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Xanderkish posted:I guess the squid makes sense to me in the universe of Lindelof Watchmen, both because it's faithful to the original work and because Lindelof just loves weird poo poo and I love Lindelof for loving weird poo poo. Well what would you have the gigantic extra-dimensional alien with a psychic death scream look like? Also, giant squids IRL aren't extremely vaginal, so there's that.
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Dec 8, 2019 04:54
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i would think an alien physic being would be unfathomable to me if it actually showed up. It should look like nothing familiar. Incomprehensible upon first sight. The fact the squid looked like a squid, yea whatever its still great. octopus/squid are smart so whatever space squid sounds good enough for the story
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Dec 8, 2019 05:01
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Wait hold on I just remembered the actual best part of the Watchmen movie was a contest for fans to make stuff to appear on Veidt's screens in the actual film and it gave birth to this.
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Dec 8, 2019 05:05
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Well what would you have the gigantic extra-dimensional alien with a psychic death scream look like? Buddy, I didn't say I had a better idea. I'm just stupid recognizing stupid.
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Dec 8, 2019 05:07
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Zack Snyder's storytelling is either bland mediocrity or fetishistic excess, depending on the scene. This means literally nothing. Just completely opaque word salad.
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Dec 8, 2019 05:13
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Sleeveless posted:This means literally nothing. Just completely opaque word salad. Okay, let me be more specific: Zack Snyder's direction of scenes that revolve around emotional communication between characters are cookie-cutter, forgettable, shot for efficiency coverage without any deliberation or craft for the framing of emotions. He compensates for this, with great success in his Hollywood career, with a genuine talent for presenting dynamic action and visual spectacle.
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Dec 8, 2019 05:20
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Xanderkish posted:In the original though, the story tries to tack to a decently down-to-earth telling of the superhero story, with Dr. Manhattan being the primary exception that I think nonetheless works. The Squid just always seemed stupid in that context: that Veidt could think of nothing else other than a giant rear end squid to bring humanity together and stop nuclear armageddon just makes me further thing he's spent too much time sucking his own dick and he ended up sucking too hard and sucking out parts of his brain. The original Watchmen isn't about "what if superhero stories were down-to-earth?". Its taking the typical superhero tropes and infusing them with more nuance and moral ambiguity. The antagonist attacking the city with a giant monster in the end fits perfectly in that context. Veidt doing it 35 minutes before he explains the plan does make him less stupid than is typical for his archetype, though. One small detail I hate in the movie is that line is changed to "I triggered it 35 minutes ago", instead.
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They told Snyder to just replicate what he did for 300. This makes sense to executive producers who think, "He took an acclaimed but relatively unknown graphic novel and made a ton of money off it!" But obviously Frank Miller and Moore would have a fist fight if you put them in a room to talk about things like police authority, patriotism, war, etc.
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Dark Knight Returns would be a really good fit for Snyder. It’s extremely fash.
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^^^^ He's barely an objectivist, much less a fascist. That would mean watching something of his other than 300, though. Some of the excess in the movie are the hyperstylized fights where there's clear superstrength, sawing off the thug's arms in the prison break scene, etc. Embellishments on the book that were dumb and/or gross but hey they parodied Batman Begins or something, possibly. tin can made man posted:The terrorists bombed US military, but the SPD's gleeful and decisive murder of the puppeteer shows their unquestioning and comfortable alliance with their colonizers. Lol if you don't think police the world over don't regularly and gleefully ice people they deem as terrorists without US input.
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Dec 8, 2019 07:45
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Chadzok posted:oh my god new ep in less than 24 hours this is torture, this show is a drug This entire experience is going to live or die by the next episode, and if it pulls off a miracle... it's still gonna live or die by the finale. The tension is just insane.
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Chadzok posted:oh my god new ep in less than 24 hours this is torture, this show is a drug I don't get to watch until 9:30 or 10:00, so my favorite thing is checking my control panel periodically on Sunday evening just to see how many new posts are in this thread and it's like 3...5...8...ELEVENTY HUNDRED.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:This entire experience is going to live or die by the next episode, and if it pulls off a miracle... it's still gonna live or die by the finale. The tension is just insane. It’s going to a be an hour long uninterrupted shot of Manhattan’s glorious blue dong.
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Drunkboxer posted:It’s going to a be an hour long uninterrupted shot of Manhattan’s glorious blue dong. “And the Emmy for best dong on camera goes to..”
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Dec 8, 2019 14:46
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As silly as it feels, it's really nice to have a really cool Sunday night program to look forward to in order to help the weekend transition to the week. Been a long time since I had a Sunday show I looked forward to this much.
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Chadzok posted:oh my god new ep in less than 24 hours this is torture, this show is a drug This is it boys, we go over the top tonight. It’s been an honor serving with all of you. Show’s going to do to our brains what Dr Manhattan did to Vietnam.
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Dec 8, 2019 17:01
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considering the subject matter, this is the episode that's gonna make or break the show, because you can't say "oh yeah so Jon Osterman decided to live as Cal Abar" without raising some serious questions
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Dec 8, 2019 17:53
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There’s definitely no photos of the head of Saigon PD executing someone in the street or anything. Nope, definitely not. I’m really just impressed they had the restraint to not reenact that photo and have the execution happen off-screen.
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I was expecting a photo reenactment from the moment they opened the car and was extremely pleased to be surprised at its absence. It’s like a subtle troll of Snyder too, given the credits montage of the movie.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:There’s definitely no photos of the head of Saigon PD executing someone in the street or anything. Nope, definitely not. Oh, poo poo. That's good. And I was proud of noticing that Angela styled her hair after Officer Jen's in the trailer for tonight's episode!
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KoRMaK posted:i would think an alien physic being would be unfathomable to me if it actually showed up. It should look like nothing familiar. Incomprehensible upon first sight. There's a reason why cthulu is depicted as squid like, it feels very foreign and alien. Moore was just aping Lovecraft there I think. Or.... Adrian was 
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I think he let the artists choose the form of the destructor and they made it a squid with a vagina dentata and rear end in a top hat for a face. Otherwise, what was the point of hiring them?
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Yeah, I sort of assumed the artists that Adrian choose just sort of cribbed from Lovecraft.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:You're a loose cannon, Hoofed Trunkstice. We don't even know who you are!
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Ugly In The Morning posted:There’s definitely no photos of the head of Saigon PD executing someone in the street or anything. Nope, definitely not. I mean, not for nothing, but that wasn't an example of someone they 'deemed as a terrorist'. Nguyen Van Lem had straight up murdered police officers and their families earlier in the day, including multiple children. He wasn't just some guy they shot.
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So loving hyped for tonight. Let’s go, crazy blue man god!
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Caros posted:I mean, not for nothing, but that wasn't an example of someone they 'deemed as a terrorist'. Nguyen Van Lem had straight up murdered police officers and their families earlier in the day, including multiple children. He wasn't just some guy they shot. You're saying an iconic image was taken out of context in such a way that it conveyed the exact opposite of what happened? I'm shocked.
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Sorry, I gotta say, this doesn't compare to Cudrip.
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The original Crookshanks and Phillips are like adorable tiny baby Gollums :3 E: Why do they care so much about this random kid who watched them dicking down? I figure they'd either push him out the window or just ignore him. Joke Miriam fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Dec 9, 2019 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Sorry, I gotta say, this doesn't compare to Cudrip. There is a certain emotion that comes through his conversation that I feel shouldn’t be there.
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Dec 9, 2019 03:13
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Dr. Manhattan sounds pleasant and happy, this isn't Dr. Manhattan.
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i liked the guy who played manhattan in the movie, i dont like this guys voice
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Scooter_McCabe posted:Dr. Manhattan sounds pleasant and happy, this isn't Dr. Manhattan. God seemed pretty happy after creating the garden of Eden and then one piece of fruit later bam it’s Old Testament time
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hobbesmaster posted:God seemed pretty happy after creating the garden of Eden and then one piece of fruit later bam it’s Old Testament time He was none too thrilled that people wanted to be like him. So if it follows in the show Manhattan is going to be explosively pissed when Keene tries to make himself a proverbial god.
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Dec 9, 2019 03:19
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I have no idea how this ends, but the episode's premise has me hooked.
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I hope we never get a look at his face head-on. It's a cool stylistic choice. Like not seeing the face of God. I do hope we see his dong though. Edit: When it's blue. This dong doesn't count.
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