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Lamuella posted:And now I'm remembering a mid 90s WCW promo where Jim Duggan called Hogan "a great technical wrestler", shattering kayfabe into a trillion pieces.
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TheKingslayer posted:*Sports Entertainer Not to be confused with a performance fighter like Roman Reigns
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Von Linus posted:Unless he doesn't want the pressure or something. It's 100% this. He's doing a bang-up job scouting talent for the women's division and having fun little hardcore one-offs. Let the artist work, if he wants to hold the belt for awhile in a year or two I'm sure they'll be happy to let him.
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jesus WEP posted:I’m not one to doubt a man as intelligent as Jim Duggan Hehehehe, HAHAHAHA!
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:It's 100% this. He's doing a bang-up job scouting talent for the women's division and having fun little hardcore one-offs. Let the artist work, if he wants to hold the belt for awhile in a year or two I'm sure they'll be happy to let him. Yeah, I think he said that being IWGP champ was super stressful I think him being a transition champ is a good idea though
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Yeah, I think he said that being IWGP champ was super stressful On the other hand, he's currently AAA Megachampion, is that not stressful as well?
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Von Linus posted:Kane and Inferno matches? Win: MVP Losses: Undertaker, Undertaker, HHH He is undefeated in Buried Alive Matches Dell_Zincht posted:Undertaker and Buried Alive matches, too Wins: vs. Mankind, Rock & Sock Connection (w. Kane) Losses: Steve Austin, Kane, Vince McMahon (who won with interference from Kane) Which is to say both men are better with their weakest matches than Seth is with Twitter.
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Lamuella posted:On the other hand, he's currently AAA Megachampion, is that not stressful as well? it only gets defended once every two or three months, so, no, not really?
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Edge & Christian posted:Undertaker is 2-3 in Buried Alive matches: I don't remember this at all. The Rock actually got buried alive at the end?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I don't remember this at all. The Rock actually got buried alive at the end? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUBu9Dl-x1A It was an incredibly Attitude Era finish, and for the tag team championships. For anyone who doesn't want to watch the whole match, eventually Undertaker and Rock brawl backstage and Mankind beats up Big Show with a shovel and is winning the match. But backstage, Triple H attacks the Rock and lays him out, allowing Undertaker and Big Show to double team Mankind out by the dirt hole. But then Kane attacks Triple H to save the Rock, but then Chyna attacks Kane. Kane chases Chyna off. Undertaker and Big Show have Mankind beat and Big Show starts filling the hole while Undertaker holds off the Rock. But before Big Show can finish burying Mankind, Triple H runs out, clocks Big Show with his sledgehammer and... finishes burying Mankind. Undertaker and Big Show are now the tag team champions, but Undertaker and the Rock have brawled out into the ether where Kane and Chyna are, so all that's left is Triple H standing tall and posing over a buried Mankind and an unconscious Big Show. An ambulance arrives to recover Mankind's body from the grave, but before it can save him Steve Austin runs in and starts beating up Triple H, throwing him into the grave on top of Mankind and eventually tossing HHH into the ambulance, driving it out into the parking lot, and then driving a semi-truck repeatedly into the side of the ambulance containing Triple H in an attempt to murder him, I guess? So no, the Rock didn't ever set foot in the grave.
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I think I remember that match now, even though it's confusing as hell reading a summary of it. And yeah, I knew they'd ever let the Rock actually get buried. Thank you.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I think I remember that match now, even though it's confusing as hell reading a summary of it. And yeah, I knew they'd ever let the Rock actually get buried. Thank you. And then Austin's return feud against Rikishi and eventually Triple H, where the scoundrels who would attack a man unprovoked with a car are justifiably killed by Austin, including him dropping Triple H off of a forklift while trapped inside a car. And then a year after that, Hollywood Hogan and the NWO do almost exactly the same thing Austin did, but to the Rock, in a last-ditch effort to get fans to boo Hogan in 2002. Vehicular manslaughter is a land of contrasts.
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Edge & Christian posted:Vehicular manslaughter is a land of contrasts. That's why I always laugh when people point out Hogan throwing Giant off a roof as being so over-the-top with "Hogan tried to murder him!" when there was a period of time in WWF where everyone was trying to kill everyone else with motor vehicles.
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Edge & Christian posted:It was in the earliest days of Smackdown and is actually posted in full by WWE: The epitome of glorious clusterfuck right there.
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Lamuella posted:On the other hand, he's currently AAA Megachampion, is that not stressful as well? AAA doesn't really value the world heavyweight title the way other companies do. It gets defended maybe 5-6 times a year, and it's not a focus from a marketing perspective
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Fenix won it in August 2018 by winning a four way match (Jeff Jarrett was champion coming in; match also had Brian Cage and Rich Swann in it) and they made a big thing about how he was going to be a fighting champion and that AAA were going to build it up as a big title. His first defence was in September 2018, not in AAA but for GALLI, a Lucha company based in Chicago where Fenix beat Aeroboy in a title for title match to also win the GALLI title. His second defence, and first in AAA, was in August 2019 when he beat Laredo Kid, Taurus and Puma King in a four way match. He then lost it to Kenny Omega in October 2019; with Kenny already defending it as many times in two months than Fenix did in a whole year. Titles really don't matter that much in Lucha - this title history isn't exactly unheard of; just look at some of the approximately 10,000 titles that CMLL has. You'll see them main eventing smaller shows with them but the big thing is always Mask or Hair matches and that's what the build is to; not to big World Title matches.
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Even with all that in mind, was there an angle built around him having to defend his title in a 4-way?
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IceAgeComing posted:Fenix won it in August 2018 by winning a four way match (Jeff Jarrett was champion coming in; match also had Brian Cage and Rich Swann in it) and they made a big thing about how he was going to be a fighting champion and that AAA were going to build it up as a big title. The AAA Mega Linear Title History is a thing of beauty. https://www.voicesofwrestling.com/2015/11/09/aaa-linear-mega-heavyweight-championship-or-toru-yano-messes-everything-up/
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What're the best video packages produced in wrestling, with major bonus points for spot-on music selection? There are two feud videos that come to mind for me: - Stone Cold vs. The Rock - Wrestlemania XVII - Limp Bizkit, "My Way" - Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker - Wrestlemania XXVI - Placebo, "Running Up That Hill" And then there are another two that are less about the particular match and more about telling the wrestler's story that come to mind, too: - The Miz - Wrestlemania XXVII - Nas, "Hate Me Now" - Daniel Bryan - Wrestlemania XXX - Imagine Dragons, "Monster" Any more great ones come to mind in either of those genres?
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surf rock posted:What're the best video packages produced in wrestling, with major bonus points for spot-on music selection? Lmao you can watch as their long term booking gets slowly worse and worse
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I immediately thought of CM Punk in the MitB build. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idJi_cV4Wmw I can't find the original version though, which has one subtle but neat difference: CM Punk: In anybody else's hands this is a microphone * low in the background you can hear IF YA SMELLLL while screen flashes something like JUST LIKE DWAYNE This version has the still effective but not as cool YOU WILL LISTEN and no sound clip
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The Daniel Bryan video package was ruined by the loving terrible song they pick for it.
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Randaconda posted:The Daniel Bryan video package was ruined by the loving terrible song they pick for it. 
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one of the most famous wrestling promo packages and definitely the most famous wrestlemania promo package of all time featured a Limp Bizkit song
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the most famous man alive freaking sucks rear end
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Alaois posted:one of the most famous wrestling promo packages and definitely the most famous wrestlemania promo package of all time featured a Limp Bizkit song That song was way loving better than anything Imagine Dragons has ever excreted
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Garbage music is often good music for wrestling
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Randaconda posted:That song was way loving better than anything Imagine Dragons has ever excreted imagine dragons freakin sucks but limp bizkit's attempt at a deftones song is not much of an improvement
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Alaois posted:imagine dragons freakin sucks but limp bizkit's attempt at a deftones song is not much of an improvement Deftones are also garbage, so it's a wash 
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Randaconda posted:Deftones are also garbage, so it's a wash You've gone too far now
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i don't like deftones but do you mean this??? the majority of bands around older than them are all just senior citizens scamming people for incredibly overpriced tickets out of nostalgia
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Cavauro posted:i don't like deftones but do you mean this??? the majority of bands around older than them are all just senior citizens scamming people for incredibly overpriced tickets out of nostalgia No, I meant I'm old 
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Right, it's just that you have to be at least 69!!!!
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We're gonna sit here and poo poo on Imagine Dragons when Limp Bizkit is *right there*?
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Best band Best wrestler Best hype vid https://youtu.be/1g0W9GhO--k
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