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Rhyno posted:Cavill's Superman dying on screen didn't really get much of a reaction out of me. It's amazing how emotionally sterile those films are.
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I still get choked up thinking about Professor Stein dying, so I'm definitely nervous we'll lose some version of Flash or Superman in this story. I'm also holding out hope for some kind of brief glimpse of the DC animated universe. You've got Kevin Conroy, Phil Lamarr, and Carl Lumbly, just show one glimpse of the animated Justice League please!!
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Is there a reason they gave for why no one from Titans is showing up? With that many other shows and random DC characters they're pulling in I thought it would have been easy to pull Robin and maybe Raven or Jason Todd over for a scene or two. Super disappointed with that show. I like the portrayal of the characters for the most part but the plot is just such garbage.
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Phenotype posted:Is there a reason they gave for why no one from Titans is showing up? With that many other shows and random DC characters they're pulling in I thought it would have been easy to pull Robin and maybe Raven or Jason Todd over for a scene or two. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnnCd3haipo
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Phenotype posted:Is there a reason they gave for why no one from Titans is showing up? With that many other shows and random DC characters they're pulling in I thought it would have been easy to pull Robin and maybe Raven or Jason Todd over for a scene or two. Supposedly there is a Titans cameo or reference.
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My guess for Supermen: Tiny Superman: Survives Smallville Superman: Dies KC Superman: "Dies" to return at an unspecified time for a new Crisis (see: Infinite Crisis) Luthor is probably gonna escape early though. LoT is probably gonna be devoted to picking up the pieces of the Crisis as they're the "Finale" of the event if I wanted to guess, but they might just pick up from the previous season because why not?
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Yeah, again, if they're going with the COIE parallels, then I can see them utilizing Routh's Superman -- who is also, technically kinda sort of, the Christopher Reeve Superman? -- to stand in for the original Earth-2 Superman's story here. He's gonna punch the Monitor into nothing and then get a final send-off to be with his Lois in space heaven and ooh god 
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BrianWilly posted:Yeah, again, if they're going with the COIE parallels, then I can see them utilizing Routh's Superman -- who is also, technically kinda sort of, the Christopher Reeve Superman? -- to stand in for the original Earth-2 Superman's story here. He's gonna punch the Monitor into nothing and then get a final send-off to be with his Lois in space heaven and ooh god Does that mean Tom Welling comes back for the next Crisis evil as gently caress?
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STAC Goat posted:Does that mean Tom Welling comes back for the next Crisis evil as gently caress? With his best friend Chloe
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bobkatt013 posted:With his best friend Chloe Worse, they'll bring in kryptonite Lana to be a supergirl villain
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BrianWilly posted:Yeah, again, if they're going with the COIE parallels, then I can see them utilizing Routh's Superman -- who is also, technically kinda sort of, the Christopher Reeve Superman? -- to stand in for the original Earth-2 Superman's story here. He's gonna punch the Monitor into nothing and then get a final send-off to be with his Lois in space heaven and ooh god I feel like there's no way that one of the actual show stars doesn't end up being the one that takes the Anti-Monitor out in the end. Maybe Supergirl to echo the original, though it would be funny if the whole thing ended with "You have failed this multiverse!" and an arrow to the head.
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bobkatt013 posted:With his best friend Chloe That would have to be a very long time in the future. Or a Cameo filmed in a prison cafeteria.
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TwoPair posted:I feel like there's no way that one of the actual show stars doesn't end up being the one that takes the Anti-Monitor out in the end. Maybe Supergirl to echo the original, though it would be funny if the whole thing ended with "You have failed this multiverse!" and an arrow to the head. This is the correct way to end it, and I hope that the writers recognize it.
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I wonder if they are going to kill off "originals" to be the conclusion or they need to find the origin characters to defeat the monitor Reeve's Supes 90s Flash Arrow One of the BoP? I dunno just spitballing here.
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I know who they should introduce. George Newbern as Superman's dad (either one)
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The Lord Bude posted:That would have to be a very long time in the future. Or a Cameo filmed in a prison cafeteria. She's out on house arrest awaiting sentencing, so they could probably figure it out. It'd be fitting to the original comics for Routh's Superman to be the stand-in for Kal-L, but I expect someone from the current shows will have to be the main one to strike down the Anti Monitor. Though maybe they could have Welling and Routh go off at the end and potentially bring back Welling as Superboy Prime.
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Yeah, I feel like everything is pushing towards Oliver doing the killer blow and anyone else besides Barry, Kara, and probably Sara would be weird. They're the big guns. They're the "Trinity". But if I were to guess on a direct Crisis analogue I'm thinking Oliver and Felicity take the place of Kal-L and Lois. With the Supermen I feel like maybe we get Arrowverse Superman being the last one standing and one true Superman leading into his spinoff.
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Xelkelvos posted:I know who they should introduce. George Newbern as Superman's dad (either one) George Newbern as Jor-El to Tyler Hoechlin's Clark would be fantastic if only for all the Sephiroth jokes it would invariably spawn.
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Wasn't there like a 90's Superboy show that existed? Could that actor come back or is he a Chud like Dean Cain?
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Watching the trailer again and "it's time to go" "Is everyone out yet?" "No." "Then it's not time" is one of those old hero cliches that I will nevertheless always love.
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8one6 posted:Wasn't there like a 90's Superboy show that existed? Could that actor come back or is he a Chud like Dean Cain? I think less people remember that one than Birds of Prey. As for the chud thing... quote:John Newton (also known as John Haymes Newton) (born December 29, 1965) is an American actor. He is perhaps best known for his regular roles on the television programs Superboy as Clark Kent in the show's first season and as Ryan McBride on the soap opera Melrose Place. He is currently focused on ancestral clearing practices. I have no idea what that means. quote:Ancestral Lineage Clearing is an advanced healing technique where a person energetically travels back into their family’s past to change a non-harmonious or dysfunctional pattern in order to bring more happiness, health, joy, prosperity or better relationships into their present life. Uh...
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STAC Goat posted:I think less people remember that one than Birds of Prey. As for the chud thing... ...Damnit Barry!
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The monitor told J'onn that he was impressed by his fighting "during Elseworlds". Did... did someone ever use that word during the event or does the Monitor watch the CW?
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Argue posted:The monitor told J'onn that he was impressed by his fighting "during Elseworlds". Did... did someone ever use that word during the event or does the Monitor watch the CW? 90s Flash uses it when he finally breaks through to Earth-1. "Novu thinks the Elseworlds created by the Book of Destiny approximates the collision of realities that we're facing." E: Or yeah he could just be reading the comics. We have proof of that one https://twitter.com/lamonicagarrett/status/1174474584214691841 nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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STAC Goat posted:I think less people remember that one than Birds of Prey. As for the chud thing... The guy who replaced him seems to have done a little better: quote:Gerard Christopher auditioned for the part of Superman / Clark Kent in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman and was chosen by the casting director. However, when the producers learned he had essentially already played the role, he was dismissed in favor of Dean Cain
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A few people have mentioned it, but they're right: Christopher Reeves Superman is in this and he became Kingdom Come Superman. I know 'canon' as a concept is loving stupid and meaningless, but I still love it.
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Argue posted:The monitor told J'onn that he was impressed by his fighting "during Elseworlds". Did... did someone ever use that word during the event or does the Monitor watch the CW? 
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Guy seems genuinely thrilled to get to put on a ridiculous suit and hair and be a part of this.
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I will never get over them calling it "Crisis" in the shows over and over instead of "A Crisis" it bothers me so much!
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Moon Slayer posted:Guy seems genuinely thrilled to get to put on a ridiculous suit and hair and be a part of this. I watched an interview with him last night. He’s a really big comics fan. He said that when he was auditioning for the role they didn’t tell anyone what the part was in order to preserve secrecy, so he thought he was playing Val-Zod, and then they told him he was the Monitor and he just kind of gasped because he realized that meant they were going all in and doing Crisis at some point.
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Rhyno posted:I will never get over them calling it "Crisis" in the shows over and over instead of "A Crisis" it bothers me so much! As far as I know it's just The Flash that does that, which makes it even better, like Ollie thinks of it as a serious threat but Barry and co. just think of it as a TV event.
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Argue posted:As far as I know it's just The Flash that does that, which makes it even better, like Ollie thinks of it as a serious threat but Barry and co. just think of it as a TV event. He hasn't done it nearly as much as Barry, but Oliver's definitely been guilty of referring to Crisis by "Crisis" at times.
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Well quibbles aside, I cant express how excited I am for sunday.
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The only thing that would make this impending crossover better is if OnBenchNow were still doing the Arrowverse synopses to this day...
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I never read the original comic, but does VARUMNO mean anything to anybody? If we assume the plaque that Nash was interacting with spells out Mar Novu, then that would be the order that he pressed the buttons in. I can't think of what other 7 letters it would represent because there's no repetition of symbols, which rules out things like Pariah, Crisis, and Monitor.
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Why are we assuming it spells Mar Novu? If you watch the trailers In the final trailer Mar Novu specifically states there are 7 heroes that can save the multiverse. The far right symbol seems likely to represent Oliver. Far left is Black Lightning, 3rd from left is Barry, the hexagon shaped symbol might be the Kryptonians, collectively? I'm almost dead certain it doesn't spell Mar Novu.
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It's clearly the Monitor's phone number.
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Q_res posted:Why are we assuming it spells Mar Novu? If you watch the trailers In the final trailer Mar Novu specifically states there are 7 heroes that can save the multiverse. The far right symbol seems likely to represent Oliver. Far left is Black Lightning, 3rd from left is Barry, the hexagon shaped symbol might be the Kryptonians, collectively? Yeah, that does look like a Flash mask. Second to last looks like some kind of butterfly. Second one could either be some kind of bird, or Magneto This is what I get for trying to be clever.
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I'm trying to avoid plot spoilers (but cast pics/announcements are okay, so I keep checking this thread for more of that hotness). One thing I need to know, though: Like, is no one gonna look at KC Supes and say, "hey, you look just Ray Palmer but a little grey? And why are you wearing Superman's outfit?" I'm baffled as to how that's gonna play out. Is Ray gonna show up in Crisis, or conveniently be stuck in a time loop or some poo poo? Ahhh, comics. Thanks for making this thread, btw, Rhyno! (I miss your Guy AV, though, what happened?!) Good to have one central location for all my Crisis needs. 
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