registered to vote and now have to be coaxed into the ballot box and vote Labour is this. I’d advise people to draw their attention to the other side of this debate, to the Tories all getting ready to auction off the NHS, cut up their rail passes and generally dick them over, to the media who all have their “Corbyn most go” editorials already written, telling you every night the polling is in and the election basically decided and the Lib Dem’s being the Lib Dem’s and I’d ask them “Do you notice just how smug these guys and gals are? How absolutely sure they’ve got this one figured out? Think of the meme potential in this one kids. This is a once in a lifetime chance to really melt some heads, if you’ve ever wanted to annoy this crew of gently caress wits you will never have a better chance. You have a genuine chance of meltdowns on live TV, of frank disbelief, of side by side video edits of people back tracking previous points so fast they run into themselves. Vote Labour, election night will totally be worth it.”
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:37 |
HidaO-Win posted:Best of luck from Ireland. Someone get #GeneralMemelection trending
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:44 |
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Breaking a long time lurking record to say: Agreed. Want to see the BBC melt down live? Piers Morgan and co shoot themselves on TV? Want billionaires to panic? Vote Labour.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:44 |
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My attempts to get Christmas shopping done in time are never that successful. However, this year I have decided to get my dad - who recently claimed that Corbyn (who has stood up for personal freedoms and human rights his entire political career) would throw journalists in prison the moment he becomes Prime Minister - a copy of Killing Hope. This is, admittedly, very petty of me. But it's a gift that's probably a few years overdue, given his luge-like descent into right-wing paranoia.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:46 |
Progject posted:Breaking a long time lurking record to say: Agreed. Want to see the BBC melt down live? Piers Morgan and co shoot themselves on TV? I love the idea. Young people! Vote Labour! Imagine the fuckin memes!!
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:49 |
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Sorry but I'll be voting conservative for a steady stream of content for the podcast.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:50 |
If Labour win I'll have a pretty steady stream of content
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:52 |
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Guys...I'm scared.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:52 |
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All these absolute cunts everyone hates - Farage, all the Tories, etc, can all get severely owned in one night and all it takes is to just travel to one place and tick a box. Imagine the melt downs. The memes. The collective "OK boomer" can be real. If this doesn't excite almost every millenial, I don't know what to even say anymore
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:54 |
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Bundy posted:If Labour win I'll have a pretty steady stream of content You should get that checked out
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:55 |
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Progject posted:All these absolute cunts everyone hates - Farage, all the Tories, etc, can all get severely owned in one night and all it takes is to just travel to one place and tick a box. I've tweeted the idea let's see if it gets any traction
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:58 |
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Oh shiiiiiiit
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:58 |
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Progject posted:All these absolute cunts everyone hates - Farage, all the Tories, etc, can all get severely owned in one night and all it takes is to just travel to one place and tick a box. Can I copy this verbatim to tweet? Everyone els should as well and if we all like and boost each other's tweets we might get somewhere
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:00 |
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Yes. Yes you can. Edit: obviously add the obligatory "Vote Labour" tagline
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:02 |
Coohoolin posted:Can I copy this verbatim to tweet? Everyone els should as well and if we all like and boost each other's tweets we might get somewhere https://twitter.com/NinpoUK/status/1202391617207971840 My version if someone wants to tweak it to fit a hashtag. I thought it might have been a good idea to twee to Ash and Momentum the idea. Verbatim I couldn't get it to fit in one tweet.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:04 |
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if labour get a majority i hope the first budget after its settled down includes increasing corporation tax much higher than the 26^% in the manifesto
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:07 |
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I'm a "only have an account to read other accounts" kind of user, but I'm retweeting regardless. Again, the idea of entire television networks, right-wing pundits, JACOB REES-MOGG and co, like 90% of LBC hosts, etc simply not knowing how to respond to a Labour majority is SO juicy, so very tempting... right, young people?
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:09 |
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I made the mistake of checking in on Brainworms are Free. Current hot takes from the Graun’s readership: -I’m never voting Labour again, and I can’t stop crying thinking about the Tory governments I’ll vote in; -Why do Labour canvassers leave after I tell them I won’t be voting Labour? DEBATE ME YOU COWARDS; -How dare people try to make me feel hope. Leave me to my misery, stop pretending you ‘care’; -<weird one-handed fanfic about young people being physically sick with anguish on Dec 13>. I don’t know why I do this to myself. It’s worse than footy message boards. It’s probably worse than youtube comments
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:11 |
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Honestly if Labour don't win next week (or get a decent enough number in a hung parliament) then I'll probably just give up on socialism being achieved in the UK democratically. That's not me saying I'm going guerrilla because trust me I'm too out of shape to say nothing of the hassle of living on the lam in a country of selfish cunts. I just cannot accept that our hell country will see a change of government ideology outside of the election this week coming.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:13 |
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My canvassing board told me to go to St James's Palace today to convince some guy with a triple barrelled surname to vote Labour. Sadly the cops with guns wouldn't let me past the front gate.
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:17 |
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https://twitter.com/LeftoriumThe/status/1202378037406384128?s=19 Normal country
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:18 |
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Does literally anyone give a poo poo about this? I dont think I know anyone who ‘sits down to watch the queens speech as a family’
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# ? Dec 5, 2019 02:20 |