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Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

hahahaha

"If I oppose impeachment I might end up on the next phone record subpoena!"

they're so upset about getting caught doing crimes

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refleks
Nov 21, 2006



HIS STAFF. THEY'RE DOING HIS JOB.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
Mueller didn't convince anyone, except everyone involved in the Papadopoulos, Manafort, Gates, Flynn, IRA, Pinedo, van der Zwaan, Kilimnik, 12 GRU officer, Cohen, and Stone indictments, guilty pleas, and verdicts.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



is this a filibuster

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



this minority hearing thing is total bullshit by the way, i can drag up the link but it's flat out wrong and they're lying about the rule

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

refleks posted:

Nah, he's testifying, so they need someone else to question him...

I never know when people are joking because I'm pretty bad at watching impeachments, so now I'm just confused and sad

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Subpoenas for personal vendettas?
Kinda like an investigation into a political rival?

Sir Thats Gross
May 27, 2006
What’s Biggs up to today? I’m not sure I’ve heard what he’s trying to submit

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Sir Thats Gross posted:

What’s Biggs up to today? I’m not sure I’ve heard what he’s trying to submit

they have some bullshit where they're entitled to a "minority hearing day" by rule where the majority isn't allowed to say which witnesses come

but it's not true, at all, no rule requires it, which we know because there would always be minority hearing days on every single committee for everything that matters if that were true

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1204043673895424000

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
There's something sublime about watching Republicans mewling about imagined microscopic parliamentary procedure violations in defence of Donald loving Trump.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Can you kick somebody out of a hearing?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Who the gently caress is this snl looking motherfucker?

Sir Thats Gross
May 27, 2006
Well, that was exciting.

Oh boy, here we go with a story of a child asking the hard questions

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



HootTheOwl posted:

Who the gently caress is this snl looking motherfucker?

Which one of them? Its all of them

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



as a reminder, this hearing goes

30 minutes each for counsel for Judiciary, Barry Berke and Steve Castor

then

60 minutes each for counsel for HPSCI, Adam Goldman and Steve Castor

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


eke out posted:

this minority hearing thing is total bullshit by the way, i can drag up the link but it's flat out wrong and they're lying about the rule
I’ve never heard of a minority hearing happening. To what are they referring?

Wylie
Jun 27, 2005

Ever to conquer, never to yield.


HootTheOwl posted:

Who the gently caress is this snl looking motherfucker?

My God, Tom Arnold is playing this guy in real time

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

refleks posted:

Which one of them? Its all of them

The guy taking right now. He looks and sounds like a Chris Farley character.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

eke out posted:

as a reminder, this hearing goes

30 minutes each for counsel for Judiciary, Barry Berke and Steve Castor

then

60 minutes each for counsel for HPSCI, Adam Goldman and Steve Castor
...periodically interrupted by Collins, Jordan, and Gaetz soiling their nappies in the most public manner they can manage.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Wylie posted:

My God, Tom Arnold is playing this guy in real time

Actually this

refleks
Nov 21, 2006



Josh Lyman posted:

I’ve never heard of a minority hearing happening. To what are they referring?

Majority on a committee can veto any witnesses called by the minority. Minority hearings is something the minority can ask for where they can call whoever they want without objection. Its never really used...

https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/RS22637.html

It would have needed to be agreed upon when they set up the rules for the hearings in the beginning. Not in the middle of it like now

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Josh Lyman posted:

I’ve never heard of a minority hearing happening. To what are they referring?

this is what i'm saying, it's literally bullshit, someone misread an opinion

https://twitter.com/NatlSecCnslrs/status/1202607164616896512

there's more in the thread but basically the thing they claim it lets them do is total bullshit, if they weren't allowed to call witnesses at all (and they were) there's a situation where they might be entitled to force the majority to let them call some, but the majority would still decide who is allowed (e.g.: no hunter biden, no whistleblower) and the majority would be able to call more witnesses again if it wanted

eke out fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Dec 9, 2019

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



we haven't heard from Berke before in these hearings, his job has been to argue in the courts of appeal about McGahn/etc - he's doing a pretty good job with the beginning of the closing

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
big fan of 'punish this witness who said the president did something bad'

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

it's a rule that you cannot say negative things about daddy

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

hahahah I love it

ummel
Jun 17, 2002

<3 Lowtax

Fun Shoe
Nadler just tossing that napkin motion was pretty lol.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible
Throwing a tantrum before your witness gets to speak doesn't seem wise - especially when Castor has been shaky every time.

Dzurlord
Nov 5, 2011
oh no we can't talk about the things we are calling this witness to talk about warglebargle gently caress this

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



*that scene from liar liar where he yells BECAUSE IT'S DEVASTATING TO MY CASE!*

Wylie
Jun 27, 2005

Ever to conquer, never to yield.


So they're actually doing "You can't say these terrible things about the President, not because they're false, but because they're terribly damaging"? Bold move.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



time for the least charismatic lawyer on staff to talk

Sanskrit Scat
Aug 11, 2007


BALONEY

haha its castor time friends

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

"...want to IMPEACH the..." *turns page, finds place* "...president."

iSimian
Jan 19, 2008

Well, there's your problem!

Sanskrit Scat posted:

BALONEY

haha its castor time friends

I call Malarkey on his Balony, Your honor.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

"...want to IMPEACH the..." *turns page, finds place* "...president."
Tlaib said motherfucker and Castor, who looks like the guy who plays Stephen Miller in the straight-to-video sequels, is dwelling on the pause to imply displeasure at her lack of decorum.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
I drove to the doctor and missed Tom Arnold, did I miss anything between that and Castor refusing to proofread his speech?

Sanskrit Scat
Aug 11, 2007


iSimian posted:

I call Malarkey on his Balony, Your honor.

Malarkey, sustained.

The counsel now has 30 minutes of wincing and holding in his fecal matter.

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eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Sanskrit Scat posted:

Malarkey, sustained.

The counsel now has 30 minutes of wincing and holding in his fecal matter.

the funny thing is they didn't get a second attorney for the next round, so this same sad motherfucker is going to have to fill 60 minutes after he does this 30

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