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Angepain posted:He is getting ectoplasm all over the ceremonial mace The last speaker called that "chuntering from a sedentary position". Edit: The utopian novel 1984 was written by the second-best Blair.
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I have a pack of these kicking around from Boots, is that enough Vitamin D? I have no idea how anything related to medication or supplements works.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I have a pack of these kicking around from Boots, is that enough Vitamin D? I have no idea how anything related to medication or supplements works. Yeah one of those a day is fine. There are some physicians on the fringe that believe you should take way more, but they're probably wrong
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Hoping he's just playing to the crowd given MumsNet's TERF hell pit status. Still disappointing.
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floofyscorp posted:'People of colour' isn't nearly racist enough of a phrase for Johnson to be familiar with, let alone use. It's really interesting, because if it was colour, it tracks conpletely with tory hostile environment policy. If it's talent it makes no goddamn sense, because what, he wants to limit and control the number of talented people choosing to join the UK? The whole sentence changes meaning over that one word.
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 0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a poo poo-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.
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domhal posted:
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Unless I'm missing something I don't know that he's recommitting to anything? He's saying that he gets people have different ideas of what "single sex spaces" mean and that self ID would make some of them unhappy but he's not gonna pick a side because he doesn't know enough about it and wants to hear more? If they end up doing a consulatation that includes a lot of trans people I would hope they'd come to a good decision? It really seems like a problem of terfs making themselves out to be respectable and seeming sincere until you get into the meat of it, and absolutely something that I'd hope a party like labour would resolve with bottom up consultations?
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He seems kinda unprepared for the question. I wonder if regular people who aren't incredibly online are remotely aware of Mumsnet's status as The National Center For Rampant TERFery or if they still think it's just a twee place for mums to chat about mum stuff. still somebody should have warned john about it before he went on, the discussion turning to trans chat was entirely predictable to anyone paying the slightest attention
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Unless you're very online or already versed in the ways of terf bullshit I think a lot of people are just not keen on telling what looks like a bunch of concerned women to gently caress off. It's probably particularly hard for politicians who've spent a lot of time being on the side of people making very similar noises and are now having to try to differentiate between them and just a different kind of bigot.
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Angepain posted:mostly just want to know how you got the highly desirable 420-69 prefix for your very real phone number. is there someone at BT i can contact about this or Given it's not prefixed with a 0 it's obviously a local* number. However at 9 digits it's also far too long for a local number (longest are 8 digits for London 020 numbers**), and 04 has never been assigned as a prefix for POTS service***. I'm beginning to think that Braggart is actually lying about this. I mean I hate modern callout culture but I will not allow the UK telecomms market to be so egregiously misrepresented. * Technically any number that can be dialled from your landline phone without a 0 or 1 prefix is a "local" number, dating back to the early days of direct-dialled numbers where the numbers were split into an area code representing the exchange and 4-6 digits representing the line - the number of digits representing the line was always a bit variable. They abandoned this in London really early and it was likewise abandoned for other major cities at the time of the 01x1 renumbering of the 90s. However it *does* still work at many exchanges where certain numbers are hardcoded in for legacy reasons - 123 for the speaking clock, for example, is always a local call (the speaking clock is still serviced by local equipment at the exchange), and it may be possible to dial, say, 020 7230 123 (yes, that's one digit short) to get the speaking clock at Whitehall exchange. I use Whitehall as an example because one of the other hardcoded numbers is 1212, which will (depending on your area code) connect you to you local police station control room or the 999 centre - this is because (old) Scotland Yard's original phone number was Whitehall 1212 (it still is, but now it's 020 7230 1212). This number was famous enough from between-wars plays and movies that the Met asked the GPO to give all their stations the phone number 1212 - even to this day most police stations still have the number, except it will only be in one of the 10+ area codes most London exchanges service. if you're *really* loving nerdy you can work out which was the first area code assigned to the exchange by looking up the local cop shop number, but the more-or-less 1:1 mapping of exchanges to police stations (which is not coincidental, and was a major part of the air-raid and civil defence warnings sytem from the 1930s to the 90s) has faded away as police stations close. Alas in many cases these old tricks are now going away as BT are finally sweeping away a lot of all this old legacy code, for very good reasons - I know we've got a BT-employed semi-lurker ITT so if they'd like to comment on how much any of this still applies I promise not to point at them and shout "NATIONALISED". ** people who write London numbers as 020* rather than 020 * are olds clinging to 90s snobbery, especially as BT broke the geographic separation between 071 and 081 almost immediately after introducing it, often under heavy lobbying from those self-same snobs. *** it was originally reserved for all sorts of thrilling futuristic things like fax and data numbers, then as it turned out everyone was just plugging them into normal geographic lines it got quietly dropped and now nobody knows what to do with it. It *might* be revived for mobile numbers if/when 07 gets tapped out, but that's a hundred million numbers so unless we all start getting burners this is going to take a while. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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Braggart posted:The last speaker called that "chuntering from a sedentary position". Glad to see Lionel getting the recognition he deserves.
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OwlFancier posted:Unless I'm missing something I don't know that he's recommitting to anything? He's saying that he gets people have different ideas of what "single sex spaces" mean and that self ID would make some of them unhappy but he's not gonna pick a side because he doesn't know enough about it and wants to hear more? If they end up doing a consulatation that includes a lot of trans people I would hope they'd come to a good decision? Yeah, if he fully agreed with the TERFs I don't think he would have included the "what some have described as abuse" qualifier, and just said he too was concerned about abuse. My read on it is that he doesn't agree with them but doesn't want to explicitly spell that out. Instead it's left ambigious for discussion at a later date.
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https://twitter.com/scattermoon/status/1202948138601996288 Like, the fact they are basically going to TERF HQ and having a Pow wow is not making me happy. Still voting labor obviously but this is kinda dissapointing.
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ThomasPaine posted:Chapo is good No
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quote:Boris Johnson has cancelled a visit to Rochester at the last minute, the Press Association reports. He was due to give a stump speech to Tory supporters near the Ye Arrow pub. A small number of protesters also arrived holding signs which read “Tories out”, “Austerity killed over 130,000, the blood is on your hands” and “No to racism, no to Boris Johnson”. A decision was taken to cancel the visit and the Tories claimed it was because of “logistical reasons”.  lmao
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goddamnedtwisto posted:if you're *really* loving nerdy don't worry your position will remain unchallenged 
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xtothez posted:Yeah, if he fully agreed with the TERFs I don't think he would have included the "what some have described as abuse" qualifier, and just said he too was concerned about abuse. I'm not sure he knows either way tbh. I'm frankly surprised he was even able to give that answer. I don't think any of the top brass really know enough about it and I just hope the push is deferred to the membership in that regard because they're the only ones I think would be sufficiently clued in and radical.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:don't worry your position will remain unchallenged I know who I am and I'm happy with it.
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domhal posted:
Hang on let me find UKMT.jpg again  Hah, someone avatar'd you already.
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Angepain posted:He seems kinda unprepared for the question. I wonder if regular people who aren't incredibly online are remotely aware of Mumsnet's status as The National Center For Rampant TERFery or if they still think it's just a twee place for mums to chat about mum stuff. still somebody should have warned john about it before he went on, the discussion turning to trans chat was entirely predictable to anyone paying the slightest attention I suspect this is the case with the comments Laura P made too. Not that either of them are transphobic, but that they genuinely don't understand what a clusterfuck the whole TERF situation is, and are just saying things that they think 'sound fair and reasonable' to them, without realising that they are supporting TERF talking points that sound fine to the average person, but are discriminatory in practice Of course, I could be entirely wrong - am only basing it on the one comment I have seen from each of them so far, and the fact that they are good eggs on almost everything else.
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Speaking of the Dyson airblade, I just came across one of the Mitsubishi ones and it has a lip and drainage hole, so the Dyson one really is the shittest version possible.
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Pochoclo posted:Getting really tired of people throwing the “political correctness gone mad” argument at me whenever I try to defend a minority
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Given it's not prefixed with a 0 it's obviously a local* number. However at 9 digits it's also far too long for a local number (longest are 8 digits for London 020 numbers**), and 04 has never been assigned as a prefix for POTS service***. The area code is 01269 of course. Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Speaking of the Dyson airblade, I just came across one of the Mitsubishi ones and it has a lip and drainage hole, so the Dyson one really is the shittest version possible.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Given it's not prefixed with a 0 it's obviously a local* number. However at 9 digits it's also far too long for a local number (longest are 8 digits for London 020 numbers**), and 04 has never been assigned as a prefix for POTS service***. Yep, I didn't bother to do any research into how the number should look, because I thought it would be more interesting to let this happen  Twisto does a good effortpost 
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Tigey posted:I suspect this is the case with the comments Laura P made too. Not that either of them are transphobic, but that they genuinely don't understand what a clusterfuck the whole TERF situation is, and are just saying things that they think 'sound fair and reasonable' to them, without realising that they are supporting TERF talking points that sound fine to the average person, but are discriminatory in practice Someone (from UKMT?) that knows this needs to write to the party and explain this stuff. They most likely have no idea. The mumsnet and vulnerable "real women" thing is the worst/most insidious bit because if you don't know better it sounds completely reasonable.
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RockyB posted:He's always there, lurking in the background. Wailing his dire lament. A spectre is haunting Europe; the spectre of Ed.
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Tesseraction posted:
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Bundy posted:Everything Dyson makes is plastic poo poo that is awesome for approx 0.2s of initial use before capitalist built in obsolescence comes down like a massive plastic anvil, gently caress him Numatic Henry for life! (Or at least 10-15 years)
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OwlFancier posted:I'm not sure he knows either way tbh. I'm frankly surprised he was even able to give that answer. I don't think any of the top brass really know enough about it and I just hope the push is deferred to the membership in that regard because they're the only ones I think would be sufficiently clued in and radical. The top brass knowing little about it is pretty dangerous in itself, in that the terf set has a lot of experience putting their bigotry into terms that sound plausible to someone that is not paying that much attention. If they are genuinely poorly informed and not just trying to please the bigot demographic then I hope someone who is informed can find an opportunity to have a long chat with them asap.
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Chuff McNothing posted:lol being run out of Rochester Usually they only do that to non fishpeople. Angepain posted:The top brass knowing little about it is pretty dangerous in itself, in that the terf set has a lot of experience putting their bigotry into terms that sound plausible to someone that is not paying that much attention. If they are genuinely poorly informed and not just trying to please the bigot demographic then I hope someone who is informed can find an opportunity to have a long chat with them asap. Agreed, to be sure. As I said I really hope the membership gets more input on this because I think they'd make the right decision.
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