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Azza Bamboo: Apr 7, 2018; THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

RockyB posted:

Jesus Azza you should really cross-post some of your edits, because I'm not sure how many in this thread even know the other one exists.

Thanks. I don't post everything I draw everywhere because that'd take forever and I have absolutely no idea what's going to take off, what's only interesting to a thread and not to everyone more widely, or what's just going to be trash. I thought more highly of Mogg in a flat cap on question time than it panned out to be, while the picture of the Lib Dem bird landing on the tory tree is something I just crapped out and thought would go no further than "heh" but panned out to be my most widely viewed work by far. If I could predict what'd grab people and where I'd definitely make sure to post it there but because I have no idea what's a dud I really don't have the energy to post everything everywhere.

Glad you appreciate the work, though. It means a lot to me that someone views the things I put out there and enjoys them.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 00:53

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# ? May 26, 2024 14:45

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

GordonTheDeadFish posted:

I posted a few months ago about finally joining Labour, after years of putting up with increasingly gammony family. I did that, but I've had some health issues over the last few months. Losing my brother did a number on my depression, with all the attendant woes.

Well, I've finally decided to go out and do something - just emailed my local branch about the canvassing and leafleting events for the next few days. Probably won't be the biggest impact - I'm in Poole, and a 14k Con majority won't be beaten overnight. Is anyone else round this way? Not sure how it'll go in such a safe seat, and I'm even a little worried about running into someone from work.

Despite what the national polls say, the energy of this election feels very different to 2017. I'd never have even considered something like this without reading everyone here posting about getting out there, and the podcast has been a great boost as well. Really curious just how many extra people have got into campaigning because of this thread.

if you're worried about running into work people, it looks like Bournemouth East and West are further away and slightly closer to victory- only (lol) a 7.5k lead for the Tories in both

wherever you go, you probably don't need to email them, could just sign up on MyCampaignMap or https://events.labour.org.uk; although neither Poole nor Bournemouth East appear to have put up the remaining few days of campaigning yet, I'm guessing their events will be up tomorrow morning

also, condolences on bereavement depression, poo poo sucks hard, glad you're able to think about doing stuff now!

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Dec 9, 2019

# ? Dec 9, 2019 00:54

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Trump uses just about every anti-semitic trope and outright racism in this speech.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...l-a9237721.html

You can be as antisemitic as you want so long as you support Israel.

Also I hope you don't think I was being a oval office to you with my Sexit posts. I'm just trying to keep my spirits and that with daft wee jokes. My parents are actually old people, you know.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 00:55

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Pochoclo posted:

Do real people actually use those advent calendar things lol? Sounds so weird

Its the kid branded ones that are really really really poo poo. Like Paw Patrol or Transformers.
My manager at work got us one each and you are really paying for the packaging.
With all chocolates removed, they were tiny. More chocolate in a cadbury chocolate button.
These things should be banned with the amount of waste they make.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 00:55

Munin: Nov 14, 2004

Pochoclo posted:

I hope at least Corbyn gets elected and the UK policy stops being "hate migrants" because that's not good for my mental health and also I want the UK to be a bit more like Denmark or one of those socialist-ier countries

I just wanted to mention that Denmark is very similar to Austalia in terms of its treatment of immigrants these days and the fash are in the ascendant there.

Scandinavia is nowhere near as left wing as it used to be and the centrist to fash slide is in progress there as well. Furthest progressed in Denmark then I would say Sweden followed by Norway. It is another front in the struggle and the current direction the fight is going is not entirely positive.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 00:56

CottonWolf: Jul 20, 2012; Good ideas generator

Pochoclo posted:

Do real people actually use those advent calendar things lol? Sounds so weird

Advent candles are the way forward. Because fire is cool, and they give you an excuse to make it.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 00:59

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

https://twitter.com/timothy_stanley/status/1203799722349211648?s=19

Reality unhinged.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:00

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

For comrades looking to get involved there may not be any more canvassing until polling day - in Broxtowe we are going to be getting out leaflets to everyone who has promised to vote Labour as any data we get from canvassing won't be updated in time for the vote.

I will be running a committee room on the day itself, pretty excited if only because I can boss people about instead of having to knock on any doors.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:00

Firos: Apr 30, 2007; Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism

Sanitary Naptime posted:

Huw, come on the pod

This was spot on and pass on, if she�s happy for it we can get it retweeted from the pod account?

Yeah absolutely tweet about it.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:02

XMNN: Apr 26, 2008; I am incredibly stupid

lol is tim stanley genuinely trying to play the disaffected labour voter card

not clicking the link to find out

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:03

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

https://twitter.com/MIAfans4comms/status/1203620333498126337?s=19

Going to bed with no dinner ether.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:03

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

happyhippy posted:

Its the kid branded ones that are really really really poo poo. Like Paw Patrol or Transformers.
My manager at work got us one each and you are really paying for the packaging.
With all chocolates removed, they were tiny. More chocolate in a cadbury chocolate button.
These things should be banned with the amount of waste they make.

parents could probably get all the joy with less of the waste if they just made/bought a reusable one and refilled it with random sweeties each year (i think i had one as a kid? can't remember exactly), but then capitalism would have less poo poo to sell us and I imagine the kids would still yell when they saw the expensive christmas thing with the dogs from the tv on and it would be another whole thing to deal with

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:04

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

All those soft socialists reading the telegraph.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:08

Chuff McNothing: Sep 9, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Angepain posted:

parents could probably get all the joy with less of the waste if they just made/bought a reusable one and refilled it with random sweeties each year (i think i had one as a kid? can't remember exactly), but then capitalism would have less poo poo to sell us and I imagine the kids would still yell when they saw the expensive christmas thing with the dogs from the tv on and it would be another whole thing to deal with

as a kid me and my brother had a reusable one. It had a larger pouch on the 24th and one year we got one of these each

mine was a purple and green helter skelter thing and i had that for about 6/7 years before the drips became too small.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:12

XMNN: Apr 26, 2008; I am incredibly stupid

https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/1202239633003810816

rob delaney good, all uk print media bad

e: skimmed that article and its pure brain worms, it claims we need �an alternative political/economic settlement that no party adequately represents� as it�s main thesis but literally the only thing they�ve got against labour is corbyns neutrality on brexit and response to antisemitism, and they contradict their point about no one offering an alternative by praising their manifesto

then they say vote for jess phillips, luciana berger and dan jarvis

XMNN fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Dec 9, 2019

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:12

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Chuff McNothing posted:

mine was a purple and green helter skelter thing and i had that for about 6/7 years before the drips became too small.

Like three tubes stuck together? I had one too.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:13

Chuff McNothing: Sep 9, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

OwlFancier posted:

Like three tubes stuck together? I had one too.

nothing that fancy. single tube where one side up you'd get green drips down the spiral and the other way you'd get purple.

one of those but with two colours

kinda want one now i think about it.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:16

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I had one almost exactly like that but it was three stuck together next to each other. Though they were all blue/purple coloured.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:17

Apraxin: Feb 22, 2006; General-Admiral

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/timothy_stanley/status/1203799722349211648?s=19

Reality unhinged.

Tim Stanley is uh, a little outside the political mainstream, at leas for the UK:

quote:

This is the first election in my life in which I shall vote Conservative. I voted Labour in the last local elections as a sort of last fling at the ballot box. But not this time. This time I�m going to go all the way with Theresa May.

Like a lot of Eurosceptic Labour voters, I was drawn to May by her declaration that Brexit would mean Brexit. But Brexit has hardly come up in this campaign, and while the PM is said to have floundered, Labour has supposedly surged. Nevertheless, for me, and countless voters like me, the issues might have changed but the dynamic hasn�t. I don�t like Labour anymore. I do like Theresa May.

This is the hardest thing to write. You see, I was born Labour and when you�re born Labour you�re supposed to bloody stay that way. Oh, I�ve been moving to the right for a long time, but that�s philosophy not party. Would I actually VOTE Tory? Not until now. The Tories are the party of �them� � the boss, the landlord, the people who have stuffed heads on their wall. To always vote Labour is to reaffirm an historic loyalty to your class � even after you long ago left it. In 2005, I even ran for Parliament for Labour.

But here�s the thing: the party I owed a loyalty to was a historic myth. The party of Clem Attlee, Jennie Lee, Methodism and the Welsh valleys. Life under Blair and Brown couldn�t compete with that romanticism. They did some good things, they made the country a much nicer place. But what did 13 years of Labour leave behind? War, unemployment, debt. From the inside, I witnessed the party dilute its soul until it was really just a front for professional politicians trained to talk like Tony Blair � supported by the cash of public sector trades unionists. A local Labour party meeting is essentially the staff room of a comprehensive reconvened in someone�s front room.

There�s some irony that I should choose to give up on Labour at the moment when it apparently regains its religion. Isn�t Jeremy Corbyn more my kind of man? Yes and no. I�ve grown to like him; he�s a genuine crusader and very English, with his jam and allotments. But I know the Labour Party well enough to remember when he was a joke. Corbyn is not that Thirties Left that I think of when I hear the strains of the Red Flag. He is the Eighties Left, with its peculiar mix of feminism and admiration for Arab nationalism; weird, not like us, quite unproletarian. There�s an old gag that sums him up. How does a social worker fix a lightbulb? They don�t. They form a support group called �coping with darkness�.

Enter Theresa May. She�s not as popular as she was six weeks ago. The Right of the Right is already knocking her for being insufficiently Tory. But don�t they realise that people like me couldn�t consider voting for her if she was?

May�s definitional moment came in 2002 when she told the Tories that they were at risk of being seen as the nasty party. She was correct. Since Thatcher they have appeared obsessed with a particular strand of economic thinking: they would sacrifice the workers on the altar of free markets. Not May. I don�t know if she always thought like this or if Brexit was a wakeup call, but after the referendum she said that Brexit reflected a profound sense that government and economics have not been serving the whole people. As a patriot who loathes to see his nation divided against itself, I get where she�s coming from.

No, she won�t turn out to be another Ted Heath. She will keep taxes low and encourage free enterprise, and rightly so. I�ve become far more conservative on those issues; far, far more conservative. It�s partly to do with my advancing age � paying taxes is a wake-up call � but also a conversion to Catholicism. My faith has taught me that change comes not from waiting for other people to do something but from doing something yourself. Experience has taught me that whenever the state tries to do much, it generally backfires. At 34, my sense of my ability to change the world has shrunk but my sense of responsibility for those close to me has grown. I seek a Toryism that lets the ambitious get on and keeps the vulnerable safe. I want a government that is unashamedly Christian in ethic. May is not the Messiah, but at least she knows who the Messiah really is. Personal salvation comes not from welfare or the NHS or �intersectionalism�, whatever the Hell that is. It comes from faith and good works.

So, for me this election is a chance to take stock, to reflect on how much I�ve changed as I shuffle into middle-age, and how much the parties have changed. Roger Scruton once wrote that Labour was formerly the party that protected people against impersonal forces, rather conservative in its own way. That was the root of its enduring popular appeal.

Well, the positions of the parties have switched. Today it is the Tories who want to protect me against bureaucracy, mass migration, the European Union, terrorism and greedy capitalists. Without reservation, I lend Theresa May my vote.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:20

Apraxin: Feb 22, 2006; General-Admiral

Also I had to go to the Spectator to get that, and my god they have some loving gems of Big Brain Thought at the moment

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:23

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Love too hear about a born again catholic who thinks we need to bring back old traditions, definitely not a whole level crossing full of red flags for insane political ideas.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:24

RockyB: Mar 8, 2007; Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Look at all you heathens who didn't grow up in a good, christian family that used *real* advent calendars from before all this commercialised chocolate bollocks.

Y'know, the ones with replaceable wooden blocks. Or little bible narratives and pictures behind the windows.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:24

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

this doesn't make me feel good esp as it's survation

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203828988579385350?s=20

e: ok feeling better after reading the details lol

quote:

Sample size: 1012
Fieldwork dates: 5th-7th December 2019
Methodology: People aged 18+ living in the UK were interviewed by telephone using a mix of mobile and landline numbers
Voting prompt: Respondents were read out the names of the parties and candidates that are standing in their own constituency

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Dec 9, 2019

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:25

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Gonzo McFee posted:

You can be as antisemitic as you want so long as you support Israel.

Also I hope you don't think I was being a oval office to you with my Sexit posts. I'm just trying to keep my spirits and that with daft wee jokes. My parents are actually old people, you know.

Apology accepted.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:29

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

ThomasPaine posted:

this doesn't make me feel good esp as it's survation

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203828988579385350?s=20

e: ok feeling better after reading the details lol

I legit don't get it. It feels like there's so much more energy and momentum on Labour's side. If it comes out that way I'm going back to Indyref.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:30

Chuff McNothing: Sep 9, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

who answers a random dialing your phone?

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:33

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

I swear tae gently caress

https://twitter.com/DrAlanWager/status/1203832256374157313?s=19

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:33

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Tories don't do energy, they're the collective id of the rotting brains and flesh of the useless old parasites that can do nothing but vote to spite everyone else.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:34

Azza Bamboo: Apr 7, 2018; THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

If tories win I'm abandoning the male gender.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:34

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

The campaign is certainly making me even more misandrist which I didn't think was possible.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:35

XMNN: Apr 26, 2008; I am incredibly stupid

Chuff McNothing posted:

who answers a random dialing your phone?

olds

also I can't believe that the Labour party has lost the bow tie wearing spectator/telegraph columnist demographic, truly abandoning their working class roots

also also I can't believe that Tim Stanley is in his 30s

also also also how many elections can these people do the "as a former natural labour voter I must regretfully cast my ballot for the murdering the poors party" bit for before even their atrophied sense of self-awareness starts to kick in

XMNN fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Dec 9, 2019

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:37

Munin: Nov 14, 2004

Gonzo McFee posted:

I legit don't get it. It feels like there's so much more energy and momentum on Labour's side. If it comes out that way I'm going back to Indyref.

The problem is that the engaged are more energised than ever but the disengaged are being swamped with bullshit through media and advertising.

Frankly, we have to hope that the energy is real and the number of young, poor, and minority voters do indeed break all the turnout models.

The fact that we're not seeing a positive shift in the poll numbers is worrying though.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:37

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

XMNN posted:

olds

also I can't believe that the Labour party has lost the bow tie wearing spectator/telegraph columnist demographic, truly abandoning their working class roots

also also I can't believe that Tim Stanley is in his 30s

Conservatism ages a man.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:38

Doccykins: Feb 21, 2006

That poll still has only 62% of 18-24yo and 59% of 25-34yo 10/10 definitely voting

Turn out the youth and the figures skew Labour

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:38

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

I'm mad too but 1000 isn't a big sample size especially a phone poll

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:38

Chuff McNothing: Sep 9, 2019; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm mad too but 1000 isn't a big sample size

yes it is

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:38

Kraftwerk: Aug 13, 2011; i do not have 10,000 bircoins, please stop asking

You guys are an alright bunch. Quite a few of you have given me some positive reassurances that have boosted my faith in Labour winning at some point in the future if not in this election. I know I can't vote in your elections and I dont even live in the UK but I love watching the action from here. I can only hope we can import Momentum to Canada. I appreciate your friendliness to foreigners taking interest in your politics.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:40

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

Azza Bamboo posted:

If tories win I'm abandoning the male gender.

Best to get in quick while they haven't found a way to outlaw it

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:40

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Kraftwerk posted:

You guys are an alright bunch. Quite a few of you have given me some positive reassurances that have boosted my faith in Labour winning at some point in the future if not in this election. I know I can't vote in your elections and I dont even live in the UK but I love watching the action from here. I can only hope we can import Momentum to Canada. I appreciate your friendliness to foreigners taking interest in your politics.

Momentum literally do workshops for campaigning for foreigners. They've been helping Bernie in America. Be the change, get a socialist firebrand to build around and create the machines that will last after them.

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:43

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# ? May 26, 2024 14:45

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Chuff McNothing posted:

yes it is

no it isn't

# ? Dec 9, 2019 01:43

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