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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Remember this creepy Duracell commercial?

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Yeah that's what that concept was missing, a roofie joke!

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Neito posted:

A lot of things lasted way longer than you think they did.
Hell, isn't Brazil still producing their equivalent of the Genesis??

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i would probably buy a new PS2, tbh

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches





From the thumbnail I thought the energizer bunny had somehow gotten into this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSdR4gFumps










I just gave every 30-something canadian itt a sense memory overload

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

axolotl farmer posted:

The Atari 2600 had an impressive life span. Launched in 1977, with the last official games coming out in 1992.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=913xrM9FYpI
I had a 2600 from a friend around 1989-1990 with about 15 games, which ballooned into about 40 over the next several years of garage sale hopping. I really would have rather had an NES, but when you could get a new game at any moment for under a buck--and who knows, this one might be interesting for more than a minute--well, you got excited about the stuff you could potentially get.

e: I also had a Game Boy, but didn't get new games nearly often enough (what kid did back then). When I would visit Toys R Us and stare longingly at the Game Boy games, right across from that, they still sold dozens of 2600 games, the system, and accessories. This being Toys R Us, they were either behind glass or just a bunch of tags that you'd take to the weird employee-cage they had in the back, chock full of video games, and one guy in the darkness.

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


RandomFerret posted:


I just gave every 30-something canadian itt a sense memory overload

I'm not canadian and I totally remember that.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
FIFTY BUCKS?

I wish I could reap some sort of reward in life from the hundreds of times "under fifty bucks!" "FIFTY BUCKS?!" went through my head in later years

Even as a young child when that commercial aired, one who even owned an Atari computer and liked the 2600, I remember thinking "wow, nobody still wants a 2600 guys, c'mon"

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Dr. Quarex posted:

FIFTY BUCKS?

I wish I could reap some sort of reward in life from the hundreds of times "under fifty bucks!" "FIFTY BUCKS?!" went through my head in later years

Even as a young child when that commercial aired, one who even owned an Atari computer and liked the 2600, I remember thinking "wow, nobody still wants a 2600 guys, c'mon"

now isn't that nice? That commercial is as much for clueless parents as it is for lower income kids.

yeah, I have distinct memories of listening to New Jack on the radio, and playing Dark Cavern on a black and white TV. It wasn't the worst thing in the world, but it was no dang Super Mario Bros.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Speaking of video game commercials from the 80s with really bad rap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGZv30buf-U

Hey nerds, play Zelda and the cool kids will like you and want to hang out with you.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Powered Descent posted:

Speaking of video game commercials from the 80s with really bad rap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGZv30buf-U

Hey nerds, play Zelda and the cool kids will like you and want to hang out with you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeL9cJ5khHU


The only decent video game rap commercial because they finally smartened up and hired people who weren't white nerds

Oh and then there's the Wu Tang Super Game Boy commercial


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raif51h8AyM

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeL9cJ5khHU


The only decent video game rap commercial because they finally smartened up and hired people who weren't white nerds

Oh and then there's the Wu Tang Super Game Boy commercial


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raif51h8AyM
I think it fits since Link's Awakening was the weird game of the series, at least until that one about driving trains came out.

Japan had this weird one for Mother.



Battery chat. My first 'console' was a Gameboy Pocket. The portability was somewhat defeated because my parents wouldn't let me have batteries very often, so I had to sit next to an outlet. Years later I would find out about how bad the Gamegear, Lynx, and Sega Nomad ate batteries.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Power efficiency and battery tech sure has come a long way. I wonder how long a GameBoy would run with current battery tech filling the 4 AA slots, equivalent LCD screen and chip set made to modern standards.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Here's one that crawled out of my brain.
Back around 1999 a company called Pulse3D had a plugin that allowed fully textured and animated 3D content. A major step up from stuff like VRML.

I seem to recall a remake of Kung Fu the TV in this format.

There was some amazingly inane stuff like virtual Bill Clinton and Jay Leno.

https://lostmediawiki.com/Pulse_3D_(lost_3D_web_plugin_content;_1999-2001)

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

oohhboy posted:

Power efficiency and battery tech sure has come a long way. I wonder how long a GameBoy would run with current battery tech filling the 4 AA slots, equivalent LCD screen and chip set made to modern standards.

Why just fill the battery slots?

If we’re allowed to change PCBs, take advantage of miniaturisation and pack it full of enough cells to make the bomb squad nervous. :getin:

Anyway, the Game Boy Color already managed thirty‐two hours in GB mode, with only two AAs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTKXmQEH5UI

Give it twice as much battery volume and fill it with lithium cells and that’s a hundred and twenty‐eight hours.

Now to swap hardware.

Z80s are still produced today, but I think the better approach is to use a low‐power microprocessor of modern design, even with emulation overhead. It will be asleep the majority of the time, waking every sixtieth of a second to read input and push the next frame. This makes more capable chips more efficient, to a point.

Eight‐bit microcontrollers can do twenty‐five microamps per megahertz when not sleeping. Even if the processor needs to to run flat‐out at twenty megahertz, that’s under one milliwatt. For comparison, the GBC used about sixty milliwatts.

Displays are down to less than a milliwatt themselves.

The thirty‐year‐old ROM chips in the original carts are going to become a relatively significant drain, but I don’t know exactly how much

Driving the speaker will also be significant. The iPod’s amplifier was rated at sixty milliwatts, the entire drain of the GBC. Obviously it’s rarely using that much power continuously, but still.

I don’t know if making the user put in a crystal earpiece is in the spirit of the question, but it would be effective.



In conclusion, my guess is that sixty days of continuous runtime might be possible.

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Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
If David Pleasance is to be believed, Commodore were still making decent money off the C64 in Eastern Europe.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Bargearse posted:

If David Pleasance is to be believed, Commodore were still making decent money off the C64 in Eastern Europe.

In the early 90s Commodore UK and Commodore Europe were still making good money selling the low-end Amigas (500/600/1200) as games machines, and the C64 was still trickling out at a decent rate.

Meanwhile Commodore US were pissing away millions chasing the business market that had already settled on the IBM PC, and designing an endless series of new machines nobody wanted and whose only competitors were other Commodore machines.

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Clockwork Sputnik
Nov 6, 2004

24 Hour Party Monster

Sweevo posted:

In the early 90s Commodore UK and Commodore Europe were still making good money selling the low-end Amigas (500/600/1200) as games machines, and the C64 was still tricking out at a decent rate.

Meanwhile Commodore US were pissing away millions chasing the business market that had already settled on the IBM PC, and designing an endless series of new machines nobody wanted and whose only competitors were other Commodore machines.

Isn't that counting when the c64 was switchable in the c128 though? Iirc toward the end, you could not get a standalone c64. Maybe that was just the US tho.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Yeah, just the US. Nobody in Europe gave a poo poo about the C128. It was barely even sold here. The C64 was still being sold in mail-order catalogues well into the early 90s, usually as some kind of package where you'd get the C64, a tape deck, joystick, and a bunch of games for an ever decreasing price - probably trying to clear out unsold stock.

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

The Commodore brand was still relatively popular in Australia like in the UK/Europe. Sadly it seems most of the decisions were being made in the US, where Commodore was fading out of people's views after the C64.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
I may have posted about this in this very thread before, but I will never forget being in both Thailand and South Korea around 1990, and in both countries finding bookstore shelves reliably stocking a half-dozen English-language Commodore/Amiga/Atari magazines I had never heard of, making me wonder what the hell alternate universe I had walked into where any of those systems were not basically dead and buried already. The answer of course was "leaving your U.S. bubble and feeling like it is another universe, you privileged jerk child"

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It was probably down to countries like that being outside of the US and Japan where all the new poo poo was happening, and they aren't as affluent. So they are dealing with whatever scraps are left over of the old stuff and making do.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Also consuming in most places outside of the US back then wasn't as fad-centered as the US. Yet.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Cojawfee posted:

It was probably down to countries like that being outside of the US and Japan where all the new poo poo was happening, and they aren't as affluent. So they are dealing with whatever scraps are left over of the old stuff and making do.

I remember the first time, I, as an American, got to play around with a Commodore anything. Maybe '97, while visiting family in Germany. All three of my cousins had some kind of Commodore, they adored them. Coming from Apple IIe's, so did I. Hours of poop-socking late into the night, "Hey, check this out!", "I learned to make my own simple game, try it!", "Lookit all the colors!". They had tons of UK Commodore magazines and books, too. That really accelerated their English-language skills.

Oddly, only the youngest stuck with computers. She's studying to design and install industrial robots, apprentice-ship and all. She's also the closest to finishing any kind of degree, of the three (not that I can say anything). Her dissertation is due in March, she's got this. Lol. Owned by 'lil sis, repeatedly, in front of your whole family.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Americans never understand how in relatively isolated European places the computers like the C64 and the Amiga quickly gathered an enthusiast scene which made both games AND demos that no-one outside Europe ever really got. The demoscene especially was and is something else:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-9K22jgp-8

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
No, we precisely 58 American Demosceners totally knew. I just did not get into that until right after returning from South Korea and my new computer came with TRAKBLASTER PRO installed and even though it barely worked and played the .MODs all wrong, I was still immediately and permanently hooked. Then I was like "hey I should get an Amiga! Oh, this seems impossible in Illinois in 1992"

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


Certainly a step up from their 60s work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzc6xksct44

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
It takes a lot to have a retro hairstyle so unusual and bad that I want to know more about it

Edit: Also I kind of actually like this

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Went through my old computer fleet today to see if things are working or not. Some of them had not been switched on for about 4 months so wanted to see what was going to play up:

- The C128 still has some keyboard issues, I think relating to a dodgy CIA chip. Gave the whole keyboard a clean down with contact cleaner, same with the socketed chips. VIC II chip isn't entirely happy either, randomly changing colour.

- The Amiga A1200 didn't want to boot properly (I hadn't used it for about three months). Removing the GVP accelerator from it got it working again. Giving both the expansion slot and connector on the GVP a clean down with contact cleaner seem to fix the issue.

- The Atari 1040STE ran with no issues at all. Since replacing the PSU in it, the STE has been a rock solid machine.

- Same with the C64, no issues.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

You Am I posted:

- The Amiga A1200 didn't want to boot properly (I hadn't used it for about three months). Removing the GVP accelerator from it got it working again. Giving both the expansion slot and connector on the GVP a clean down with contact cleaner seem to fix the issue.

I went to fire mine up again this weekend and ran into the exact same issue with my DKB accelerator.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Bargearse posted:

I went to fire mine up again this weekend and ran into the exact same issue with my DKB accelerator.

Yeah, grumpy old computers :)

I'm looking at taking the A1200 to next weekend's meet, since I have never ran that at "full power" at the meet. They are also doing a swap meet as well, so might get rid of an A1200 memory/network expansion card that I brought brand new and never used.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
I know I say this every month but I’ll be there if I can, it’s been way too long.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Dr. Quarex posted:

It takes a lot to have a retro hairstyle so unusual and bad that I want to know more about it

Edit: Also I kind of actually like this

Bad news: someone slammed a door and his hair quiche collapsed:

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
Just snagged a bunch of old Apple II gear from a primary school, looks like a IIe, a IIc, a IIgs, composite monitor, keyboard, some 5.25" floppy drives and a few miscellaneous bits and pieces. Going to go through it next weekend and see what works.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Jerry Cotton posted:

Didn't need to be approved by the electrical things authority.

Old pong machines generally had the option of running from a DC adapter though. The more likely explanation is that many homes in the 1970s still had really old wiring, very few outlets per room and power strips weren't ubiquitous at that point, so the batteries made sense. They also all used C batteries for some reason. I don't think I've seen anything that used C batteries in decades.

Sweevo posted:

It's the same circuitry that would have been in the power brick. It doesn't really matter where you put it.

The NES still needed a brick-sized adapter for the AC stepdown transformer. The original Famicom that it was based on used a regular DC power supply, so they intentionally added extra components and made it weird for some reason :iiam:.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Bargearse posted:

Just snagged a bunch of old Apple II gear from a primary school, looks like a IIe, a IIc, a IIgs, composite monitor, keyboard, some 5.25" floppy drives and a few miscellaneous bits and pieces. Going to go through it next weekend and see what works.

Holy poo poo nice haul there!

stevewm
May 10, 2005

Bargearse posted:

Just snagged a bunch of old Apple II gear from a primary school, looks like a IIe, a IIc, a IIgs, composite monitor, keyboard, some 5.25" floppy drives and a few miscellaneous bits and pieces. Going to go through it next weekend and see what works.

I have two IIc's myself that I have been messing with.

If you want a easy way to transfer software, you'll want a serial cable and ADTPro. (https://adtpro.com/) ADTPro is a piece of software to transfer disk images to/from Apple II machines. It can load/boot over serial or audio (if your Apple II is so equipped), so you can get started without needing a copy already on floppy.

I have been experimenting with adding a bluetooth serial module to make loading software via ADTPro wireless.

I spent a worrying amount of time playing Number Munchers last weekend on it.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
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Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
holy poo poo, a Suburban Commando game

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

I have a C64 compilation set of knock off games where every one of the "box art" images is someone's lovely drawings that a high schooler would draw

By the way, I've just brought an Atari 800XL with accessories and games :ohdear:

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