Dwarf Fortress: The child punches the cave spider in the thorax, bruising the brain!

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Facebook Aunt: Oct 4, 2008; wiggle wiggle

I use a shitload of cage traps. It's easy enough to strip the inmates. No bodies means no bad thoughts.

Eventually I get tired of all the naked goblins and things making GBS threads up my cage/pasture interface and have to get rid of them. I've tried moving them all into a single cage near the edge of the map, hooking that cage to a lever, and just releasing them and hoping they leave, since the siege is over the should leave, but sometimes they just get stuck hanging around. Or throw them into pits, but mass pitting is complicated and even a real deep pit doesn't kill 100%. If there are invaders and animals and monsters they will fight and mostly kill each other off, but then there's corpses to deal with again. You can toss them into a shooting gallery and let the archers train, but make sure the archers can't get in when they run out of arrows and want to bash things with crossbows. Oh, and make sure the shooting gallery is obscured by walls so passing civilians don't freak out.

So one way or another they are still a pain to deal with, but cage traps give you the luxury of time to deal with it (unlike corpses).

# ? Dec 4, 2019 02:52

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# ? May 24, 2024 00:51

Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

Facebook Aunt posted:

I use a shitload of cage traps. It's easy enough to strip the inmates. No bodies means no bad thoughts.

Eventually I get tired of all the naked goblins and things making GBS threads up my cage/pasture interface and have to get rid of them. I've tried moving them all into a single cage near the edge of the map, hooking that cage to a lever, and just releasing them and hoping they leave, since the siege is over the should leave, but sometimes they just get stuck hanging around. Or throw them into pits, but mass pitting is complicated and even a real deep pit doesn't kill 100%. If there are invaders and animals and monsters they will fight and mostly kill each other off, but then there's corpses to deal with again. You can toss them into a shooting gallery and let the archers train, but make sure the archers can't get in when they run out of arrows and want to bash things with crossbows. Oh, and make sure the shooting gallery is obscured by walls so passing civilians don't freak out.

So one way or another they are still a pain to deal with, but cage traps give you the luxury of time to deal with it (unlike corpses).

I haven't played in a little while, but wouldn't magma solve the corpse and survivor problem with pitting?

# ? Dec 4, 2019 03:09

Excelzior: Jun 24, 2013

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

I haven't played in a little while, but wouldn't magma solve the corpse and survivor problem with pitting?

magma is the cause of, and solution to, all of a dwarf's problems

# ? Dec 4, 2019 03:12

0lives: Nov 1, 2012

I'm partial to a drowning chamber myself, if you've got good access to water and low access to morals

# ? Dec 4, 2019 03:13

Facebook Aunt: Oct 4, 2008; wiggle wiggle

Excelzior posted:

magma is the cause of, and solution to, all of a dwarf's problems

It's all a matter of how elaborate you want to get. Getting magma to the surface is tetchy. Drowning ponds would be easier, but since invaders don't need to sleep there's always a chance some bugger will just level up swimming instead of dieing. Mix lava and water to encase your enemies in obsidian.

I wish there was an option like in rimworld where you could just take their stuff and set them free. Go home, you're dunked.

# ? Dec 4, 2019 03:32

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Facebook Aunt posted:

It's all a matter of how elaborate you want to get. Getting magma to the surface is tetchy. Drowning ponds would be easier, but since invaders don't need to sleep there's always a chance some bugger will just level up swimming instead of dieing. Mix lava and water to encase your enemies in obsidian.

I wish there was an option like in rimworld where you could just take their stuff and set them free. Go home, you're dunked.

Personally I've started generating worlds with a minimum of 80 or 90 surface volcanoes.

# ? Dec 4, 2019 03:51

Drakenel: Dec 2, 2008; The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

Deep magma pit it is then. I'm going to have to add more surface construction to funnel them in though. Digging away all those levels of crap without accidentally hitting the cavern areas will be a bitch and a half though.

No thoughts about raiding dark fortresses with ogres and demons oh my?

# ? Dec 4, 2019 03:55

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Drakenel posted:

Deep magma pit it is then. I'm going to have to add more surface construction to funnel them in though. Digging away all those levels of crap without accidentally hitting the cavern areas will be a bitch and a half though.

No thoughts about raiding dark fortresses with ogres and demons oh my?

Are you supposed to do that in adventurer mode or just slap some hammerlords in masterwork steel armor and point them at gobbies?

# ? Dec 4, 2019 04:20

Drakenel: Dec 2, 2008; The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

Not adventure mode, to be clear. Fortress mode. I guess I'll have to up my steel production, since I seem to not find any more iron in the area it'll have to be through trading or melting all these steel anvils

# ? Dec 4, 2019 05:02

Spanish Matlock: Sep 6, 2004; If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

Is the best defense still a one-tile width ledge over a huge pit with wooden training spear traps set on repeat so that the goblins dodge into the void?

# ? Dec 4, 2019 05:23

Drakenel: Dec 2, 2008; The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

Oof and 20 seconds after I load big siege comes in and shows crusher traps are not helpful against ogres. Big mess to clean up after half the military died.

# ? Dec 4, 2019 06:11

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

What kind of crusher traps, bridges?

# ? Dec 4, 2019 06:16

Drakenel: Dec 2, 2008; The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

Synthbuttrange posted:

What kind of crusher traps, bridges?

Yes. I mean, technically they probably could, but ogres are huge, and when I try the bridge just breaks. (Though that may be them destroying it so fast before it can activate. I need to move the levers)

# ? Dec 4, 2019 06:21

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Drakenel posted:

Not adventure mode, to be clear. Fortress mode. I guess I'll have to up my steel production, since I seem to not find any more iron in the area it'll have to be through trading or melting all these steel anvils

Well I mean more are you sending squads out on missions or building forts right rear end-up next to the goblin fortresses? Because that, in fact, would be a badass kind of challenge mode.

# ? Dec 4, 2019 06:52

Drakenel: Dec 2, 2008; The glow is a guide, my friend. Though it falls to you to avert catastrophe, you will never fight alone.

Eh. Squads on missions. Though that'd be interesting if I had the patience.

# ? Dec 4, 2019 07:23

Zereth: Jul 9, 2003

Drakenel posted:

Not adventure mode, to be clear. Fortress mode. I guess I'll have to up my steel production, since I seem to not find any more iron in the area

Feed goblin attacks through a bunch of cage traps, remove the caged goblins' equipment and melt it down, then throw them into a magma pit or something to get rid of them.

Goblinite ore is an inexhaustible supply of iron for nearly any dwarf fortress!

# ? Dec 4, 2019 17:09

GorfZaplen: Jan 20, 2012

Drakenel posted:

Eh. Squads on missions. Though that'd be interesting if I had the patience.

I don't think that you can end a civ in play right now, it might just keep generating fake goblins for you to fight if that's what you're asking

# ? Dec 4, 2019 18:15

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Facebook Aunt posted:

It's all a matter of how elaborate you want to get. Getting magma to the surface is tetchy. Drowning ponds would be easier, but since invaders don't need to sleep there's always a chance some bugger will just level up swimming instead of dieing. Mix lava and water to encase your enemies in obsidian.

I wish there was an option like in rimworld where you could just take their stuff and set them free. Go home, you're dunked.

This is why you put a retractable bridge over your drowning level in your pit. Doesn't matter how good a swimmer they are if they can't get to air (Exception grudgingly made for fish, but if they are in your pit trap then you have done something very silly with the ocean or a river).

I stopped using cage traps because of the time consuming nature of disposing of all the prisoners. And also because, at least at the time, squads and animal herds would play "follow the leader" with their pathing and thus would simply hang around where the leader got themselves cage trapped forever/until retreat was called.

# ? Dec 4, 2019 20:12

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Facebook Aunt posted:

I use a shitload of cage traps. It's easy enough to strip the inmates. No bodies means no bad thoughts.

Eventually I get tired of all the naked goblins and things making GBS threads up my cage/pasture interface and have to get rid of them. I've tried moving them all into a single cage near the edge of the map, hooking that cage to a lever, and just releasing them and hoping they leave, since the siege is over the should leave, but sometimes they just get stuck hanging around. Or throw them into pits, but mass pitting is complicated and even a real deep pit doesn't kill 100%. If there are invaders and animals and monsters they will fight and mostly kill each other off, but then there's corpses to deal with again. You can toss them into a shooting gallery and let the archers train, but make sure the archers can't get in when they run out of arrows and want to bash things with crossbows. Oh, and make sure the shooting gallery is obscured by walls so passing civilians don't freak out.

So one way or another they are still a pain to deal with, but cage traps give you the luxury of time to deal with it (unlike corpses).

Sometimes I catch myself reading Dwarf Fortress stories half way thru and think about how insane all of this must sound for anyone unfamiliar with it. Like in the 90s there would be a NBC news segment quoting this post and how video games are poisoning the youths.

# ? Dec 4, 2019 20:48

Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

Popete posted:

Sometimes I catch myself reading Dwarf Fortress stories half way thru and think about how insane all of this must sound for anyone unfamiliar with it. Like in the 90s there would be a NBC news segment quoting this post and how video games are poisoning the youths.

It's a game the really seems to encourage dispassionate psychopathy as a solution to each and every problem.

# ? Dec 5, 2019 01:57

Excelzior: Jun 24, 2013

between df and crusader kings you can really make some spicy "game quote or crime against humanity" games

# ? Dec 5, 2019 03:04

Leal: Oct 2, 2009

Its a good thing the only games that scaremongers know the existence of is CoD, Fortnite and GTA.

# ? Dec 5, 2019 03:19

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

Yeah none of these games show screaming people getting blown up or shot with realistic-sounding guns etc. "Oh, it's that game with the soothing guitar music" etc.

# ? Dec 5, 2019 03:25

ninjewtsu: Oct 9, 2012

The guitar music is quite soothing tbh

# ? Dec 5, 2019 03:41

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Give me a local news segment of a reporter reading horrifying crimes against dwarfmanity well screencaps of ASCII dwarves gouging the eyes out of goblins and throwing bodies down 50 Z level wells plays in the background.

Popete fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Dec 5, 2019

# ? Dec 5, 2019 03:50

Johnny Joestar: Oct 21, 2010; Don't shoot him?

...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6FXeupOp04

# ? Dec 5, 2019 18:27

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs; Grimey Drawer

Has Tarn ever considered writing a DF album cause I bet he could make some money that way.

# ? Dec 5, 2019 20:35

Kennel: May 1, 2008; BAWWW-UNH!

Johnny Joestar posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6FXeupOp04

Always reminded me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LixNxSGzlGA

# ? Dec 5, 2019 21:05

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Kennel posted:

Always reminded me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LixNxSGzlGA

I think it reminds everyone of that.

# ? Dec 5, 2019 21:24

Freakazoid_: Jul 5, 2013; Buglord

Popete posted:

Has Tarn ever considered writing a DF album cause I bet he could make some money that way.

As long as it's mostly solo stringed pieces. I feel like he hit on something there keeping it relatively simple.

# ? Dec 6, 2019 10:29

Iunnrais: Jul 25, 2007; It's gaelic.

Did I see somewhere in one of his interviews that he was planning to do a couple more pieces for the steam release? Or am I imagining that?

# ? Dec 7, 2019 02:51

Facebook Aunt: Oct 4, 2008; wiggle wiggle

Huh, I just realized that the existence of chicken leather means dwarfs don't consider chicken skin edible. If KFC opened a franchise there it would go broke because everyone would think they were serving meat wrapped in leather.

# ? Dec 11, 2019 02:55

Angry Diplomat: Nov 7, 2009; Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging

Facebook Aunt posted:

Huh, I just realized that the existence of chicken leather means dwarfs don't consider chicken skin edible. If KFC opened a franchise there it would go broke because everyone would think they were serving meat wrapped in leather.

I'm now imagining a dwarf wearing shoes made of KFC skin, and I don't think I've ever hated anything as much as I hate this.

# ? Dec 11, 2019 03:02

Tollymain: Jul 9, 2010; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

delicious

# ? Dec 11, 2019 03:55

Decrepus: May 21, 2008; In the end, his dominion did not touch a single poster.

cave spider riding microgoblins wearing chicken leather armor

# ? Dec 11, 2019 04:04

Tollymain: Jul 9, 2010; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tollymain posted:

delicious

# ? Dec 11, 2019 04:35

Alehkhs: Oct 6, 2010; The Sorrow of Poets

Iunnrais posted:

Did I see somewhere in one of his interviews that he was planning to do a couple more pieces for the steam release? Or am I imagining that?

I don't know about Tran doing more pieces, but there will be more music in the game, from Dabu: https://www.dabuaudio.com/

# ? Dec 11, 2019 05:15

DalaranJ: Apr 15, 2008; Yosuke will now die for you.

This fortress is invincible, if anything goes wrong in this community I�ll eat my shoes. Deep fried preferably.

# ? Dec 11, 2019 16:37

RBA-Wintrow: Nov 4, 2009; Clapping Larry

Would you like a side of pigtail socks with that?

# ? Dec 13, 2019 06:46

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Siljmonster: Dec 16, 2005; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Angry Diplomat posted:

I'm now imagining a dwarf wearing shoes made of KFC skin, and I don't think I've ever hated anything as much as I hate this.

Cooking really should have an overhaul now. Gotta get that crispy chicken tenders for my dwarfs.

# ? Dec 13, 2019 07:27

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