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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol they're all cowards

https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1202247290532048896?s=20

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xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice
Hi Northumbrian Water, I will fill out your survery. Thank you.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Can't believe Corbyn failed to deal with anti-antisemetism

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Can't believe Corbyn failed to deal with anti-antisemetism

When you care about Jewish people so much you don't even care what the term is.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Exioce posted:

And people with mental health issues have a tendency to latch on to these grand projects to fix the world instead of working towards fixing themselves. Swings and roundabouts.

Okay, the rest of your stuff is just tedious but this says a lot about you. You roll in here looking for a fight, and you directly attack people with mental health issues in an effort to score points. You must be aware that there are plenty of people here with MH issues, we talk about it a lot. So you're trying to hurt posters in this thread who you do not know with hate speech. Take a loving look at yourself, grow up and try to be a less vile, hateful little oval office.

Everyone, please rip this motherfucker a new one.

Edit: Or don't! Videogames has spoken :D


Any mods reading this, I hope you ban their rear end.


Edit2: I put Edit1 where it better expressed what I mean ;)

Braggart fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Dec 5, 2019

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Big headline on one of the print 'news' papers today (didn't catch which one) - Johnson promising tax cuts to millions as soon as brexit done. I wonder if he ran that by Javid - how will they pay for all the stuff they've promised in their liefesto if they cut the taxes? Or is this another respend of the £350m? (All rhetorical questions btw!)

Brexit Party chat:

Brexit Party Essex branch - voting labour after feeling betrayed by Farage

https://twitter.com/BrexitEssex/status/1197906113804591105

Labour canvassers being beaten up chat:

(Charlotte Nichols is Jewish labour ppc Warrington North).

https://twitter.com/charlotte2153/status/1202247013103996929?s=20

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish
https://mobile.twitter.com/Cassetteboy/status/1202510614314278914

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Can this be the Christmas No 1?

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Big headline on one of the print 'news' papers today (didn't catch which one) - Johnson promising tax cuts to millions as soon as brexit done. I wonder if he ran that by Javid - how will they pay for all the stuff they've promised in their liefesto if they cut the taxes? Or is this another respend of the £350m? (All rhetorical questions btw!)

Javid absolutely loves cutting taxes, it was the spending and providing services part of government he hates so he's probably very happy.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

the bbc political editor should probably explain why she is coordinating this JLM thing with omar katerji, a serial stalker and harasser, spook piece of poo poo who was fired from the daily mail not a week ago for being too much of a psychopath. could this perhaps indicate there is a lack of good faith on both their parts here?

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Cast_No_Shadow posted:

40-45% in polls for Tories confuses the gently caress out of me.

That's almost every other voter. Where the gently caress are they? I can't find them anywhere can you?

I mean, ok i don't hang out with Tories. But even if I look at the Tory fucks in my team.

1 is "can't be arsed with it they are all terrible I'm not voting"
1 is "I voted leave but all the homeless is really bad and we've had long enough of Tories so I think I'm voting labour"
1 is "eh I'll still vote tory"
1 is "Thatcher did nothing wrong, jez is an anti remote blah blah blah"

That's not a poll of everyone that's just the 4 people who are full on torys and voted tory in 17.

Where are these supposed hordes of Tories?

You need to remember that a very large number of people just don't vote, turn out hasn't reached 70%+ since 1997 and the majority of those 30%+ who don't vote are younger more left voters.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

WHAT ANTISEMITISM GIVE ME ONE loving EXAMPLE JESUS loving CHRIST

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/facebook-advertising-labour-jeremy-corbyn-attack-anti-extremism-a9234041.html

quote:

A self-styled "anti-extremism" and pro-"civility" group is spending thousands of pounds running anti-Labour attack adverts on Facebook focusing on the party's tax and nationalisation policies.

Mainstream UK describes itself as "a new campaign designed to encourage a return to respectable and responsible politics, and to banish extremism from British politics once and for all".

But despite the non-partisan branding and mission statement under which it solicits cash donations, the group's entire advertising output is in actual fact targeted at the opposition Labour party – the bulk of it on issues like taxation and public ownership.

etc


Supporters include well-known fans of Labour such as Rachel Riley, Maureen Lipman and most if not all of the artists formerly known as CUKTIGs.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50666812

This seems a bit hosed up. Anyone got advice on a better bank to switch to?

edit: and yes I already knew they were poo poo

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/facebook-advertising-labour-jeremy-corbyn-attack-anti-extremism-a9234041.html


Supporters include well-known fans of Labour such as Rachel Riley, Maureen Lipman and most if not all of the artists formerly known as CUKTIGs.

It's so, so, so predictable.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

bump_fn posted:

WHAT ANTISEMITISM GIVE ME ONE loving EXAMPLE JESUS loving CHRIST

Of Anti-Semitism in labour? While I disagree with the claim that labour haven't been addressing the problem, I don't think you can argue there haven't been any cases. Unless you think those '12 expulsions and 49 resignations from the party and 187 formal warnings' were all unjustified.

I think its better to argue that labour are taking unprecedented action to deal with the issue than to claim the issue didnt/doesn't exist.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Mega Comrade posted:

Of Anti-Semitism in labour? While I disagree with the claim that labour haven't been addressing the problem, I don't think you can argue there haven't been any cases. Unless you think those '12 expulsions and 49 resignations from the party and 187 formal warnings' were all unjustified.

I think its better to argue that labour are taking unprecedented action to deal with the issue than to claim the issue didnt/doesn't exist.

what antisemitism has corbyn failed to deal with

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Mega Comrade posted:

Of Anti-Semitism in labour? While I disagree with the claim that labour haven't been addressing the problem, I don't think you can argue there haven't been any cases. Unless you think those '12 expulsions and 49 resignations from the party and 187 formal warnings' were all unjustified.

I think its better to argue that labour are taking unprecedented action to deal with the issue than to claim the issue didnt/doesn't exist.

Yeah anyone who has been to a branch meeting knows that every one has a weird old anti-semite (they are usually also the branch's legacy tankie)

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Ask any of Corbyn’s detractors what they think is the single most egregious example of anti semitism on Corbyn’s part and they’ll absolutely refuse to answer or waffle out a reference to Israel.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Big headline on one of the print 'news' papers today (didn't catch which one) - Johnson promising tax cuts to millions as soon as brexit done. I wonder if he ran that by Javid - how will they pay for all the stuff they've promised in their liefesto if they cut the taxes? Or is this another respend of the £350m? (All rhetorical questions btw!)

Brexit Party chat:

Brexit Party Essex branch - voting labour after feeling betrayed by Farage

https://twitter.com/BrexitEssex/status/1197906113804591105

Wow, this is a whole new angle for changing the minds of people who couldn't be reached by other arguments. It won't convince all of them, but I bet it will have some effect :)

quote:

Labour canvassers being beaten up chat:

(Charlotte Nichols is Jewish labour ppc Warrington North).

https://twitter.com/charlotte2153/status/1202247013103996929?s=20

This however is utterly disgusting and infuriating. My heart goes out to people being hurt by the effects of right wing lies :(

As well as this victim, there's a link in the comments to a Guardian article about 2 canvassers in their 70s being beaten up, one left with a suspected broken jaw. Who *the gently caress* would do that? This is on the perpetrators, but it's also on these loving demagogues stirring up hatred for their own selfish gain.

I know you can't feel shame, Boris, but you loving should.

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£


Braggart posted:

Take a loving look at yourself, grow up and try to be a less vile, hateful little oval office.

Everyone, please rip this motherfucker a new one.



Previously on UKMT:

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Yeah anyone who has been to a branch meeting knows that every one has a weird old anti-semite (they are usually also the branch's legacy tankie)

We expelled ours. Felt good.

Perhaps a hamster
Jun 15, 2010


Some fire from my Twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/chunkymark/status/1202475808306147328?s=20

As for the election, I have faith. The 2017 one caught me off guard almost as much as Brexit referendum did, though obvs in a completely opposite way, and gave me hope for the future of the country. I haven't seen a contemporary politician as inspiring as Corbyn in... well, probably my entire life. That bit about how his empathy makes him stand out from the rest of the potential leaders in a way that seems almost radical is spot on.

Also, from a completely selfish POV, one of the Labour manifesto promises I'm most excited about is the extension of voting rights to all UK residents, 'cause dammit it's hard watching all this circus and knowing that watching is all you can do, because despite having lived here for 13 years you're not entitled to vote in GE. Labour majority and potential for socialist Britain could be the start of something I'd love to be part of and contribute to, but as it is, I feel like it's not my place to do so and am hesitant to get involved in anything due to not being a citizen.

It's funny, 'cause I've been hardcore socialist in my beliefs for as long as I can remember myself, but never did anything about it in practice, because in my birth country it's a pipe dream due to lingering USSR trauma, and it'll be a while before it fades away enough for "socialism" to not be a dirty word. UK was the last place I'd have expected to find a strong lefty movement too, because coming from Eastern Europe, especially wide-eyed and freshly out of my teens as I was, I had this expectation of all Western Europe countries be unflinchingly capitalist and, well, have their poo poo together when it comes to a functioning, more or less well-off society. The first shocks to the system that made me question that belief were things like the very prevalent classism and the British "press", with Brexit being the final nail in the coffin.

If not for Corbyn/Momentum/new Labour, I probably wouldn't have remained here at all, despite not having much elsewhere to go to; but, I had packed my life up and moved across countries before, more than once, so I know I can do it again if I have to.

Except, I don't really want to, because 13 years is a long time, and although I don't have any family ties or what you'd call a steady career here due to having spent most of those years in tumultuous ups and downs while trying to sort out my mental health and figure out what I want out of life, I had lived in a number of places, all of which at some point felt like home, and made close enough friends to have attachment to and give a gently caress about what happens to this country. So, I'd much rather see UK unfuck itself and be able to participate in in that process, 'cause if UK can start building functioning socialism out of nowhere, that gives hope to the rest of Europe too, and perhaps even my birth country decades down the line.

And, it would be empowering af to finally be able to put actual work towards something I believe in instead of just quietly carrying those beliefs within me.

Sorry about the ramble. Wasn't meant to be this long, guess it's just something I had to get off my chest. And, I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but, can't help but reiterate - vote for those of us who can't. Get us over the threshold, and we'll return the favour tenfold as soon as we legally can, 'cause goddamn, anecdotal data it may be, there ain't many immigrants I know who'd ever choose voting Tory.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

bump_fn posted:

what antisemitism has corbyn failed to deal with

There was that person that did some antisemetism and he was expelled, which is a poor response. Corbyn failed to deliver a proper response, which was to resign and then shoot himself in the head

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Braggart posted:

Any mods reading this, I hope you ban their rear end.


Edit: Or don't! Videogames has spoken :D

Nah, actually I think that they should still ban his rear end.

Ikwaylx
Aug 19, 2011

Drop the bandibass!

Thanks for all the talk of hope and everything guys, one of my friends at work was getting upset about the chances of a Tory majority and your advice really helped me to know what to say to try and cheer them up. Your advice really helps, keep fighting the good fight!

Thetobester
Jul 14, 2012

That final line is perfect in every way. I missed cassetteboy.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.

Necrothatcher posted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50666812

This seems a bit hosed up. Anyone got advice on a better bank to switch to?

edit: and yes I already knew they were poo poo

entertainingly if you switch to First Direct you can get around this (and get £50) but still be an HSBC customer if the branch location is why you bank with them

Trying
Sep 26, 2019

corbyn might win that would be cool

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Cerebral Bore posted:

Nah, actually I think that they should still ban his rear end.

Me too. I meant for posters to stand down from my call to arms :D

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

oh but seriously I posted:

corbyn might win that would be cool

:yeah:

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I use Nationwide. You can vote for who runs the company!

Shogi
Nov 23, 2004

distant Pohjola

Exioce posted:

And people with mental health issues have a tendency to latch on to these grand projects to fix the world instead of working towards fixing themselves. Swings and roundabouts.

You know nothing about people with mental health issues. You’d be well advised not to proffer opinions on important subjects you don’t even begin to understand. Do yourself a favour and examine your own tendencies. You will find they are those of a smarmy, pretentious oval office.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Ikwaylx posted:

Thanks for all the talk of hope and everything guys, one of my friends at work was getting upset about the chances of a Tory majority and your advice really helped me to know what to say to try and cheer them up. Your advice really helps, keep fighting the good fight!

A wonderful friend of mine is feeling extremely pessimistic and depressed, but they trust my judgement and my sympathy/adamance seem to be helping a bit :)

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

bump_fn posted:

WHAT ANTISEMITISM GIVE ME ONE loving EXAMPLE JESUS loving CHRIST
but the mural

Necrothatcher posted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50666812

This seems a bit hosed up. Anyone got advice on a better bank to switch to?
Monzo are cool if you’re willing to not have a credit card. Using them almost exclusively now.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Tesseraction posted:

I use Nationwide. You can vote for who runs the company!

I second this recommendation along with Monzo.
Nationwide serve as my more traditional bank while I use Monzo for my day to day spending and budgeting.

Its always best not to put all your eggs in one basket as if your accounts get frozen because of suspected fraud you are hosed. This happened to me a few years back, card got cloned and my previous bank just decided to freeze everything for a week while they investigated.

Pyrotoad
Oct 24, 2010


Illegal Hen

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

There was that person that did some antisemetism and he was expelled, which is a poor response. Corbyn failed to deliver a proper response, which was to resign and then shoot himself in the head

Wasn't there some blairite/ex-Labour MP who complained about how badly all the anti-semitism reports in the party were being handled and then it turned out that dealing with the anti-semitism reports was his job and he just sat on a bunch of reports doing nothing?

(Briefest delurking, like an elver in the mud. Back I go until vote day probably.)

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

Mega Comrade posted:

Its always best not to put all your eggs in one basket as if your accounts get frozen because of suspected fraud you are hosed.
I don't think it'd be wise of me to live in two overdrafts :v:

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Pyrotoad posted:

Wasn't there some blairite/ex-Labour MP who complained about how badly all the anti-semitism reports in the party were being handled and then it turned out that dealing with the anti-semitism reports was his job and he just sat on a bunch of reports doing nothing?

(Briefest delurking, like an elver in the mud. Back I go until vote day probably.)

That would be Iain McNicol

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I have a legacy HSBC and a legacy Halifax account that I use for squirelling a little bit away each month.

[jo; intensifies]

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