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orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Carth Dookie posted:

Am I missing something or have the tech trees been completely messed with and ships tech levels bear no resemblance to EVE proper anymore?

Are passive shield extenders even a thing anymore?

Is it just me or have a lot of the fitting slots been removed? Particularly mids?

I bought a catalyst and then was extremely sad when I bought a full set of guns for it and realized that only 3 of them fit.

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Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

orange juche posted:

I bought a catalyst and then was extremely sad when I bought a full set of guns for it and realized that only 3 of them fit.

Yeah stuff like this.

Skills seem to imply you get some of it back via "advanced" and "expert" training but I'm not sure if that claws stuff back to make it 1 for 1 with normal EVE

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
prop mods are low slots, 1 mid is all you need, unless you're going for ventures

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Carth Dookie posted:

Yeah stuff like this.

Skills seem to imply you get some of it back via "advanced" and "expert" training but I'm not sure if that claws stuff back to make it 1 for 1 with normal EVE

At destroyer 4 with level 3 weapons skills I'm already over 110 DPS with 150mm rails, I could see training advanced and expert skills and hitting close to 500-600 DPS at the end of it, as long as I trained the weapon skills as well.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

prop mods are low slots, 1 mid is all you need, unless you're going for ventures

Ah I see. ONI shall ride again. No idea how sec status and criminal actions work yet. Stealing the cans didn't seem to have any penalty.

Good advice on stealing PI goods by the way.

orange juche posted:

At destroyer 4 with level 3 weapons skills I'm already over 110 DPS with 150mm rails, I could see training advanced and expert skills and hitting close to 500-600 DPS at the end of it, as long as I trained the weapon skills as well.

Nice.

Also interesting but not necessarily obvious stuff:

Click holding on your ship in space opens a radial menu that includes "self destruct" as an option, as well as orbit distance.

No loving idea how one would actually find a target without dscan though.

Click hold and dragging the "warp to" option allows you to land at range from the warp object.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Carth Dookie posted:

Ah I see. ONI shall ride again. No idea how sec status and criminal actions work yet. Stealing the cans didn't seem to have any penalty.

Good advice on stealing PI goods by the way.


Right now it looks like there is no criminal actions allowed in Highsec at this time, nor a punishment system for stealing cans, there's also no system for disabling safeties on weapons. I'm assuming there will be a way to put this in at some point, but nothing regarding crime and CONCORD or anything else is in at this particular time.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Interesting. I didn't play eve back in the very early days but I imagine this experience is somewhat similar. Very incomplete, raw and new.

Erev
Jun 9, 2013

orange juche posted:

Right now it looks like there is no criminal actions allowed in Highsec at this time, nor a punishment system for stealing cans, there's also no system for disabling safeties on weapons. I'm assuming there will be a way to put this in at some point, but nothing regarding crime and CONCORD or anything else is in at this particular time.

You can attempt to kill people with drones in highsec. 'DED Soldiers' act as a Concord equivalent but don't seem to actually spawn - you just pop.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
ya we could suicide gank with drones and mass produce algoses to do it and it'd be pretty cool

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

ya we could suicide gank with drones and mass produce algoses to do it and it'd be pretty cool

I take it sec status and suicide gank timers aren't a thing yet?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Oh man if we can get algos production going and do some highsec ganks this weekend I think pubbies will have an absolute fit.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

Carth Dookie posted:

I take it sec status and suicide gank timers aren't a thing yet?

nope

also

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/517602710?t=0h59m52s

here is some pvp action of me getting dicked if yall wanna see how the pvp is like

(it involves 2 targets escaping because i didn't run tackle and one of my clients immediately crashing at the start of the fight, being outnumbered 2:1 and being seriously outshipped.)

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



I wonder if I could bump miners in ventures who sit there with a hobgoblin out until they get pissed off and accidentally shoot me with their hobgoblin and get concorded

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

orange juche posted:

I wonder if I could bump miners in ventures who sit there with a hobgoblin out until they get pissed off and accidentally shoot me with their hobgoblin and get concorded

yes, lock them up, they might autolock back and if they misclick - boom

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Ooh. I like that idea. Weekend project.

Inimicul
Oct 14, 2006

Shenanigans!
If the bug reports threads are to be believed, a ton of people are trying to PVP in lowsec and dying to sentry guns. When you do poo poo, you get a 2 minute combat flag but also a mention of being shot for 10 minutes if you go into Empire space. People let the 2 minutes pass and fly to a gate thinking they're safe.

Blarp.

Guess they meant 10 minutes, period.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Depending on how the sentries are activating, that could be normal. The rest sounds odd though.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
it's abnormal, you get shot by sentries by having the timer, not by shooting in their presence

also if you have criminal, you get concorded in highsec when you enter, but you get criminal by shooting a ship, not podding someone so

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Welp. I'm curious how much effort they're going to put into fixing this poo poo. EVE mobile scratches an itch I didn't know I had, but I can't imagine how much time and money it would take to make it work properly when it's far easier to just fart out some garbage and put microtransactions everywhere.

Edit: made it to jita and started looking through the market. Some weird decisions re: slots have been made. Tank appears to be all low slots regardless of shield or armor, same with mwds. Mids appear to be for ewar. Low level frigates have no mids and therefore can't tackle, which makes destroyers look more attractive overall. I can't find any warp scrams which is odd, but the disruptor description, if they are to be believed, stops warping, mwds and jumping. Weird. Also if that's to be believed, I'm not sure if or how MWD/disruptor kiting as per regular EVE would work (or if it's even possible). So weird. Simplified in many ways, but unsure if it actually works out better or worse.

Carth Dookie fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Dec 6, 2019

Erev
Jun 9, 2013

Carth Dookie posted:

Welp. I'm curious how much effort they're going to put into fixing this poo poo. EVE mobile scratches an itch I didn't know I had, but I can't imagine how much time and money it would take to make it work properly when it's far easier to just fart out some garbage and put microtransactions everywhere.

Don't get us wrong. It's actually a decent game so far and it'll be something resembling a good game just as soon as they put in sane trading (not holding my breath on chat getting less restricted). It's worth messing around with - despite being beta right now.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Also LOTS of Chinese in local

WhiteHalo117
Jul 5, 2013

Surprise!!!

Good Dumplings posted:

most of the chuds in gsf are super, super old players that have been around since like Dominion and never got put in a position of responsibility, so most likely they're not coming in here thank god.

Man, good thing I've played since Apocrypha....

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Am I going bonkers or is ammo just not a thing anymore?

Erev
Jun 9, 2013

Carth Dookie posted:

Am I going bonkers or is ammo just not a thing anymore?

No ammo currently. Almost certain to resurface.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Carth Dookie posted:

Also LOTS of Chinese in local

I mean, the game is basically made by China for China, they just happened to let the rest of the world in on it too.

Game's neat enough but it just feels so incomplete. The fittings just feel weird. The UI is fine for about 70% of what you need to do, but other than that I'm just not feeling much pull to play this. The ship "tier" system is just downright strange. And the fact that progress is going to be wiped before launch just makes me not want to invest much time into this.

But as far as testing the concept of mobile EVE goes, I guess I'm interested in seeing how they keep developing this. It's NetEase so I'm not expecting anything good, but maybe they refine the formula to make it work.

Drone fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Dec 6, 2019

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
the best way i can describe this game is that it's "so close to being good."

All I want to do is play this game even though there is nothing to do.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

the best way i can describe this game is that it's "so close to being good."

All I want to do is play this game even though there is nothing to do.

Nailed it

Inimicul
Oct 14, 2006

Shenanigans!

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

the best way i can describe this game is that it's "so close to being good."

All I want to do is play this game even though there is nothing to do.

Heh. Welcome to the OP, goon sir.

Fucking Moron
Jan 9, 2009

I am somewhat enjoying this so far. Keep running into some really mad people in the chat. A lot of angry people with broken english and broken souls playing this game.

Will keep playing.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

What are they angry about?

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE





took a brief goon roam out to chinaspace, didn't incur any losses

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
I never knew I could have so much fun goofing around killing poo poo as new eve guys. Its nice seeing a bunch of old farts playing together again too

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
that's not even a third of the kills we got, poo poo picked up after I made that post and we got so many destroyers and frigates, and many pod kills too (which are arguably more rage inducing, as you can't set your home station yet and they have to travel 30+ jumps back)

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Highlights:
21 million isk Venture II (Ships have 0 value on killmail, so he had 21 million isk in cargo)



We got 37 scalps (I counted the corpses on the D7-ZAC undock) People got so loving mad that they switched into english to call us mean words.

A Concrete Divider
Jan 20, 2012

The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating
Tell them to go back to empire lol

PathAsc
Nov 15, 2011

Hail SS-18 Satan may he cleanse us with nuclear fire

PISS TAPE IS REAL

AOCs Pink Pearl posted:

Tell them to go back to empire lol

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Taiwan #1

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
pretty cool

1001 Arabian dicks fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Dec 8, 2019

Amberskin
Dec 22, 2013

We come in peace! Legit!
Hiya,

I quitted Eve something like five years ago. Is there any reason why I should play again?

Background: when I was playing I was a member of TNT, and the coalition was still living in Deklein. IIRC the infamous casino war happened a few months after that.

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Ape Fist
Feb 23, 2007

Nowadays, you can do anything that you want; anal, oral, fisting, but you need to be wearing gloves, condoms, protection.
Has anyone posted Tiananmen Square in local yet to see what happens. I want to.

Ape Fist fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Dec 7, 2019

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