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Bernstrike posted:What about forums user BENGHAZI 2? benghazi 2 ain't goin away!
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yronic heroism posted:I love how D&D is a soft conspiracy forum now. “Bernie is such a huge threat to capital they’re waiting patiently for him to be elected when he’ll have far more power before they strike.” uh, do you remember a somewhat notable politician named fdr?
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Malleum posted:objective history is a republican smear, i am an incredibly smart poster with worthwhile things to say it's biased, is what I'm saying: pay no attention to it
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Dec 6, 2019 09:25
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Mat Cauthon posted:C'mon Bernie, just clinch this thing, get Castro as VP and bring it on home.
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Dec 6, 2019 09:34
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yronic heroism posted:What is your historical evidence for the incumbent party gaining seats in the midterms? Where’s your evidence for an incumbent party not giving its base what it wants and benefiting from it?
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Dec 6, 2019 09:36
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Majorian posted:Where’s your evidence for an incumbent party not giving its base what it wants and benefiting from it? Most midterm elections in which the incumbent party gives its base what it promised (or tries) and still loses seats.
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Dec 6, 2019 09:38
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yronic heroism posted:Most midterm elections. Most midterm elections show the opposite actually. E:  saddest ninja edit I’ve ever seen, yronic.
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kidkissinger posted:It is kind of lame we're not allowed to make butt jokes about Pete. That last name just demands them. Butt is rear end.
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Dec 6, 2019 09:40
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Majorian posted:Most midterm elections show the opposite actually. Sorry you didn’t like my answer but that’s my answer. Of course you didn’t answer at all how Bernie will defy history and gain midterm seats, but I guess it’s just bad faith Majorian magic.
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yronic heroism posted:Sorry you didn’t like my answer but that’s my answer. Not much evidence to back up your claim, I noticed.
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BarbarianElephant posted:It's....ambiguous isn't it? Just a little bit, hmm? https://twitter.com/BlackSocialists/status/1202672290623840262 end of discussion.
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Dec 6, 2019 09:47
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Majorian posted:Not much evidence to back up your claim, I noticed. Hmm yes, actually the incumbent party pretty much always gains midterm seats and doesn’t have its legislative policies frontloaded in the first two years, how stupid of me. Still waiting on your historical counter examples, but I guess since we’re already on to the “go to the trouble of bothering to delete the second sentence of the quoted post” portion of the Maj-splaining, that won’t happen. But I’ll ask again, what midterm elections prove your point?
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I don't get how Ulysses helps at all in public if you crack it to any page it'd make more sense if you had Meditations but I'd understand why that kind of "drivel" wouldn't appeal to you or move you to perceive things differently because stoicism clearly wouldn't be your strong suit when you fly into a smoldering rage and make chucky faces everytime someone calls you a little munchkin with too big ideas in the nicest way possible and ever since you lost your poo poo with the eraser debacle, I can't help but look at you as a sniveling little poo poo. Considering the temerity or the temperament necessary to thanos divide by zero the american population who are dying in the streets and in jail as a McKinsey Consultant for the Genocide Deparment, I'd kindly ask you to gently caress off as long as you didn't stab me with a butcher knife repeatedly as your entire construct, your purpose of being is dashed permanently as a result of lifelong parental coddling from a place of privilege and psychotic violence is your recourse of a coping mechanism as the rug is pulled underneath from you since you are never used to being said no. When you drop out and have a spectacular meltdown over it since being president is your only life, I will be here for it. Good day Mayo Peter Butti-sieg, you are a racist.
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Dec 6, 2019 09:55
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yronic heroism posted:Hmm yes, actually the incumbent party pretty much always gains midterm seats and doesn’t have its legislative policies frontloaded in the first two years, how stupid of me. Given that that’s not what I claimed, yes, how stupid of you is the correct takeaway from this.
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Dec 6, 2019 10:00
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Majorian posted:Given that that’s not what I claimed, yes, how stupid of you is the correct takeaway from this. So which midterm elections do you imagine prove your point?
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Mat Cauthon posted:I never said he was a leftist, and during my time in the nonprofit world I was actively involved in a coalition campaign to hold him accountable for his dalliances with Wall Street and the shady poo poo that went on around DASP auctions and the like, as well as meeting with his deputies to push HUD to do more on lead poisoning prevention and response in public housing the wake of Flint. I harbor no illusions about who Julian Castro is or where he has been. If anything, I'm surprised that more of his history at HUD hasn't yet been brought up, because it certainly kept him out of the running for VP or a potential Cabinet position with HRC in 2016. It is no doubt a liability that he will have to face down if he remains in the race and gains more prominence. I'd rather not take chance on growth. Besides, he already attacked Sanders during an interview he did early on in the primaries in a way that negates that growth. He can go gently caress himself.
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Dec 6, 2019 10:10
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yronic heroism posted:So which midterm elections do you imagine prove your point? Well, given that my point was that refusing to give one’s base what they want usually turns out very poorly for the incumbent party in midterms, I’d say a lot of them prove my point, 2010 would be an obvious example to which I alluded earlier, but 1994 also fits the bill nicely.
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Majorian posted:Well, given that my point was that refusing to give one’s base what they want usually turns out very poorly for the incumbent party in midterms, I’d say a lot of them prove my point, 2010 would be an obvious example to which I alluded earlier, but 1994 also fits the bill nicely. And my point, which you felt the need to jump on, was this: yronic heroism posted:Bernie, like all presidents, would have at absolute best two years of a compliant House/Senate so pretending who gets to succeed him in 2023 and onward is pointless fan fiction in terms of what would pass Congress. Literally this means there will 2 years of a workable Senate majority, if that... but since you’ve now admitted that the contrary view is, and I quote “not what I claimed” that means you don’t dispute that. I guess we can write your OP off as pointless drive by shitposting. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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mormonpartyboat posted:no, it's not This is some of the dumbest poo poo I've ever read ITT, and that's saying something. Absolutely not worth getting an actually leftist administration if Bernie croaks during his term, better get some soulless centrist ghouls instead. Because that's the alternative, not some hypothetical "better choice" that only exists in your head.
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Dec 6, 2019 10:36
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yronic heroism posted:And my point, which you felt the need to jump on, was this: You seem to have missed my point, which was that we’ve tried your way of not giving the base what they want before the first set of midterms. It does not work. It leads to blowouts like 2010. It is a failed strategy. Your worldview is a failed one. You should abandon it as soon as possible.
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Dec 6, 2019 10:37
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Gyges posted:Dude, you were never voting for Bernie or Warren. Don't try and bullshit us that someone posting Kamala is a Cop, Pete is a Log Cabin Republican, and Obama built the detention centers is what is going to make you vote for evil. Those are all facts, and you're the only one denying reality here. https://chrishayes.org/articles/decision-makers/ quote:Undecided voters aren't as rational as you think. Members of the political class may disparage undecided voters, but we at least tend to impute to them a basic rationality. We're giving them too much credit. I met voters who told me they were voting for Bush, but who named their most important issue as the environment. One man told me he voted for Bush in 2000 because he thought that with Cheney, an oilman, on the ticket, the administration would finally be able to make us independent from foreign oil. A colleague spoke to a voter who had been a big Howard Dean fan, but had switched to supporting Bush after Dean lost the nomination. After half an hour in the man's house, she still couldn't make sense of his decision. Then there was the woman who called our office a few weeks before the election to tell us that though she had signed up to volunteer for Kerry she had now decided to back Bush. Why? Because the president supported stem cell research. The office became quiet as we all stopped what we were doing to listen to one of our fellow organizers try, nobly, to disabuse her of this notion. Despite having the facts on her side, the organizer didn't have much luck.
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Bernstrike posted:What about forums user BENGHAZI 2? Id do it but I'm not legally able to be VP until 2028 Bernie make me your secstate
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Dec 6, 2019 11:21
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Bernie: I am here today to announce my gay trans anarchist vice president, dickeye The heads of a million olds melt simultaneously
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Dec 6, 2019 11:23
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I honestly really just want to see donut twitter have their faces slough off and turn into Doom monsters before our eyes with the announcement of Nina Turner as running mate.
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Dec 6, 2019 12:04
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The VP slot is completely meaningless during the election, it doesn't get you any extra votes or turnout. I think the last candidate that managed to actually flip a state was probably Quayle, and lol it's Dan Quayle
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Dec 6, 2019 13:08
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yronic heroism posted:I love how D&D is a soft conspiracy forum now. “Bernie is such a huge threat to capital they’re waiting patiently for him to be elected when he’ll have far more power before they strike.”  Could it happen here?
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Dec 6, 2019 13:13
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Google is hiding embarrassing Buttigieg facts. https://twitter.com/LLW902/status/1202902459850645504?s=20
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Dec 6, 2019 13:22
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Gripweed posted:Google is hiding embarrassing Buttigieg facts. He is a wee little chap. Kinda surprised that Bernie is 6 foot though
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Dec 6, 2019 13:33
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Buttigeig would be the shortest president since Madison. And I don't need to tell you guys, Madison let the British burn the White House to the ground. Never again.
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Dec 6, 2019 13:36
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Failed Imagineer posted:He is a wee little chap. Kinda surprised that Bernie is 6 foot though he has an old man stoop
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I want a presidential combine. Finally get Biden doing these push-ups he won't shut the gently caress up about.
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Dec 6, 2019 13:40
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But more importantly, Bernie Sanders dropped another banger https://twitter.com/CaraKorte/status/1202920624852615168?s=20
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Dec 6, 2019 13:41
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Gripweed posted:But more importantly, Bernie Sanders dropped another banger I love that Corbyn and Sanders' manifestos are feeding into each other. If by some miracle both of these lads get into office then I have some genuine hope that the world will not be irretrievably hosed
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Dec 6, 2019 13:48
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I love this man.
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Dec 6, 2019 13:50
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Gripweed posted:But more importantly, Bernie Sanders dropped another banger Genuinely this is the best way to convince people the govt should run essential services. People think they like their insurance. Nobody likes their cable company
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Dec 6, 2019 14:06
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Failed Imagineer posted:I love that Corbyn and Sanders' manifestos are feeding into each other. If by some miracle both of these lads get into office then I have some genuine hope that the world will not be irretrievably hosed That would be glorious. It would be like mirror universe Reagan & Thatcher.
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Dec 6, 2019 14:31
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FlamingLiberal posted:He's the most boring man on Earth Guilty pleasure food: veggies  So relatable
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Genuinely this is the best way to convince people the govt should run essential services. People think they like their insurance. Nobody likes their cable company We used to have this poo poo back in the dial up days on the municipal level. The 1996 Telecommunications Act killed it iirc. 25 states currently have laws on the books preventing municipal broadband, because
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Oracle posted:We used to have this poo poo back in the dial up days on the municipal level. The 1996 Telecommunications Act killed it iirc. Yeah gently caress this nonsense, how anyone can look at these anti-muni internet laws and say "free market capitalism" is beyond me.
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Majorian posted:You seem to have missed my point, which was that we’ve tried your way of not giving the base what they want before the first set of midterms. It does not work. It leads to blowouts like 2010. It is a failed strategy. Your worldview is a failed one. You should abandon it as soon as possible. “lol you rube, I wasn’t responding to your post when I quoted it. My real point was this.”
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