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pootiebigwang posted:While there are aspects to this which are definitely true (getting Metallica or literally any major label artist to supply some songs for example) there are still plenty of insanely talented and independent artists out there (the ones that have an actual reason to believe in exposure bucks) who would be more than willing to supply music at a nominal fee. I just feel like if music is literally the driving force of your game than it should be curated and thought out well beyond "beat go fast." I’m very aware. I work with one of those labels. FiXT actually. While we’re not insane to work with large artists can be. A lot of labels don’t quite understand smaller teams can’t afford insane fees and others seriously have no idea there’s even a want for music on there label. Music in gaming is definitely still a weird place. And a lot of the smaller labels don’t really know how to handle stuff like licensing for content creators or ad promos or actual game content. And let’s not forget most of this music is chopped up, remixed, all kinds of stuff to make it work for a game a lot of the time. And that’s a whole different bucket of worms there. Some artists don’t like things chopped up, may not have instrumentals, etc. It’s way more complicated than calling up random band and making it work. Keep in mind I’m not some expert but music license sales and stuff is actually something I’m doing right now this moment. Odd timing for this convo. Heh. Delta-Wye posted:It's too bad that tiny little Beat Games doesn't have money for licensing fees. I won’t comment on them, because well, lol, not a fan of how they operate. I think you’ll keep seeing more awful maps though!
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Jack Trades posted:Stormland is easily the best VR shooter on the market. Factually incorrect; H3VR has picatinny hat attachments for guns now.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Factually incorrect; H3VR has picatinny hat attachments for guns now. Yeah, plus Anton added in a way to earn them that provides players with a sense of pride and accomplishment, as all great game devs do.
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I'm picking up a Quest hopefully today after much deliberation for a long time as my first VR attempt. I don't know where to start and hope I adjust OK since I'm very motion sick prone, but I'm way excited. I've been dreaming of something like this since I was a kid for flight sim stuff. Way back when I was like 11 I had Afterburner for my NES and a little joystick controller. I borrowed a tiny TV from my grandmother (one they used in their camper when traveling) and made a little enclosure in my room out of blankets with a chair inside for my first attempt at a home simulator. So I can't wait to eventually get flight stuff setup with this as well as some games to get me more active. I'm curious to try out some of the wifi streaming options I've seen, like Virtual Desktop or ALVR. Disappointed I have to buy the VR version of some stuff I have PC versions for, but it's understandable. Thanks for all the suggestions for stuff to start collecting mentioned over the last few pages! I'm bummed I missed the recent sales, but will keep an eye out. I have family visiting during the holiday so I thought it'd be fun to get some stuff to share with them.
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Is there any way to use the link with the quest but still Chromecast to the TV? I guess I could just Chromecast my whole desktop. Like to explore Google Earth with the kiddo
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pootiebigwang posted:I'm sure this has been said a billion times and I know it's subjective but I just wish the default go to music type for games like Beat Saber and Pistol Whip wasn't the samey generic EDM. It's a completely different kind of game but the way Tetris Effect utilizes music and just the overall auditory experience is one of my favorite VR experiences so far and it contains a whole level of nuance and curation that I don't feel like has been matched in any other VR music heavy game. You might not see it as an improvement, but there is another option; where western music games default to generic EDM, East Asian music games default to generic J-pop and K-pop. Games like Airtone and Deemo Reborn have their own problems but they are at least a change from Beat Saber and Pistol Ship's styles.
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Zaphod42 posted:
Buddy I will never not smash the post button with reckless abandon.
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I'm kind of constantly disappointed by the frame performance I get on my Index with a 3900x, a 2080ti, and everything on a fast NVME drive. I can't even hit 144hz in The Lab's main level select area, mostly hovering around 100. Only places I get 120 or 144 are very simple games like Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, etc. Any tips where to start looking for potential bottlenecks on my PC? Maybe it's some settings I have in SteamVR given I do some VR dev work on the side? Looking at FPSVR it’s almost always a CPU issue.
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Dec 5, 2019 19:13
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Probably start by checking the frame timing profilier
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Calipark posted:I'm kind of constantly disappointed by the frame performance I get on my Index with a 3900x, a 2080ti, and everything on a fast NVME drive. I can't even hit 144hz in The Lab's main level select area, mostly hovering around 100. Only places I get 120 or 144 are very simple games like Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, etc. Double check and make sure steamVR isnt running at over 100% resolution scale. Then start bumping it up til you hit that point it runs like poo poo. That + In game AA and such is going to potentially murder things.
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Calipark posted:I'm kind of constantly disappointed by the frame performance I get on my Index with a 3900x, a 2080ti, and everything on a fast NVME drive. I can't even hit 144hz in The Lab's main level select area, mostly hovering around 100. Only places I get 120 or 144 are very simple games like Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, etc. Well, the problem isn't the 2080ti lol. (and the hard drive doesn't matter) 144hz stereo is a big ask for most games. Its gonna depend upon the application and settings you can tweak, but IDK. I haven't tried The Lab since I got an Index, but it was built before the Index existed when 90fps was the only real render target. You say you can get 120/144 in Beat Saber and Pistol Whip, if that's true I think that's just... how it is, dude. Obviously though you can tweak the render resolution in steamVR if you are willing to trade that for frame rate. But also maybe go over your steamvr developer settings and turn off the steamvr beta if you have it on right now. That's one thing I've been kinda wondering, is it better to do 90hz and render at 90fps or is it better to do 144hz even if that means you're constantly using reprojection? OTOH higher rate, reprojection, should make you feel better. On the other hand, reprojection isn't rendering, so that can create some weird warping artifacts. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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Thanks for the advice. Turing off SteamVR's auto resolution tweaking made a huge difference. Looks like the 2080ti was pushing the res well over what my CPU can handle in games that did their own post processing.
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Maybe try something like CPUCores that lets you constrain the OS and set CPU priorities easily?
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Clitch posted:Maybe try something like CPUCores that lets you constrain the OS and set CPU priorities easily? This is so overkill and totally not needed.
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Calipark posted:I'm kind of constantly disappointed by the frame performance I get on my Index with a 3900x, a 2080ti, and everything on a fast NVME drive. I can't even hit 144hz in The Lab's main level select area, mostly hovering around 100. Only places I get 120 or 144 are very simple games like Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, etc. If you really want to know where your frame time is going and you have the technical knowledge to make sense of its output there is no better tool than GPUView. It's very esoteric, though, and its useful documentation is limited to one blog post by a former Microsoft intern who helped develop it over a decade ago so it's not for the faint of heart. In spite of the name it's more of a tool for analyzing CPU issues than GPU ones.
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EbolaIvory posted:This is so overkill and totally not needed. If he's trying to nail down a CPU bottleneck, it's something he might get some useful info out of, seeing that he's also a developer. gently caress, you're abrasive.
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Was just thinking about what I’m really missing on my Quest and I’m thinking some kind of semi realistic racing game would be awesome. Less Mario Kart and more Forza. Would love a motorcycle game too but I’m not optimistic.
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Martytoof posted:Was just thinking about what I’m really missing on my Quest and I’m thinking some kind of semi realistic racing game would be awesome. Less Mario Kart and more Forza. Would love a motorcycle game too but I’m not optimistic. Do you have a gaming PC as well or just the Quest? Project Cars 2 and Dirt Rally 2 are both great VR racing games that will work with a link cable. I'm sure there are others but those are the two I have experience with.
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I have a gaming PC but it’s due for a refresh for VR compat, and unfortunately I don’t really play enough games to justify dropping a thousand or more CDN on it at the moment 
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You'd be shocked what kinda computers can push VR, especially at Quest framerates and if you don't mind turning the resolution scale down a little.
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Calipark posted:I'm kind of constantly disappointed by the frame performance I get on my Index with a 3900x, a 2080ti, and everything on a fast NVME drive. I can't even hit 144hz in The Lab's main level select area, mostly hovering around 100. Only places I get 120 or 144 are very simple games like Beat Saber, Pistol Whip, etc.
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Clitch posted:If he's trying to nail down a CPU bottleneck, it's something he might get some useful info out of, seeing that he's also a developer. His issue was steamvrs automatic resolution scale. Its a lot of peoples problem. (KEY POINT HERE) You recommended an application thats entirely overkill for a simple thing, without a disclaimer, explaining, or anything really. With his/her hardware, theres no reason to really to mess around at that level (More so just playing a drat game). If they were running some potato rear end hardware, and trying to eek out some extra frames, sure. But for most average VR people, this is totally out of the scope of most peoples use case. More so when they may or may not understand what it does. But hey, some people like to reach right for the shotgun and start blasting instead of understanding whats actually happening first. With that said. You could have easily just said "Hey seems like you got it sorted but this app might be useful for you as a dev in the future" Nah, You didn't do that tho. You just recommended it blindly without acknowledging the actual problem was resolved. But hey, I'm abrasive.
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Lol I was just about to say "that post wasn't really all that abrasive though?" and then welp self-fulfilling prophecy
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Zaphod42 posted:Lol I was just about to say "that post wasn't really all that abrasive though?" and then welp Was kinda on purpose. >_> Gonna call me abrasive, ill give you some.
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Death Lap just released, it's cross buy and cross play for $20. https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/1954488057986071/?locale=en_US I haven't seen any full reviews yet, but it looks great, and I've been dying for more cross play titles between Quest and Rift (I'm on Rift, but I have three friends on Quest and it really limits our multiplayer options). I've also really been wanting a game where you drive with one hand while shooting a gun with the other, and this definitely delivers on that concept.
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Speaking of new shooters, I'm waiting for sniper elite vr to come out. I get to be that bullet that shatters hitlers ball.
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Death Lap looks fun as gently caress and I can't wait for Interstate 76 VR
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rage-saq posted:A short list of my Beat Saber go to mappers for current mapping stuff that’s also good for Maul This list should include bennydabeast
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Benny is kinda hit or miss. His good stuff is really good tho
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Benny is kinda hit or miss. He had decent maps back in the dark times of mapping. Once the mapping got more complex, he totally fell off. I'd recommend him for new players but once you hit E/E+ nah, you realize quickly how meh most of his stuff is. Plus most of his stuff is honestly boring unless you REALLY love the song. Its all serviceable for the most part but he loves to throw in his benny walls and make you duck all awkwardly for no reason, combined with kinda boring copy paste mapping. At least with Rustics (older) stuff you can speed it up to 150-200% and its still kinda fun.
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Benny is good for new mappers but he hasn’t really dropped any new tracks in some time, and most of his stuff he dropped near the end was still classic Benny gen1 mapping. Not that it’s a bad thing per say Heisy maps though, are exactly my jam. Fast with amazing flow, I did this decent-ish run last night of one he did earlier this year that is still a favorite of mine called G4M3 0V3R by Celldweller https://www.twitch.tv/videos/517460295 My complaints in the vid about being able to see were because BS was lagging like hell earlier until I did some random thing that fixed it. You know, typical beat saber poo poo. When the lag is bad (but still runs) and it just kind of slows it all down it makes you feel like you’ve forgotten how to play because you can’t hit poo poo
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I love FPSvr to check out game performance on an overlay. It shows GPU and CPU load, percentage of reprojected frames, etc. These can be found via other means, but FPSvr ties it together conveniently, along with a cord twist overlay that hasn't bugged out on me like Turn Signal did. Easily worth the 3 bucks or whatever it costs.
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EbolaIvory posted:Play a harder difficulty or actually dance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAoxiX0vXpU
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100% how to play synth riders. Also that song is BOP af. I love Prizm.
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EbolaIvory posted:His issue was steamvrs automatic resolution scale. Its a lot of peoples problem. (KEY POINT HERE) Clitch posted:Maybe try something like CPUCores that lets you constrain the OS and set CPU priorities easily? The demanding tone and confidence in my post! I'm such a loving bulldog who will accept nothing short of doing exactly what I say! Or maybe I tossed out a suggestion that even Grammarly responded to with a shrug emoji, but I guess I got up to pee and didn't hit refresh before I rolled that tennis ball into the thread, so I deserve a facefull of your rabid foam spray. CPUCores is not yanking out the Windows kernel to install some experimental alien tech I received in a post DMT epiphany. It's not a drastic solution. It's a utility that does a thing I find useful once in awhile that is fairly intuitive and easy to use. If he owns it, he could see what effect, if any, it would have on his performance in all of five minutes, then turn it off and forget it exists until he loads up some old game that doesn't play well with multiple cores. That's how I use it. I wouldn't make it a week as a girl scout with that meek-assed sales patter, but apparently "hey, maybe do a thing" was so threatening to you that you had to thump your chest and shove your nuts in my face to preserve dominance over a forum thread. Yes, you're abrasive. You're also a condescending douche. Get hosed.
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Will you two just kiss and make out and record a video and send it to hotmom6969@aol.com as a joke it's someone I know and DEFINITELY not me haha
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This is abrasiveness: the thread. We’re all heavily invested in niche tech and we will die defending our purchases goldurnit
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:This is abrasiveness: the thread. We’re all heavily invested in niche tech and we will die defending our purchases goldurnit It's not niche! There are like 3 upcoming games!
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