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I live on a 1960s-built council estate and the layout is hilariously confusing. It's a sort of horseshoe, where the odd numbers are around the outside and the evens around the inside. But there are blocks of flats here and there, scooping out chunks of numbers. And little offshoot roads curving around the back. I live at number 51 and I have no notion whatsoever where number 52 is, and I've lived here for 35 years. e: 112 is an emergency telephone number you can dial from your mobile to beg for police and ambulance help that won't come because of cuts.
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Jose posted:lol there was a recent article about how a town in florida that was a food desert had the local government open up a supermarket that paid for food for people and all of a sudden everyone could eat properly again but they got very upset at the idea it might be something like socialism IIRC someone (either a customer or even the local councillor behind the scheme) claimed it wasn't socialism because the supermarket made a profit. It's only socialism if it doesn't work! What we have here is a municipal food shop funded from equal and universal contributions from its users and providing goods and services without a profit motive but still covering its costs! It's not socialism!!!
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mediaphage posted:Early morning quoting is difficult No worries, I just wanted to make a dumb joke 
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Braggart posted:No worries, I just wanted to make a dumb joke Mostly I just wanted an excuse to browse for crisps online
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thespaceinvader posted:There is. I'm the same, they had a Tory on around the time of the 2017 election and it was miserable viewing. But, I watched their election special on Friday and Alex Brooker in particular was back on full "the Tories hate disabled people so gently caress 'em" form, which was good to see  Also: I think I may actually have convinced my father to vote Labour? He has been very loud about how much he hates Corbyn and Johnson equally, but I think my passive-aggressive "you should vote for the best chance to kick Boris out" retweets may have convinced him. If Chelsea and Fulham turns red, I'm taking credit*.  *not actually. Well, maybe actually. I haven't seen a single Labour canvasser around here, but we're right near Putney and Kensington which are ultra-marginals.
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HopperUK posted:I live on a 1960s-built council estate and the layout is hilariously confusing. It's a sort of horseshoe, where the odd numbers are around the outside and the evens around the inside. But there are blocks of flats here and there, scooping out chunks of numbers. And little offshoot roads curving around the back. I live at number 51 and I have no notion whatsoever where number 52 is, and I've lived here for 35 years. Every house number should just be the GPS coordinates, IMO
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/08/tactical-voting-guide-2019-keep-tories-out-remain-voter-general-election they want you to vote lib dem in Sheffield hallam to keep the Tories out Tories got 23% last time, labour 38% and libs 35% so it doesn't seem like its exactly a critical anti-tory seat and it's a really studenty area so it's pretty insulting to ask them to vote for the party that betrayed them e: the last time the Tories got within 15% of the winner was 1992, which was presumably before students started turning up en masse XMNN fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Dec 8, 2019 |
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XMNN posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/08/tactical-voting-guide-2019-keep-tories-out-remain-voter-general-election The Guardian has worrying anti-squirrel tendencies.
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technically it's the observer  e: do they still do that when people drag their articles they happened to publish on a Sunday, idk E2: 16* Chelsea and Fulham City “superwoman” Nicola Horlick is standing for the Lib Dems against anti-Brexit Tory Greg Hands in a strongly Remain seat VOTE LIB DEM 52% Tory, 33% labour and 11% lib dem in 2017, so they must really be buying into their polling/European election results or whatever also imagine endorsing an investment manager lmao XMNN fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Dec 8, 2019 |
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Bungeyjump posted:Went canvassing for the first time yesterday. Was good to meet comrades I'd previously only poo poo posted with on Facebook groups! Good on you mate! If my experience is a guide you might find it’s a bit addictive. Try to have a healthier mindset than me though, and focus on the good work you’ve done. I’m developing a habit of feeling guilty when I’m not out there, and replaying conversations in my mind wishing I’d done x or y differently. The latter can be positive if it’s well-directed, but guilt over not running yourself into the dirt is no use to anyone.
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Interesting to see that the comments seem split between the "don't attack your own party when there's an election on" viewpoint and "why aren't you attacking your own party even more?" viewpoint.
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OwlFancier posted:When do the polling cards normally go out? I've had mine for a couple of weeks now.
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XMNN posted:technically it's the observer The Observer does not guard, and The Guardian does not observe.
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XMNN posted:technically it's the observer I'd advise everyone not to read the last desperate gasps of establishment bootlickers before the election, i.e. this morning observer. A whole heap of  If it wasn't for Corbyn labour would win! and But the anti-semitism going on.https://twitter.com/PeoplesMomentum/status/1203647490798559233
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HopperUK posted:I've had mine for a couple of weeks now. None have arrived for anyone at my house :/
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Excellent work https://twitter.com/oyofmidmidworld/status/1203649870520823808?s=20 At the risk of being a massive name-dropper I was chatting to her a couple of weeks ago and she has extremely thread-appropriate socialist opinions, and we were in full agreement about the political promise of Zoomers radicalised by austerity.
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Guavanaut posted:Reform what exactly? the third reich
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I looked out the window at about midnight and the wind had spun my VOTE LABOUR sign round so it was pointing the wrong way. This morning some kindly soul has set it right, and the VOTE CONSERVATIVE - GET BREXIT DONE sign from up the street is folded up in the bin on the park Charles says vote Labour. Do as you’re told.
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OwlFancier posted:None have arrived for anyone at my house :/ Call electoral registration officer tomorrow to make sure you're on the list, then assuming so and it's a postal delivery error, you can go vote without the card.
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OwlFancier posted:None have arrived for anyone at my house :/ You don't need your polling card to vote and if you're unsure of your polling station there should be a number you can call to find out. I think it'll be on your council's website?
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I did get a leaflet addressed to me off the tories so I assume I'm still on the register, I did re-register as well to make sure before the deadline. Mostly I just don't put it past the tories to "forget" a lot of people were on the register.
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Sanford posted:I looked out the window at about midnight and the wind had spun my VOTE LABOUR sign round so it was pointing the wrong way. This morning some kindly soul has set it right, and the VOTE CONSERVATIVE - GET BREXIT DONE sign from up the street is folded up in the bin on the park Oh no, you haven't taught him to say that have you? They'll come down on you way harder than they did to the pug nazi! 
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Failed Imagineer posted:BTW has anyone put "Burnsy, Cheeks, Gibbo, Josh, Morty& Ricey" on a t-shirt yet? lol https://twitter.com/nonemorenegativ/status/1201333381289648129
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RockyB posted:I'd advise everyone not to read the last desperate gasps of establishment bootlickers before the election, i.e. this morning observer. A whole heap of I ignored your advice and it's incredibly lol that even though they have to say "anyone but Johnson" to maintain their liberal credentials they don't have the guts to spell out what that actually means given there's literally only one alternative and they can't stomach even a half-hearted endorsement of labour
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https://twitter.com/Bleache1rs/status/1203654612408045569 Jo, you're not allowed to run sockpuppets on Twitter.
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How long before the Guardian (the observer ) goes full right wing and says that Labour must be stopped before they let poor people into our houses. Also, not been able to do as much as I would like this week as I keep getting home and just falling asleep because I am depressed, but I am trying to share things and get as much done as possible. I love you all, and I really hope we win this.
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XMNN posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/08/tactical-voting-guide-2019-keep-tories-out-remain-voter-general-election This is nuts. It's so blatant. They've now changed that: "This article was updated on 8 December 2019. An earlier version recommended voting for an SNP candidate in Kirkcaldy who has been dropped by the party." They're recommending Chuka based on a single poll of 500 people; despite that fact Labour only need a 8pt swing from the last election, while Lib Dems need 35pts. Historically the largest ever swing in a single constituency is only 19pts. edit: just got an email to Labour's final donation push made £300k in 24 hours. Good to see the bit of my xmas bonus I chipped in helped a little! xtothez fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Dec 8, 2019 |
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A thought for our times: perhaps the Pug Nazi guy represents the party elite, and the pug represents the common people led astray by his charm 
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Look you can't expect journalists to do things like check facts that would get in the way of writing out their opinions.
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Josef bugman posted:How long before the Guardian (the observer Right back atcha Bugsy! Don't feel bad about extra rest. If you need it you need it 
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also from their article on potential outcomes, they're still peddling the lib dem fantasy that they will be able to install some one palatable to them in downing Street if there's a hung parliament https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/08/the-election-could-go-one-of-three-ways-what-would-each-result-mean quote:The Lib Dems have said they would not think of propping up a Labour government if it were led by Corbyn. So he may be pressured to step aside. this has always been nonsense. even if the lib Dems do end up holding the balance of power and manage to coerce Corbyn or Johnson into stepping aside, surely they must realise that they don't get to choose another party's leader and there are internal processes that will almost certainly return someone in a similar vein to the person they managed to oust. unless they think the labour membership are going to suddenly decide they want Harriet Harman in charge, or the Tory membership won't vote for the maddest brexiteer they can find, then you end up at the end of a weeks-long leadership contest with another leader the lib Dems "can't let into number 10" and we're back at square one, and possibly past the 31st of January to boot it's just completely illogical and I really want someone, anyone to ask Jo Swinson what she thinks is the likely order of events in this dream scenario because as far as I can tell there is no way she gets what she wants partly because I'm genuinely curious about the extent of their delusion, partly because I want to throw it in lib Dems faces when they go into coalition with raab or Gove because they're technically not Johnson
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We had our first and only attempt at canvassing in our area yesterday, a leaflet for labour. What a shame there is basically no chance that Luz Truss won't be reelected with a 10000+ majority. My neighbours must love looking at how poo poo everything is around here and think "Yes more of that please! Just keep the illegals away!". Also forced to come into work on a Sunday so doubly grumpy.
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You know, the Guardian/Observer thing is actually quite clever. I'm going to take it a step further with my new paper, and run 365 (or 366) editions a year, and if people complain about something the editorial response will be "lol stupid reedur, that was in the 327th edition, this is the 328th edition! You need to wait 0.997 years to make a complaint without us mocking your foolishness! ROFL honk honk honk!  "And that should happen frequently enough that I will have no space to publish the correctly-timed ones! Brilliant!
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XMNN posted:also from their article on potential outcomes, they're still peddling the lib dem fantasy that they will be able to install some one palatable to them in downing Street if there's a hung parliament The Lib Dems are planning to keep rerolling until they get a character with the stats that they want. Edit: I am not enough of an RPG nerd to take this joke any further but if anyone is and wants to, go wild
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XMNN posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/08/tactical-voting-guide-2019-keep-tories-out-remain-voter-general-election I mean, I’m almost certain the Lib Dem’s will win in Hallam anyway after Jared Omara’s fuckups, but yeah it’ll be because Tories vote tactically for LDs not the other way around.
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Jollity Farm posted:I confess I am getting anxious about the election (not sure the people coming in to the thread and saying "we're clearly going to lose, look at this objective information" are helping much). But if the Tories get a majority, there's always violent insurrection, right? I live in Northern Ireland and I've usually been what could be described as a very very very very soft unionist. I'm from West Belfast (and correspondingly despise Loyalists) but grew up generally after the worst aspects of anti-Catholic prejudice had been removed by law. So basically I got to be Irish and have the NHS. Not a bad deal. If Labour don't take this I'm joining Sinn Fein the next day. Sorry Brits, but enough is enough. I'm thinking fully automated luxury gay space communist United Ireland by 2025 is a good goal. Run from Belfast, because the gently caress if I'm going to have some Free Stater telling me what to do.
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xtothez posted:This is nuts. It's so blatant. The Observer article is just nonsense. There are a dozen extremely close Lab-Con marginals that it ignores, in favour of talking about CUKTIG no hopers like Chuka. It doesn't mention e.g. Calder Valley, which was a 500 vote conservative hold in 2017, in which the Greens and Lib-Dems have ceased campaigning. It doesn't mention Pudsey, a long time Labour seat which had a 300 vote Conservative win in 2017 where the local councillors have all flipped from Labour to Tory, so needs all the help available. It doesn't mention Hastings and Rye, the Amber Rudd seat which had multiple recounts due to how close it was and which has lost its incumbent MP so should be vulnerable. Any good faith tactical voting guide would include all those seats and more besides.
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I'm currently putting together my personal list of constituencies to keep an eye on during the results, if anyone has any suggestions for constituencies that are interesting or generally might be gained or lost by a thread favourite/enemy/meme let me know. here's my list so far, which may be skewed toward my own narrow interests: Bolsover - Dennis Skinner Brighton Pavillion - Caroline Lucas (pretty safe now but you always know it's past time for bed when this seat gets called) Chingford and Woodford Green - IDS Cities of London and Westminster - Chuka Umunna East Dunbartonshire - Jo Swinson Edinburgh South West - Joanna Cherry (she'll probably win this one and her main opposition is a Tory, but I'm keeping an eye regardless) Glasgow South - Johann Lamont (labour terf wings is endorsing) Ilford South - watch Mike Gapes lose Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath - expelled SNP candidate Neale Hanvey vs. labour Richmond Park - I'm just staggered that zac goldsmith still has a political career in tyool 2019, even with a 2017 majority of 45 people Stirling - Conservative majority of 148 in 2017 Uxbridge and South Ruislip - some guy named Boris, seems like a bit of an arse, i'm sure the electorate will do the sensible thing and vote for his opponent
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