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Jel Shaker posted:On Marr they were also quite dismissive of labour now being a “party of the young” not the “working class”, yet somehow the statistics guy they had on neglected to mention that the inflection point between lab/con was 45 years old, those with families and working poor? https://twitter.com/judeinlondon2/status/1203620263222554624?s=19
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Jel Shaker posted:On Marr they were also quite dismissive of labour now being a “party of the young” not the “working class”, yet somehow the statistics guy they had on neglected to mention that the inflection point between lab/con was 45 years old, those with families and working poor? Same reason millenials are still considered to be teenagers by certain groups wanting to criticise the left - realising that the horrors of existence and the resulting radical tendencies aren't something that people can age out of means that the end of their dominance is inevitable but they can't acknowledge that fact so need to handwave it away.
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Jel Shaker posted:On Marr they were also quite dismissive of labour now being a “party of the young” not the “working class”, yet somehow the statistics guy they had on neglected to mention that the inflection point between lab/con was 45 years old, those with families and working poor? Working class has come to take a very narrow definition for these people. White, middle aged or older, probably with a Northern English accent. You can't be working class if you're under 40, you don't count if you're black or Asian.
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That last paragraph  https://twitter.com/snigskitchen/status/1203621130885578757?s=19
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I guess this got buried by election news but the LFB commissioner was forced to quit over Grenfell. I'm caremad.
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Oh for the love of... regional office hosed up our postal leaflets. "People with privilege " instead of "people before privilege " and reelection Panny instead of elect. Way to make our job easier.
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Trickjaw posted:Oh for the love of... regional office hosed up our postal leaflets. "People with privilege " instead of "people before privilege " and reelection Panny instead of elect. Way to make our job easier.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:
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Part One Excerpts from a diary found in the rubble: I got to meet Semicolon today. Everyone says she’s amazing, but all I saw was a woman out of her depth, constantly afraid of the people around her. She’s the boss, but she’s scared of us. Why’s that? If she wanted to she could send me on a suicide mission and I would go. That’s the oath I swore to the Chosen One, and apparently that’s her. Feels weird though. This is the person who will deliver us from our trials? I don’t think she could deliver a sharp insult. I fuckin hope she shapes up right quick. I don’t like this. … Most of the squad don’t like her. They see the same problems I do. She is not ready. She has no survival skills and it’s a fuckin miracle she hasn’t gotten anyone killed yet. But she’s the Chosen One, and that’s enough for some of the squaddies. It should be enough for me, but it’s getting harder and harder to ignore the evidence of my own eyes. … She’s scared of squirrels. She’s scared of fuckin squirrels! I get that the big mutant ones are proper frightening, but even the little fuckers from the Before Times make her start shaking and weeping! This was supposed to be the person who would lead us to DESTROY the squirrels! This was supposed to be our salvation! I don’t know what to fuckin do… … We are hosed we are PROPER hosed! The squirrels got in last night and stole half our supplies. We’ve rebarricaded, but we lost 2 specialists and the Squils have adopted positions around us. They can starve us out now, and it looks like that’s their plan. I can hear the bastards all the time, and so can Semicolon. She’s worse than useless now. She cannot hack it. WTF is going on? … I should just go. There are only a few of us left, and Semicolon is still an active hindrance to our defence. She blunders around in a panic all the time attracting attention and loving things up. I’m having to keep an eye on her when I SHOULD be watching for the Squils. I should get out of here before we’re all dead. But I swore an oath. To my friends, yeah, but the overriding oath was to our leader. And that’s fuckin Semicolon. What in the gently caress have I gotten myself into? ... There’s only 2 of us now. Me and Semicolon. How in the gently caress did she make it this far when no one else did? Some gave their lives to save hers, sure, and I’m supposed to want to do the same, but it’s a cosmic fuckin joke that all my squaddies went before she did. Maybe the prophecies were true. Maybe she is protected by a divine force. Big fuckin waste of divine protection, if you ask me! … Am I gonna have to fuckin carry her? I don’t know what to do! God, I’m gonna sleep and then I’ll try to write my thoughts down, get a plan together. I have to do SOMETHING There are no further entries.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:How does this even happen? I can only assume fuckwits. We have got a profuse apology from regional office, but its hosed things right up. If we lose, I'm going to regional and ripping the entrails from the proofreader.
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OwlFancier posted:Me, the libcom tweetman, to the homeless guy "have you tried not letting the rulers tell you what to do?" Doubly funny because as the Private Eye never tires of pointing out, some of the most hardcore 'legacy' ancoms and Stalinists are legit aristocrats.
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Trickjaw posted:I can only assume fuckwits. We have got a profuse apology from regional office, but its hosed things right up. If we lose, I'm going to regional and ripping the entrails from the proofreader. Momentum is now a CANNIBAL CULT. Read our EXCLUSIVE inside.
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Z the IVth posted:Momentum is now a CANNIBAL CULT. Read our EXCLUSIVE inside. Been called worse.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I think there's something about TV that bends peoole's brains. Like the last leg, presented by two disabled men, and they're going all-in on the 'but Corbyn's just as bad' bullshit because that's what they think neutrality is. There is. It's a huge shame, I've met Adam Hills on multiple occasions and he's Good People, in person, and TLL started out really pretty strong on 'hey maybe we shouldn't be killing disabled people' but it's drifted progressively more liberal since the first couple of series. I literally stormed out of the room on one occasion in I think 2017 (it might have been the time they had Stanley Johnson on, or did they have Louise Mensch once back when she was a thing?) and I've just not been able to watch it since. The whole concept of satire kind of died for me when Trump was elected. It all became too real to joke about. Guavanaut posted:Reform what exactly? I suspect they mean reform in the same way Hitler meant Socialist.
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Zalakwe posted:I'm anxious because my wee one is in hospital. A few pages late but all the best. Glad that she's getting good care, everything will be fine, don't worry! 
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Braggart posted:What are those cone shaped ones you can put on your fingertips and pretend to be a monster? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Nachos-Lays-Bugles-Chilli-Weight/dp/B07TWN368X/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Bugles&qid=1575804536&s=grocery&sr=1-1 Honestly I half expected them to be called cornets or something over there.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:This country is infuriating. I'm comfortably middle class now but I know that without the NHS some bad luck could destroy my life, but I guess about 40% of people are happy to throw that away because they hate the Belgians. The way I explained this to my reasonably comfortable friend who posted the 'So what are Labour offering me???' because she has a house and a good job was to just say 'Okay, so what happens if you come down with a serious illness and are off work for 3 months? Will you have your house? Can you pay your bills? No? Then you should be supporting Labour.' I reckon that for 90% of this country, they're hosed if they're out of work for 3 months. Utterly truly hosed. But no-one thinks of it like that, they only relate to it as now. You need to relate it to them as best you can.
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XMNN posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1203423284957712384 lol there was a recent article about how a town in florida that was a food desert had the local government open up a supermarket that paid for food for people and all of a sudden everyone could eat properly again but they got very upset at the idea it might be something like socialism
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chestnut santabag posted:Aren't ballots in the UK arranged alphabetically of surname? They always have been when I've voted! We need to get loads of Labour candidates with surnames beginning with A. Alice and Andrew Acme.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:They always have been when I've voted! Find some Aaronovitch's who don't hate labour
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Trickjaw posted:Oh for the love of... regional office hosed up our postal leaflets. "People with privilege " instead of "people before privilege " and reelection Panny instead of elect. Way to make our job easier. Did you deliver them or dump them? A Buttery Pastry posted:How does this even happen? We had town council elections and our regional office put an aerial view of .. the WRONG TOWN on it.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:We had town council elections and our regional office put an aerial view of .. the WRONG TOWN on it.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Did you deliver them or dump them? It was the postal leaflet. I wouldn't have handed them out, as I read everything in case of questions. They wanted us to go retrieve them, imagine how professional that would look.
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Tigey posted:The market cannot fail, only be failed Let's take this thinking one step further: Labour/Corbyn cannot not fail, success is only incidental
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Trickjaw posted:It was the postal leaflet. I wouldn't have handed them out, as I read everything in case of questions. They wanted us to go retrieve them, imagine how professional that would look. Jeez. The energy and time spent by volunteers on the ground is so important, I can’t imagine who thought asking them to spend hours embarrassing themselves like that would be a good idea either
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Shogi posted:Jeez. The energy and time spent by volunteers on the ground is so important, I can’t imagine who thought asking them to spend hours embarrassing themselves like that would be a good idea either This is why I feel a putsch coming on once the election is over.
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Went canvassing for the first time yesterday. Was good to meet comrades I'd previously only poo poo posted with on Facebook groups! Two very different wards, one solid labour, one pretty tory. Interesting how completely different the houses in each were laid out. First one in the morning was long straight roads with lines of semi detached houses. The one in the afternoon was like the posties nightmare described a few years ago - houses laid out in completely unfathomable patterns - with four of us taking one side of a road it was a long hike to get to the next door. I wondered if the layout is designed to fit as many houses in as possible whole maintaining the illusion that it's less dense because the front doors are not close together. It was utterly disorientating - after a couple of hours walking I realised we had almost made it back to my house. Wasn't sure how it would be but went it alone after a few doors. Didn't have a single rude response, although one was very keen to tell me she'd voted Tory! Not many undecided, but hopefully managed to persuade a couple!
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