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Absurd Alhazred posted:What were they even assholes about? How do you gently caress up calling a cab, getting on it, chatting if you're in the mood, getting off it, thanking your driver and paying? Friends, have you ever encountered Humans? Many of them suck!
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What were they even assholes about? How do you gently caress up calling a cab, getting on it, chatting if you're in the mood, getting off it, thanking your driver and paying?
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SardonicTyrant posted:People are super racist to cabbies in a way that beggars belief. Yikes! In other news, this is somewhat tech related, right? https://twitter.com/SF_emergency/status/1201915154935336960 loving SF is shutting down their emergency system for two years for upgrades. You'd think they'd have access to a single competent IT outfit.
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Why are warning sirens even on wifi? Why not... just use the old wired systems that were in place for decades? You can't tell me that it's cheaper than just paying some city worker to press a wired button and speaking over a microphone if they absolutely need to have voice. Jesus, that FAQ. They say it's going to take 2 years because they need to test everything. But why... not leave the old system on until you test the new one and deploy it? Did they get nailed with some ransomware and the entire system is offline?
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Why are warning sirens even on wifi? Why not... just use the old wired systems that were in place for decades? You can't tell me that it's cheaper than just paying some city worker to press a wired button and speaking over a microphone if they absolutely need to have voice. Do you think they're taking the old system down that long for fun? Do you think they just decided to take it down without looking at alternatives, or consulting engineers? Big emergency systems like this don't get taken offline without a huge amount of scrutiny from multiple oversight agencies. I don't know why they would need to take the whole system down to replace it, but I can imagine some possibilities. Systems this old usually have garbage documentation if there are even any record drawings at all. There can be major space limitations, where the only place to put a new headend is in the location of the existing. It's often much more expensive to try to piece meal the replacement than to just start from scratch. It's possible that the people in charge of this are tremendous idiots, or it's also possible that assuming they are is the same sort of "disruptive" hubris that provides the bulk of the material for this thread's mockery.
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Given the national pastime of America is to neglect and destroy vital public infrastructure to put in alternatives that exist primarily to line the pockets of the rich...
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Given the national pastime of America is to neglect and destroy vital public infrastructure to put in alternatives that exist primarily to line the pockets of the rich... So we should not trust infrastructure upgrade projects because they are actually a secret plot to destroy public infrastructure?
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Yeah, people should never question how governments go about things. We should trust in the system, because it would never do something stupid. Or harmful. Or dangerous. Two years of not having sirens in a city that can be hit by earthquakes isn't responsible. It's obvious that the system works now, or they'd have said "System broke and we can't use it anymore, so it'll take time to replace." not "We're going to bring it down to replace in 2 years." This isn't a secret plot to destroy public infrastructure, this is just the city of san francisco being dumb. It's not like they couldn't actually explain the reasons for the 2 year downtime, file development plans, or any number of things to abate people's concern over it. No, that'd make too much sense. Just blindly trust city hall!
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Papercut posted:So we should not trust infrastructure upgrade projects because they are actually a secret plot to Have you ever been to Latin America my friend? Or Britain for that matter, now I think about the Boris Bridge Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Dec 7, 2019 |
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not like san francisco has a recent history of totally loving up infrastructure projects. the van ness brt, transbay transit center, central subway, and muni signal upgrade projects have all completed on time and on budget, yup.
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Sagacity posted:Fair and balanced Is it possible the google robots put it that way because it knows it angers you and drives engagement?
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Raenir Salazar posted:Is it possible the google robots put it that way because it knows it angers you and drives engagement? I've wondered a few times if when I tell the Google now feed on my Android to stop showing articles from Fox News or somewhere similar, if it's not collecting that information and weaponizing it against me for later driving hate-boner engagement on other services. But then I stopped wondering because it's obviously true
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Absurd Alhazred posted:What were they even assholes about? How do you gently caress up calling a cab, getting on it, chatting if you're in the mood, getting off it, thanking your driver and paying? Usually by being extremely drunk and looking like you're about to puke yourself or worse.
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Papercut posted:Do you think they're taking the old system down that long for fun? Do you think they just decided to take it down without looking at alternatives, or consulting engineers? Well they are apparently taking it offline before they even have funding to do the upgrades and those upgrades include buying new hardware that needs installed. It doesn't seem reasonable to take the system offline to upgrade it before they even have the funds to do the upgrade. They don't mention any actual issues that would warrant it either. If there were a huge vulnerability they could at least say that...but instead the only rationale they give is that it is "antiquated". That alone is a piss poor reason to take a critical system offline.
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Cicero posted:How the gently caress would Craigslist fight fraud without fundamentally changing everything about their business? Were newspapers also responsible for fraudulent classifieds? Hell, they took money for those and they still didn't verify jack poo poo, so they're even worse than Craigslist! CL actually started charging to post automotive ads because of this.
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Raldikuk posted:Well they are apparently taking it offline before they even have funding to do the upgrades and those upgrades include buying new hardware that needs installed. It doesn't seem reasonable to take the system offline to upgrade it before they even have the funds to do the upgrade. They don't mention any actual issues that would warrant it either. If there were a huge vulnerability they could at least say that...but instead the only rationale they give is that it is "antiquated". That alone is a piss poor reason to take a critical system offline. Other sources have more reporting on that, it sounds like it's because of software vulnerabilities similar to what allowed hackers to hijack Dallas' system recently.
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Sounds like the usual deal where any infrastructure in the country is crumbling. This time, an emergency notification system.
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Raldikuk posted:Well they are apparently taking it offline before they even have funding to do the upgrades and those upgrades include buying new hardware that needs installed. It doesn't seem reasonable to take the system offline to upgrade it before they even have the funds to do the upgrade. They don't mention any actual issues that would warrant it either. If there were a huge vulnerability they could at least say that...but instead the only rationale they give is that it is "antiquated". That alone is a piss poor reason to take a critical system offline. Their website lists multiple other methods of warning residents, including texting services and radio. The disaster types listed are contaminated water, radiological attacks, and tsunamis - I'm betting the last one is the only thing that could possibly strike residents unaware where a loudspeaker system would have real use and there are multiple other solutions available for that.
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Papercut posted:Other sources have more reporting on that, it sounds like it's because of software vulnerabilities similar to what allowed hackers to hijack Dallas' system recently. You mean the one in 2017 that the city fixed in a few days by adding ecryption to its radio trigger? Also that wasn't even a software vulnerability in Dallas because the system didn't use software. Its a radio triggered system, its just not usual secured because hijacking is relativly rare.
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Platystemon posted:
Presumably it knows you're not a libertarian since it didn't show articles about age of consent instead so that's a plus.
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Zachack posted:Their website lists multiple other methods of warning residents, including texting services and radio. The disaster types listed are contaminated water, radiological attacks, and tsunamis - I'm betting the last one is the only thing that could possibly strike residents unaware where a loudspeaker system would have real use and there are multiple other solutions available for that. Oh, I guess they don't need the warning system at all! Why are they replacing it then?
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Do people with out charged phones or emergency radios really deserve to be warned of earth quakes? I mean, its not like that city has a large class of people woth limited access to goods and housing that might be saved by a traditional warning system.
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lol @ anyone who didn’t disable emergency alerts after the first alert to look for a kidnapper’s vehicle in your own bedroom at three o’clock.
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Do people with out charged phones or emergency radios really deserve to be warned of earth quakes? I mean, its not like that city has a large class of people woth limited access to goods and housing that might be saved by a traditional warning system. the emergency warning system is simultaneously important enough to spend a couple years and millions of dollars upgrading but not important enough that it can't be taken out of commission for that time.
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Tech startup robs investors, customers https://www.theverge.com/2019/12/7/21000094/unicorn-electric-scooter-shut-down-refund-tile quote:Unicorn, the electric scooter startup from the co-creator of gadget tracker Tile, is shutting down operations after blowing all its cash on Facebook and Google ads but only receiving 350 orders for its glossy white e-scooters, it claims. In an email to customers, the company says it lacks the resources to deliver any of its $699 two-wheelers, and won’t be issuing refunds “as we are completely out of funding.” The cost to refund customers? $700 x 350 = $245,000 quote:A large portion of the revenue went toward paying for Facebook ads to bring traffic to the site. A portion also went to our manufacturer in the form of a down payment to build the scooters, but unfortunately that down payment cannot be redeemed for a portion of the scooters that we were planning to order. Millionaire CEO Nick Evans: “oops sowwy I wobbed u of half a grand uwu”
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quote:Unfortunately, the cost of the ads were just too expensive to build a sustainable business. And as the weather continued to get colder throughout the US and more scooters from other companies came on to the market, it became harder and harder to sell Unicorns, leading to a higher cost for ads and fewer customers. To be fair, no one could have predicted that it would get colder during the winter. That's just awful luck, and if only they had more VC funding, they could have gotten over this unexpected difficulty and they would have taken off once this unexpected phenomenon passes in a few weeks.
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Kirk posted:Tech startup robs investors, customers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFqFLo_bYq0&t=15s
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Konstantin posted:To be fair, no one could have predicted that it would get colder during the winter. That's just awful luck, and if only they had more VC funding, they could have gotten over this unexpected difficulty and they would have taken off once this unexpected phenomenon passes in a few weeks. You missed the part where they didn't predict that competition would exist
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Kirk posted:Tech startup robs investors, customers lmao they actually called it Unicorn c'mon.
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Do people with out charged phones or emergency radios really deserve to be warned of earth quakes? I mean, its not like that city has a large class of people woth limited access to goods and housing that might be saved by a traditional warning system. I'm guessing the people without homes will be on the street where the screams of phone havers will let them know that a major earthquake is about to hit in a few seconds, which is likely far faster than a loudspeaker system or radio. https://www.shakealert.org/faq/
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Groovelord Neato posted:lmao they actually called it Unicorn c'mon. Give them some credit, "Fraud Guarantee" was already taken.
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Do people with out charged phones or emergency radios really deserve to be warned of earth quakes? I mean, its not like that city has a large class of people woth limited access to goods and housing that might be saved by a traditional warning system. Let them die, and decrease the surplus population.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Let them die, and decrease the surplus population.
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(That was a quote from Mr. Scrooge in A Christmas Carol. I thought people would recognize it.) The SF Chron has a great overview on Lessons From The Unicorn Class of 2019. I liked this insight: quote:Historically, companies went public at a much younger age. “Typically, companies in the venture-backed world — like Palo Alto Networks, ServiceNow, Workday — they raised less than $100 million before going public. Everyone was very handsomely rewarded on the IPO and for many years after,” Horowitz said.
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Hey, Elon! Somebody replaced the training set with Straight Outta Compton again!
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