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Tree Bucket posted:Why? I'm trying to puzzle my way through this, and not coming up with anything. Apparently donkeys will refuse to wade through water no matter how shallow it really is, so you have to build a bridge to get them across. So a "donkey bridge" is an extra effort/a longer route you have to take which is yet necessary to reach the goal at all, ie the extra effort of memorising both the mnemonic and what you're actually supposed to learn, but without the mnemonic you would be poo poo out of luck
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Confirmed: Donkeys are vampires
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BrigadierSensible posted:In Korean, it's "hand-phone". So similar to Handy, but without the language purity wank I find it amusing that Schlock Mercenary, a sci-fi webcomic, uses "handbrain" for its portable computers. I guess at some point they stop pretending that being a phone is the primary purpose of the device.
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“Personal computer” out of context sounds like a better name for a smart phone than it does for a desktop machine
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:“Personal computer” out of context sounds like a better name for a smart phone than it does for a desktop machine They're both personal computers since they are single-user devices vis-à-vis computing. That single user being MARK ZUCKERBERG!!!!!!!!!!???!!!!1112222elvatolva
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Milo and POTUS posted:On the other hand their soap was delicious Well, Soap used to be one of the most popular kinds of Czech candy...  
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System Metternich posted:Apparently donkeys will refuse to wade through water no matter how shallow it really is, so you have to build a bridge to get them across. It cracks me up how people come up with this stuff. Donkeys an animal bred for the Express purpose of moving supplies in harsh terrain wont walk across a stream.
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Maybe it has to do with horses being able to stand rain because of their coats, while donkeys absolutely hate getting wet in the rain. https://www.thedonkeysanctuary.org.uk/news/new-research-proves-donkeys-disdain-for-rainy-days Molentik has a new favorite as of 22:44 on Dec 8, 2019 |
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System Metternich posted:Apparently donkeys will refuse to wade through water no matter how shallow it really is, so you have to build a bridge to get them across. So a "donkey bridge" is an extra effort/a longer route you have to take which is yet necessary to reach the goal at all, ie the extra effort of memorising both the mnemonic and what you're actually supposed to learn, but without the mnemonic you would be poo poo out of luck Welp, that one's going in the Vault of Trivia! Donkey Bridge needs to catch on in English too. Way easier to pronounce than mnmnnemmnonic, and as a bonus, donkeys are beautiful creatures.
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Donkeys will go through water. They aren't as susceptible as horses to being influenced by pain and tugging to walk through poo poo they don't want to walk through, especially with a lazy ape or a bunch of its bags on their back. But if convinced they are way better at making their way cleanly and carefully through a ford or any other difficult terrain than a big dumb horse. e: just in general donkeys are the smarter and superior animal to horses in my experience. That's why breeding donkey + even the dumbest horse gives us a smart, cool animal still useful today, that is big enough to carry us and our poo poo around on its back in harsh conditions, while horse + better horse gives us violent shitlords that will run headlong into gunfire and cannot survive if they ever trip. The donkey fights for its rights and knows its limits. The horse is a trash animal fully dedicated to slavery. Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 02:19 on Dec 9, 2019 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Donkeys will go through water. They aren't as susceptible as horses to being influenced by pain and tugging to walk through poo poo they don't want to walk through, especially with a lazy ape or a bunch of its bags on their back. But if convinced they are way better at making their way cleanly and carefully through a ford or any other difficult terrain than a big dumb horse. Or to put it another way, a Donkey won't think of ants and die
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System Metternich posted:A fun language thing is "phono-semantic matching" which is what happens when a new word is introduced to a language from elsewhere and the speakers go "wait this makes no sense, I must’ve misheard" and create a new word following phonetic and/or semantic rules of their language to mask the foreign etymology. A nice example of this is German Hängematte (=hammock) which like its English counterpart comes from the Taíno hamáka. But where the English simply adopted the word into their lexicon with comparatively little change 16th century Germany instead came up with a "hanging mat" as their word A fun thing is Ojibwe. Ho-wah! Shaa... Sheee... Ho! They all have different meanings but I cannot, for the life of me, translate them into English. My high school was about 60% Ojibwe so we all used those sounds "Shee" means "Jesus Christ" "Shaa" means something like a good "burn" or someone getting the joke or maybe not. "Ho-wah!" just means what it sounds like. Kind of like excitement but it depends. "Ho!" just is a generic exclamation. None of those descriptions are quite right, but they're in the neighborhood.
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That’s no exclamation of excitement—that’s my wife!
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mostlygray posted:None of those descriptions are quite right, but they're in the neighborhood. Congatulations! You have discovered "translating literally any language to another language".
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Just imagine trying to translate English exclamations to someone with no concept of what they mean.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Just imagine trying to translate English exclamations to someone with no concept of what they mean. Yeah "gently caress!" is the prime example, along with variations like "gently caress me!", "gently caress off!", "gently caress my rear end and call me Ted Cruz!" etc.
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System Metternich posted:That's a great mnemonic, thanks! Have a fun fact in exchange: In German, mnemonics are called Eselsbrücken or literally "donkey bridges" For some reason the Finnish word "aasinsilta" meaning segue literally translates to "donkey bridge". 
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Crisse de tabarnak yes as a native speaker of English and one other language I can confirm that only English has the nonsense swears. Tabarnak d’ostie ma viarge de calice it’s hard enough to deal with gently caress j’m’en calisse de gently caress I have no idea what any of this means can someone ask Québec to cut that poo poo out
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Gargamel Gibson posted:For some reason the Finnish word "aasinsilta" meaning segue literally translates to " They all come from the same Latin root. Why they mean different things in different cultures is the part no-one really knows. e: The current Finnish meaning is easy to explain: it's a bridge an rear end takes to get from one subject to another.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Crisse de tabarnak yes as a native speaker of English and one other language I can confirm that only English has the nonsense swears. Tabarnak d’ostie ma viarge de calice it’s hard enough to deal with gently caress j’m’en calisse de gently caress I have no idea what any of this means can someone ask Québec to cut that poo poo out I mean, none of those are swears on the level of gently caress perse. They are blasphemes. All of them based on various catholic rituals or objects
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Tashilicious posted:I mean, none of those are swears on the level of gently caress perse. What exactly do you think swear means?
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Jerry Cotton posted:What exactly do you think swear means? Blasphemes are specifically religious. Swears can be sexual scatological racial etc Blasphemes are a subset of swear words
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Tashilicious posted:Blasphemes are specifically religious. Swears can be sexual scatological racial etc Actually, they're synonyms, HTH, OP 
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Crisse de tabarnak yes as a native speaker of English and one other language I can confirm that only English has the nonsense swears. Tabarnak d’ostie ma viarge de calice it’s hard enough to deal with gently caress j’m’en calisse de gently caress I have no idea what any of this means can someone ask Québec to cut that poo poo out Va donc chier crisse de sale tbnk
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I just want to move to Finland so I can live my dream of being a lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas 
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Cage Kicker posted:I just want to move to Finland so I can live my dream of being a lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas Same, but Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsuniformherstellerfirmenvorsitzendenleibwächterbrillenherstellergspusi in Austria
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stab posted:Va donc chier crisse de sale tbnk jte comprends pas 
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System Metternich posted:Same, but Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsuniformherstellerfirmenvorsitzendenleibwächterbrillenherstellergspusi in Austria Gesundheit. I'd make a Schönbrunner Deutsch joke here, but I can't understand but every other word.
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Cage Kicker posted:I just want to move to Finland so I can live my dream of being a lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas Maybe you could use a minoritetsladningsbærerdiffusjonskoeffisientmålingsapparatur.
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Alhazred posted:Maybe you could use a minoritetsladningsbærerdiffusjonskoeffisientmålingsapparatur. kamelåså ?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:kamelåså ? Fun fact about the norwegian language: As long as it makes meaning there's no limit to how many words you can put together. Also, kamelåså is danish.
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Alhazred posted:Fun fact about the norwegian language: As long as it makes meaning there's no limit to how many words you can put together. Same with german numbers, if I'm not mistaken In polish nouns for numbers are written separate - 999 = dziewięćset dziewięćdziesiąt dziewięć, although adjectives will be written together - dziewięćsetdziewięćdziesiętnodziewiąty. As such there's no limit to word length
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So is there a number that's dumber than four-twenties-ten-nine, a.k.a. French for 99? (Quatre-vingt dix-neuf).
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:So is there a number that's dumber than four-twenties-ten-nine, a.k.a. French for 99? (Quatre-vingt dix-neuf). 
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:So is there a number that's dumber than four-twenties-ten-nine, a.k.a. French for 99? (Quatre-vingt dix-neuf). Yes. Danish has numbers such as enoghalvfjerds Literally: One-and-half-fourth. It's 71. It should be read as 1 and halfway-to-the-fourth-20. The tens system in Danish is basically ten, twenty, thirty, forty, half-third, third, half-fourth, fourth, half-fifth, one hundred.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Donkeys will go through water. They aren't as susceptible as horses to being influenced by pain and tugging to walk through poo poo they don't want to walk through, especially with a lazy ape or a bunch of its bags on their back. But if convinced they are way better at making their way cleanly and carefully through a ford or any other difficult terrain than a big dumb horse. Donkeys are the superior equine on every conceivable level and imo their reputation for stubbornness comes entirely from being too smart to put up with our poo poo and not any natural cowardice; as evidenced by the fact that they're willing and able to kick foxes, dogs, coyotes, mountain lions and wolves to death at the slightest provocation, and make excellent guard animals.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Yes. bad
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Carbon dioxide posted:Yes. What I find most interesting about this is that the concept of counting by twenties isn't a uniquely French thing and the Danes even did it more by refusing to come up with unique names for 50 and 60 as well as the 70/80/90 that French skipped. Out of curiosity, how do 15/16/17/18/19 work in Danish? I feel like it has to be significant that French counting stops coming up with unique names at both 17 (dix sept = "ten seven") and 70 (soixante dix = "sixty ten").
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French also does have septante, huitante, and nonante, they're just used mainly by *shudders* the walloons and the swiss
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German words like einundzwanzig (twenty-one) aren't that bad but still just... odd. Why does the "one" come first? 
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